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I see my way unfortunate poll got just closed. I sense the reasons behind. Let me try to move to a thread a bit more supportive for studios and users in order to win back some of that lost goodwill and trust.

What impressed me most in my very first days of porn shopping at LP was their way to treat their customers. Countrary to other suppliers users were made part of a responsible process of making this difficult biz sustainable. It was an incredible feeling!
If me as a fan was asking for much more demanding acts as most suppliers would offer, LP said, ok we can shoot it, but we'll pass that additional investment to you as a user. It was done in a fair and transparent way, not revealing inside fee infos not of users concern, but pointing to the fact that of course wet/DAP/TAP etc have higher fees than other sex and porn fetish acts & of course girls flown in from USA or Brasil mean higher investment and that has to be passed on to me as an end user.
I really liked this because it meant shared responsibility - as opposed to demands of hard, fast, deep and please almost for free!

But to get a bit further let us try to get back more to that gonzo/GIO/SOS studio adhered investment shared with users approach of 5-8 years ago. Because times are indeed not easy for porn content creators in Europe and fans can make it easier for providers if they understand what and why.

Just 1 example:
If a simple flight from St. Petersburg to Prague has now to be re-routed via Istanbul, this creates of course much higher travel costs. Not talking about travel time for the girl of 8-10 times more!
A reasonably fast option with Turkish Airlines lets say for August is now available for just over 800euro / over 850$. While before the same flight was directly available for around 200euro. Thus price increased by 400%!

To spice things a bit up - because its still a porn forum - let me post 1 of 186 possible Ukrainian import options (not working for free ofc):
This film: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/136419 (GIO2119)


Now you can say easily: Studio has to pay, its not my business! Or you can adhere to unmentioned responsible porn user ethics and say: Ofc if I want Russian girls to perform in Prague I am ready to participate in that higher investment.

Its up to us users - but also up to studios to explain price rises to us.


Btw, some of this was reflected already in those 2 closed threads:
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=41089&hilit=ticket+love (5days, 191 posts)
and
viewtopic.phpf=96&t=41496&p=637563&hilit=ticket+love#p637563 (30days, 243 posts)

A sex act fee observation: I have the impression that after April 11th PB changes AGO (Angelo Godshack Original) studio is passing on individual 1on1 anal fees of the 5 girls shot in this format since 1 : 1 fairly to users. Before AGO had rather applied a 1on1 flat rate of 4,5/5tkt with 1-2 exceptions.

Only wet/dry 1on1 is todays Megan Venturi. The wet difference of 0,09tkt rather doenst reflect the additional payment for wet. Or that fee difference is really marginal. However small wet/dry differences to none at all seems to be PB policy promoting wet versions.
I got convinced by that small price difference 1y back or so already, too!

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Studio link here: https://pornbox.com/application/studio/251 (use fetish option 1on1, order according date)

At some point you have to stop. It’s not gonna change, so either you go with it and pay a lot more, or you don’t. There is no interest or incentive to ‘gain back goodwill or trust’, at least not that I have seen.

Like Giorgio said, it’s all about economics. Either you accept what the business does and keep buying, or you don’t accept it and look elsewhere. That’s really all that’s to it. I made my decision, I suggest you make yours.

You can explain better in short words about this investment... you veteran members do not know if I understood correctly helped with a monetary support to the studios to produce? And if so how did it work? Always if I understood correctly otherwise explain this topic better please in a very detailed way and that everyone can understand better

In my opinion xxx should organize a big meeting in person with all the heads of the studios working in Prague, to expose problems and work solutions beneficial for everyone, especially show the statistics on how many people buy in tiket and how many buy in dollars etcc... Being able to put a Strict regulation to be respected to make free the sharing between the studios of the Performers and all the actresses, so as to be able to offer more advantageous scenes to the studios, more work for the artists and also more variety of image, is video with more quality different for all fans...Because it is in the interest of all, we work for the same platform and we use the same artists, like a bigs Company we have to make a real bissnes group...believe me is better and intelligent make live meeting

I believe it will have to be through Brand/Studio incentives and improvement with better value, they seem to have their hands tied as far as Pornbox ticket exchange value and just merely lowering ticket price if it doesn't make sense, it won't work as they have to make some profits and sustainable business.

YumYum74 wrote:There is no interest or incentive to ‘gain back goodwill or trust’, at least not that I have seen.

Wrong here, I see a lot of trials to get back our goodwill and trust.
Just see how many directors started to talk with us and to take your concerns seriously. Also xxx did the same. Bit of course we are all of different linguistic backgrounds and different communicators.
And as I already said elsewhere PB maybe should have a 50% pro PR agent.

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YumYum74 wrote:Like Giorgio said, it’s all about economics.

Yes, agreed, economics is also about PR and/or just the will to explain context to users/clients/customers/fans. xxx does this very well with tech issues, btw.

But more important: I opened this tread mainly to share examples of why the porn scene price has/had to rise? See OP travel investment example.
Its not the same discussion again I hope. Please everybody keep OP in mind!

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dap-addict wrote:

YumYum74 wrote:There is no interest or incentive to ‘gain back goodwill or trust’, at least not that I have seen.

Wrong here, I see a lot of trials to get back our goodwill and trust.
Just see how many directors started to talk with us and to take your concerns seriously. Also xxx did the same. Bit of course we are all of different linguistic backgrounds and different communicators.
And as I already said elsewhere PB maybe should have a 50% pro PR agent.

Absolutely guys I speak for the ours group, fur us you fans are real important and we read all your opinion for the scene, And we don't want loose any fan on PB for this we would like to make a meeting with all studios in Prague and after explain to the other studios out Prague the all plans

This is what this thread is about:

dap-addict wrote:What impressed me most in my very first days of porn shopping at LP was their way to treat their customers. Countrary to other suppliers users were made part of a responsible process of making this difficult biz sustainable. It was an incredible feeling!
If me as a fan was asking for much more demanding acts as most suppliers would offer, LP said, ok we can shoot it, but we'll pass that additional investment to you as a user. It was done in a fair and transparent way...

To PAF: I can try to explain again later, yep. But thread is about what you explained in other threads already as one of the few. You have to invest xy and you need this money played in of course after you sold the scene.
For example, IF travel cost has risen by 400% than as a studio you need to calculate that and we as users need to be prepared to pay 0,2 or 0,5TKT more for the girl.

Finally:
After 5 weeks I re-charged my ticketswith 120tkt option again tonight and I spend already 70tkts within 1 hour. I decided which biz I want to support - and I am happy if I can support a fair biz!

dap-addict wrote:This is what this thread is about:

dap-addict wrote:What impressed me most in my very first days of porn shopping at LP was their way to treat their customers. Countrary to other suppliers users were made part of a responsible process of making this difficult biz sustainable. It was an incredible feeling!
If me as a fan was asking for much more demanding acts as most suppliers would offer, LP said, ok we can shoot it, but we'll pass that additional investment to you as a user. It was done in a fair and transparent way...

To PAF: I can try to explain again later, yep. But thread is about what you explained in other threads already as one of the few. You have to invest xy and you need this money played in of course after you sold the scene.
For example, IF travel cost has risen by 400% than as a studio you need to calculate that and we as users need to be prepared to pay 0,2 or 0,5TKT more for the girl.

Finally:
After 5 weeks I re-charged my ticketswith 120tkt option again tonight and I spend already 70tkts within 1 hour. I decided which biz I want to support - and I am happy if I can support a fair biz!

Great you made the wise move... support what makes you happy and find smart solutions, and I hope that other studios and xxx will also consider the idea of having a business and organizational meeting

PAF, you just remind me I promised to buy that Miriam More DAP once I re-charged. I did now and I like that styling of her - and the action ofc - so much!
I didnt wanna go below 50tkts, but I have to make this exception.

However, I do hope you payed her a good wetDAP rate you fairly transferred to our TKT price.

dap-addict wrote:This is what this thread is about:

dap-addict wrote:What impressed me most in my very first days of porn shopping at LP was their way to treat their customers. Countrary to other suppliers users were made part of a responsible process of making this difficult biz sustainable. It was an incredible feeling!
If me as a fan was asking for much more demanding acts as most suppliers would offer, LP said, ok we can shoot it, but we'll pass that additional investment to you as a user. It was done in a fair and transparent way...

To PAF: I can try to explain again later, yep. But thread is about what you explained in other threads already as one of the few. You have to invest xy and you need this money played in of course after you sold the scene.
For example, IF travel cost has risen by 400% than as a studio you need to calculate that and we as users need to be prepared to pay 0,2 or 0,5TKT more for the girl.

Finally:
After 5 weeks I re-charged my ticketswith 120tkt option again tonight and I spend already 70tkts within 1 hour. I decided which biz I want to support - and I am happy if I can support a fair biz!

See what I meant by no point, I got tempted to reply again even though I said I wouldn't anymore. I've got no issue with PAF, they've been forthcoming in their replies. I even have not that many issues with the crazy prices (I can and will just choose not to buy that).

But calling it transparent and fair was maybe the case when you first started shopping here. Letting me buy 250 tickets and then days later without warning (if there had been a warning I could have waited to buy for a while) change the system and cutting the value of those tickets by 35% is anything but transparent or fair. An explanation (of sorts) after I complained is nice and all but it didn't and doesn't solve my complaint. I lost 35% of the value and got nothing in return. Yes, really fair.

YumYum74 wrote:

dap-addict wrote:This is what this thread is about:

dap-addict wrote:What impressed me most in my very first days of porn shopping at LP was their way to treat their customers. Countrary to other suppliers users were made part of a responsible process of making this difficult biz sustainable. It was an incredible feeling!
If me as a fan was asking for much more demanding acts as most suppliers would offer, LP said, ok we can shoot it, but we'll pass that additional investment to you as a user. It was done in a fair and transparent way...

To PAF: I can try to explain again later, yep. But thread is about what you explained in other threads already as one of the few. You have to invest xy and you need this money played in of course after you sold the scene.
For example, IF travel cost has risen by 400% than as a studio you need to calculate that and we as users need to be prepared to pay 0,2 or 0,5TKT more for the girl.

Finally:
After 5 weeks I re-charged my ticketswith 120tkt option again tonight and I spend already 70tkts within 1 hour. I decided which biz I want to support - and I am happy if I can support a fair biz!

See what I meant by no point, I got tempted to reply again even though I said I wouldn't anymore. I've got no issue with PAF, they've been forthcoming in their replies. I even have not that many issues with the crazy prices (I can and will just choose not to buy that).

But calling it transparent and fair was maybe the case when you first started shopping here. Letting me buy 250 tickets and then days later without warning (if there had been a warning I could have waited to buy for a while) change the system and cutting the value of those tickets by 35% is anything but transparent or fair. An explanation (of sorts) after I complained is nice and all but it didn't and doesn't solve my complaint. I lost 35% of the value and got nothing in return. Yes, really fair.

Absolutely everyone is free to decide where it is right to spend... but in my opinion 7.33 tiket or $ 8.50 does not seem to me such an absurd price as you say, we every month invest in equipment You don't even imagine the problems The problems we face and how many people in this industry try to sabotage the our studio and the our jobs for this I want a meeting... There are too many things that it is better that you fans do not have to know so it is better that we meet each other and find a solution because me and other people have come to a limit of endurance And above all, the entrepreneur who collaborates with us is also would to know explanations and some solutions about more things...

PAFstudio wrote:Absolutely everyone is free to decide where it is right to spend... but in my opinion 7.33 tiket or $ 8.50 does not seem to me such an absurd price as you say, we every month invest in equipment

Yes, I agree with you but that was not my problem.

I will try to explain it to you. I bought a ticket package of 250 tickets with money. Normally with that I could buy 30 scenes (example). But when they changed the system I could suddenly only buy 20 scenes with that same package.
If I did not have a ticket package, and if they had warned us, I could have waited for a while and then I would have been free to decide what I wanted to do. But now they first let me buy the package (and letting me think I could buy 30 scenes) and then they suddenly basically said: surprise, from now on only 20 scenes for this package. So buying power that I already paid for, was taken away.

YumYum74 wrote:

PAFstudio wrote:Absolutely everyone is free to decide where it is right to spend... but in my opinion 7.33 tiket or $ 8.50 does not seem to me such an absurd price as you say, we every month invest in equipment

Yes, I agree with you but that was not my problem.

I will try to explain it to you. I bought a ticket package of 250 tickets with money. Normally with that I could buy 30 scenes (example). But when they changed the system I could suddenly only buy 20 scenes with that same package.
If I did not have a ticket package, and if they had warned us, I could have waited for a while and then I would have been free to decide what I wanted to do. But now they first let me buy the package (and letting me think I could buy 30 scenes) and then they suddenly basically said: surprise, from now on only 20 scenes for this package. So buying power that I already paid for, was taken away.

In fact, in the meeting We would also like to find a solution to help you fans to have the right help...The real problem is not the war, is the organisation for exchange the top sellers...I collaborate in other businesses in Italy and I have never seen a problem so stupid like this believe me...ok I don't talk good English but we are not stupid, and every problem have limits, and is better resolve before all problems in smart things and find good solutions with brain not with the ass,Because some do not understand that doing this stupid actions puts also problems and damage the immage on PB and this is not good for the Business

YumYum74 wrote:

dap-addict wrote:This is what this thread is about:

dap-addict wrote:What impressed me most in my very first days of porn shopping at LP was their way to treat their customers. Countrary to other suppliers users were made part of a responsible process of making this difficult biz sustainable. It was an incredible feeling!
If me as a fan was asking for much more demanding acts as most suppliers would offer, LP said, ok we can shoot it, but we'll pass that additional investment to you as a user. It was done in a fair and transparent way...

To PAF: I can try to explain again later, yep. But thread is about what you explained in other threads already as one of the few. You have to invest xy and you need this money played in of course after you sold the scene.
For example, IF travel cost has risen by 400% than as a studio you need to calculate that and we as users need to be prepared to pay 0,2 or 0,5TKT more for the girl.

Finally:
After 5 weeks I re-charged my ticketswith 120tkt option again tonight and I spend already 70tkts within 1 hour. I decided which biz I want to support - and I am happy if I can support a fair biz!

See what I meant by no point, I got tempted to reply again even though I said I wouldn't anymore. I've got no issue with PAF, they've been forthcoming in their replies. I even have not that many issues with the crazy prices (I can and will just choose not to buy that).

But calling it transparent and fair was maybe the case when you first started shopping here. Letting me buy 250 tickets and then days later without warning (if there had been a warning I could have waited to buy for a while) change the system and cutting the value of those tickets by 35% is anything but transparent or fair. An explanation (of sorts) after I complained is nice and all but it didn't and doesn't solve my complaint. I lost 35% of the value and got nothing in return. Yes, really fair.

I think you so far did not understand the point of all of this.
Let me explain you in a different way.

The fact that the conversion rate is changed, is totally irrelevant, it did not change your purchase power.
What changed your purchase power is/are the studio/s that did not revise the prices accordingly (to avoid a huge increase of the price in tkt).

So, the question maybe is: why some studio did not revise the prices to avoid a huge increase in the price in tkt?

The thing that many studies do not understand but fortunately only two or three have understood and approved our thinking, is that we are not studying the competition but they are the other platforms where porn sites are sold and above all the free ones, like all organizations too. the ugliest have alliances to generate more profits and win-win rules for everyone to have professional respect and avoid riots or acts of rebellion of any kind, because every personal problem is reflected only against PB and you fans suffer the consequence ... With the method we have in mind there will no longer be a problem for anyone and it will be beneficial for everyone, work is business first of all personal problems must be taken out of work, it will also be beneficial for large studies because in any case more will be produced and the more you will have a gain, however, with the solution of no problem but of help and support between the studies ... we try to make the brain work please, money and happiness they arrive for everyone immediately ... We also have several entrepreneurs who would like to invest and help all the studies if they need a budget but for the moment they are afraid of losing money because there are too many things to fix ... a well-structured meeting is needed, because brings us all in one interest if you think about it

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
I think you so far did not understand the point of all of this.
Let me explain you in a different way.

The fact that the conversion rate is changed, is totally irrelevant, it did not change your purchase power.
What changed your purchase power is/are the studio/s that did not revise the prices accordingly (to avoid a huge increase of the price in tkt).

So, the question maybe is: why some studio did not revise the prices to avoid a huge increase in the price in tkt?

Maybe I didn’t, and it doesn’t have to do with the conversion. But fact remains that my purchase power DID change after my purchase. And that is the one and only thing that bothers me, meaning that I categorically disagree with dap-addict about AV or studio fairness. I buy my tickets at AV and spend them at the studios.
If there was fairness, my problem would be addressed and an attempt would be made to find a solution. THAT would be fairness, at least to a (up to that point) loyal customer.

Do you understand why I feel like someone (whether it’s AV, the studios or whoever) screwed me over?

YumYum74 wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
I think you so far did not understand the point of all of this.
Let me explain you in a different way.

The fact that the conversion rate is changed, is totally irrelevant, it did not change your purchase power.
What changed your purchase power is/are the studio/s that did not revise the prices accordingly (to avoid a huge increase of the price in tkt).

So, the question maybe is: why some studio did not revise the prices to avoid a huge increase in the price in tkt?

Maybe I didn’t, and it doesn’t have to do with the conversion. But fact remains that my purchase power DID change after my purchase. And that is the one and only thing that bothers me, meaning that I categorically disagree with dap-addict about AV or studio fairness. I buy my tickets at AV and spend them at the studios.
If there was fairness, my problem would be addressed and an attempt would be made to find a solution. THAT would be fairness, at least to a (up to that point) loyal customer.

Do you understand why I feel like someone (whether it’s AV, the studios or whoever) screwed me over?

Friend believe me we want to help you, because even we before becoming actors and actresses we were for years buyers of porn and we have passion for this reading discomfort makes us sad...but the all real problem is not for the tiket I had explained to much for let you understand, for this reason the other studios for support meeting have to change minds and make meeting for find good business solutions...push for this talk forever about tiket price don't have sens believe me, but the stupid problems out of the PB is the real problem

YumYum74 wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
I think you so far did not understand the point of all of this.
Let me explain you in a different way.

The fact that the conversion rate is changed, is totally irrelevant, it did not change your purchase power.
What changed your purchase power is/are the studio/s that did not revise the prices accordingly (to avoid a huge increase of the price in tkt).

So, the question maybe is: why some studio did not revise the prices to avoid a huge increase in the price in tkt?

Maybe I didn’t, and it doesn’t have to do with the conversion. But fact remains that my purchase power DID change after my purchase. And that is the one and only thing that bothers me, meaning that I categorically disagree with dap-addict about AV or studio fairness. I buy my tickets at AV and spend them at the studios.
If there was fairness, my problem would be addressed and an attempt would be made to find a solution. THAT would be fairness, at least to a (up to that point) loyal customer.

Do you understand why I feel like someone (whether it’s AV, the studios or whoever) screwed me over?

I want to ask you a question ... is it more advantageous for you if all the studios start to collaborate by offering you many products with your favorite models in different styles and advantageous prices? Or do you prefer to get angry because the studios can't put the tikets at a cheaper price because they don't make money and if you don't turn the top models every now and then you don't have a big profit to help them invest and balance everything? I'm sorry to say friend but some people are more important to make money even at the cost of sabotaging other studios and they do not accept the presence of other studios on this site ... so if you fans really want to have a change, push to create a working alliance between everyone us ... you can talk about tiket until you retire believe me it's an endless conversation and you will never understand anything, adapting is one thing to be teased is another thing ... all studios are essential to give quality to PB io I appreciate everyone's work I don't see competition and we could do better things if we collaborate

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PAFstudio wrote:

YumYum74 wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
I think you so far did not understand the point of all of this.
Let me explain you in a different way.

The fact that the conversion rate is changed, is totally irrelevant, it did not change your purchase power.
What changed your purchase power is/are the studio/s that did not revise the prices accordingly (to avoid a huge increase of the price in tkt).

So, the question maybe is: why some studio did not revise the prices to avoid a huge increase in the price in tkt?

Maybe I didn’t, and it doesn’t have to do with the conversion. But fact remains that my purchase power DID change after my purchase. And that is the one and only thing that bothers me, meaning that I categorically disagree with dap-addict about AV or studio fairness. I buy my tickets at AV and spend them at the studios.
If there was fairness, my problem would be addressed and an attempt would be made to find a solution. THAT would be fairness, at least to a (up to that point) loyal customer.

Do you understand why I feel like someone (whether it’s AV, the studios or whoever) screwed me over?

I want to ask you a question ... is it more advantageous for you if all the studios start to collaborate by offering you many products with your favorite models in different styles and advantageous prices? Or do you prefer to get angry because the studios can't put the tikets at a cheaper price because they don't make money and if you don't turn the top models every now and then you don't have a big profit to help them invest and balance everything? I'm sorry to say friend but some people are more important to make money even at the cost of sabotaging other studios and they do not accept the presence of other studios on this site ... so if you fans really want to have a change, push to create a working alliance between everyone us ... you can talk about tiket until you retire believe me it's an endless conversation and you will never understand anything, adapting is one thing to be teased is another thing ... all studios are essential to give quality to PB io I appreciate everyone's work I don't see competition and we could do better things if we collaborate

However no one has answered my question and above all no one is denying what I say...

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YumYum74 wrote:But fact remains that my purchase power DID change after my purchase. And that is the one and only thing that bothers me, meaning that I categorically disagree with dap-addict about AV or studio fairness. I buy my tickets at AV and spend them at the studios.
If there was fairness, my problem would be addressed and an attempt would be made to find a solution. THAT would be fairness, at least to a (up to that point) loyal customer.

Yum, I think fairness is such a broad word, maybe I should rephrase subject title. Anyway, of course you have all the right to feel screwed over, but not by AVLP studios, but pornbox selling you the tickets and than suddenly devaluating their buying power.
Me, on contrary I am talking about AVLP studios here. Because a lot of that discontent of lately is hitting the studios rather than the platform selling their product. And in my previous, a bit unfortunate and badly timed poll I asked about that fairness. And yes, I defined fairness by communication and/or action by sustainable tkt price reductions. Communication alone could win one of my votes there.
The action you are missing would have be done by PB and not the studios.


And generally about that AVLP roundtable idea: Good idea basically, but there should sit studios which bring in each new girls they scout themselves, so that all AVLP studios could share something. We have such a situation by even small studios like LVP or Andy Casanova, thats a workable way I can imagine. This said I am no studio.

dap-addict wrote:fairness is such a broad word

Btw, another shade of fairness: I thus have re-charged my tickets with the 120tkt reload option given in the 90day-sunscription plan, as I have said above. I just checked, I spent 90tkt already - 70 during 1h, than around 20 more during next 10h - and I distributed them pretty fair amongst studios all hit by growing costs: I bought 10 DAPs, 1 each by gonzo, PAF, AGO, N&F and NRX and 2 each by GIO and NTP. The latter I choose for their nice-price-policy, which again is maybe easier because shooting DAPs in Medellin is possible at lower fees and fixed costs than in Prague. At least logic tells me so.
Ofc I also took into consideration my own needs, because I have to be fair to myself, too!

dap-addict wrote:Yum, I think fairness is such a broad word, maybe I should rephrase subject title. Anyway, of course you have all the right to feel screwed over, but not by AVLP studios, but pornbox selling you the tickets and than suddenly devaluating their buying power.

That’s exactly what I said initially dap-addict, and then Giorgio said the purchasing power was lost because the studios didn’t adjust their prices to the new conversion rate. So that suggests I should blame the studios? See the contradiction? Or maybe I’m just the dumbest person in the world.

YumYum74 wrote:

dap-addict wrote:Yum, I think fairness is such a broad word, maybe I should rephrase subject title. Anyway, of course you have all the right to feel screwed over, but not by AVLP studios, but pornbox selling you the tickets and than suddenly devaluating their buying power.

That’s exactly what I said initially dap-addict, and then Giorgio said the purchasing power was lost because the studios didn’t adjust their prices to the new conversion rate. So that suggests I should blame the studios? See the contradiction? Or maybe I’m just the dumbest person in the world.

Why should you blame the studios for asking more money for their content?
You are not forced to buy anything for christ sake

And some studio decreased the price in USD to get you the same price in tkt.

So, I do not believe you are dumb, but a little blind because you are enraged.

1 - Conversion rate change, for accuracy -
2 - Studio should decrease the price to match accuracy

consequences

Some did it - nothing change for you
some did it partially - something changed for you
some did not do it - a lot change for you

In all the cases, you are not forced to buy anything.

The End
No one did anything bad for fuck sake to anyone

Now you ask me: : "Giorgio why you increase your price before?"
My answer: "because I dont want to change the price in USD, but I considered the price in tkt too low from last year. So the change on conversion just solved my dilemma as I needed to increase the prices because of increasing of cost"

EDIT

Now you ask me: : "Giorgio why didnt you increase your price before?"
My answer: "because I didnt want to change the price in USD, but I considered the price in tkt too low from last year. So the change on conversion just solved my dilemma as I needed to increase the prices because of increasing of cost"

YumYum74 wrote:See the contradiction? Or maybe I’m just the dumbest person in the world.

Well this is actually something I wondered often in that last 5 weeks in all these discussions!
But now I try to get a grip and one way for sure is to ID real price rises as with those air tickets and see who is passing these extra investments on to end users and how this is done. Its ofc not a linear process but ticket devaluation lead to less scene items sold, but at a higher price and with a higher turnout. All studios are currently learning to balance this, you can see that also with still erratic prices with some studios.

I asked and I got a reply. Done with this.

YumYum74 wrote:I asked and I got a reply. Done with this.

Actually one last thing. I apologize if I come across as rude, angry and unreasonable. I'm at a shitty time in my life, and am acting out sometimes, and I could have been more tactful in some instances for sure.

That said, it is clear that we will never see eye to eye on this, so there's no point in me bringing it up again. I will have to take the loss.

YumYum74 wrote:I asked and I got a reply.

Did you try to ask directly, i.e not in forum? Via support for instance?
Because in your special case I wouldn't exclude this being addressed actually. There sure were not 100s of clients like you who bought a 250TKT batch just 1-2 days before the ticket devaluation.

No, because it was clear pretty much from the beginning that nothing would be done. So I had no choice but to spend them (paid for them already, what else was I gonna do?). I am just gonna have to be VERY careful and selective on spending on this site in order not to get burnt like this again. End of story.

The other similar topic has been closed and there were some preoccupying posts from Oscar Batty about waiting with further shooting Dp/DAP until the situation is more clear for his studio and other silmilar studios .
I am quite worried about this and hope he gets back to his schedule as he gave us some nice DP models last year .

Not sure is this is the correct topic , but I think this needs to be talked about somewhere .

I have created a separate thread for the important points about increase cooperation between studios that PAFstudio mentions: https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=42571#p651799. Feel free to take a look and hopefully discuss.