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....it would be justified to whine if it didn't deliver.

However this is a shop window and you only pay for what you decide to buy. If you do not find something to buy, shop elsewhere!

Forum members can't change the content and xxx will base his decisions on what makes business sense. Filling the forum with whining, doesn't make LP better but it makes the forum worse.

I mean, if I was advertised that I could get a specific scene that contained something specific and that scene DIDN'T have that... then a complaint would be justfied. Otherwise, not so much.

Agree, I think when a specific scene is not meeting quality standards or is falsely advertised it is fair to alert forum members.

Lately the trending to complaining for each fetish or genre is insane.

The variety in the site is quite big to find whatever fetishes or sex acts prefer in a lot of scenes.

I understand that more than one user would buy some scene if some thing it wasnt there but.. it a toxic trending these days.

This is true, it took me awhile to adjust to the membership payment structure with tickets vs unlimited downloads. While you have to filter through more releases each day vs 2016 when I started and it was just Giorgio and Gonzo basically, monthly tickets gets me about 4-5 releases per month so I just have to choose wisely (not always winners but once you know the talent and studio you like, it's a pretty safe bet). If you don't like it, don't buy it. If nothing strikes your fancy then stop your membership and let your tickets ride until you find what you like. Mine never last the full month except for rare exceptions.

vvvv84335 wrote:I mean, if I was advertised that I could get a specific scene that contained something specific and that scene DIDN'T have that... then a complaint would be justfied. Otherwise, not so much.

Or if a scene tag only happens for a few seconds, that should also be justified.

misangrenegra2 wrote:Lately the trending to complaining for each fetish or genre is insane.

By now I can imagine that people are not so much bothered by the genres or the other studios - but that they just use it to vent.

People were used to two studios at LP, which usually delivered high quality. Let's be honest - GONZO is dead. And GG...well, somehow he gave up too. Every day the same 1-2 from head to toe tattooed girls. Story book monotony.
If you didn't like a GONZO scene 2 years ago, you just waited for the one the next day. If you don't like a GONZO scene today...you have to wait 1-2 weeks for the next one. If you don't like a GG scene today, you know...tomorrow's will look the same.

So I think people are more angry at GG and GONZO , but take their frustration out on the other studios.

Jocke wrote:....it would be justified to whine if it didn't deliver.

However this is a shop window and you only pay for what you decide to buy. If you do not find something to buy, shop elsewhere!

Forum members can't change the content and xxx will base his decisions on what makes business sense. Filling the forum with whining, doesn't make LP better but it makes the forum worse.

Seriously?

Huge corporations base their decisions on profit, too. But they also ask for feedback. If they would not, they would fail with the time.

The forum here is the feedback. It can be awesome and great but also pretty honest and negative. I think it's important to mention positive but also negative feedback. That's essential for a constantly improvement. In every career, every business and for every product. Today, it seems that the tendency is negative, but it will change if all responsibles and counterparts get active.

Sure, but feedback has to be meaningful to act on.

If you have ideas about how a scene could be made better there is a bigger chance to be heard than if you write shit like: "This site is going downhill", "Make quality content", "Make scenes like in 1990". Nothing to act on really.

Or complaining about genres you don't like. The whole idea with genres are to cater to different tastes and the idea with a filter is to find what you prefer.
Some idiots even state Ban X or Ban Y. How is your brain wired if you first, think that a site should ban what you don't like? and second that anyone actually would take you seriously?

Jocke wrote:Sure, but feedback has to be meaningful to act on.

If you have ideas about how a scene could be made better there is a bigger chance to be heard than if you write shit like: "This site is going downhill", "Make quality content", "Make scenes like in 1990". Nothing to act on really.

Or complaining about genres you don't like. The whole idea with genres are to cater to different tastes and the idea with a filter is to find what you prefer.
Some idiots even state Ban X or Ban Y. How is your brain wired if you first, think that a site should ban what you don't like? and second that anyone actually would take you seriously?

Agree.

Unfortunately there are a few posters here whose brains appear to be missing some wires, who seem unable to process simple logic. It's not their fault that they are idiots, they can't help it. I don't think there's any cure. But unfortunately for them they waste their time lingering in the Pornbox store complaining that they can't find anything they like to buy.

The most stupid and pompous of them announce that it must be the shop's fault. Because obviously the shopkeeper should provide exclusively for their individual personal taste, while banishing anything that they personally dislike.

If these posters had any sense they'd make constructive suggestions, or just move on and get a life.

Instead, they hang around here opening more and more pointless repetitive forum threads, re-telling the same nonsense to each other in their own little echo chamber.

Meanwhile the studios continue to make and sell what they can and what they want, guided by data about actual sales to the silent majority of customers, and ignore the irrelevant handful of foolish forum posters who endlessly repeat the same illogical complaints.

This site is very good, you only choose to buy the scenes you want. The people who manage this site have all the data. They will know what paying customers want and need.
Ultimately, it is driven by what sells, what makes money and what creates positive PR to the site.

Jocke wrote:Sure, but feedback has to be meaningful to act on.

If you have ideas about how a scene could be made better there is a bigger chance to be heard than if you write shit like: "This site is going downhill", "Make quality content", "Make scenes like in 1990". Nothing to act on really.

Or complaining about genres you don't like. The whole idea with genres are to cater to different tastes and the idea with a filter is to find what you prefer.
Some idiots even state Ban X or Ban Y. How is your brain wired if you first, think that a site should ban what you don't like? and second that anyone actually would take you seriously?

Agree.

What I ment is constructive feedback. Not comments like "it's shit, don't do that".
I saw a lot of great comments with suggestions, examples, pictures, etc. And for myself, I gave enough constructive feedback, too. And it was not directed on my personal tastes, but on Bestseller scenes, only. Problem is imho that directors seem not to care about that. A Bestseller was made and have been forgotten. It's only my personal feeling. Instead of analyzing the aspects which made a scene to a Bestseller and try to use this knowledge to make more scenes with the same quality, almost every new scene looks like a random experiment today (except GG), and most of them have wired camera work, body postures, and other lacking aspects. The scenes are still great, but there is so much potential to make them better, just by learning from the bestsellers. Every business do that, even small ones. And I think Sineplex did that too. Or Luis at the beginning of his Gonzo-time.

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:This site is very good, you only choose to buy the scenes you want. The people who manage this site have all the data. They will know what paying customers want and need.
Ultimately, it is driven by what sells, what makes money and what creates positive PR to the site.

A high sales volume is good but it does not say everything about the quality of the product.
It would be interesting to have a rating system and to find out whether even more sales could be generated with small optimizations. The acquisition of new customers should also be important. If the buyers are only existing customers who just buy everything, no matter how good the video is, it can be quite good in the short term. It is a comfortable situation. In the long term, you get a problem when a competitor offers higher quality and grows not only in sales but also in quality. And that can come faster than you think. The transformation then doesn't come as quickly as you might wish. This is already happening between studios. So, theoretically it can also happen with the whole site.

I am all for us giving quality feedback. Tell what you like and what you wish for. If you can describe it well, someone will eventually listen.

What is becoming boring is the fight between those who want shoes on and those who want shoes off. Directors often try to please everyone with half the scene with/without shoes then the fuckers complain that the shoes are not on or off the whole scene!!!

Same with/without bush. There are obviously those who prefer either or and there are plenty of girls shaved and not shaved and sometimes the switch. it cannot be improved while still satisfying as many as possible.

There are 0% scenes and there are DP scenes with pussy. Buy what you like.

Some complained about wet scenes, then they got dry versions then they complained that the girls were not completely dried off and you could see that it was a wet scene even if it was cut. You cannot please everyone!

The kind of feedback I find meaningful is when we propose new things that haven't been done before. New ideas are always interesting.

Well said, sums it up for me. Support what you like with your wallet and comment on the forum as well but I try to be respectful and praise what I do like instead attacking something that doesn't fit my particular tastes. Sales will win out and drive what type of content will be produced here.

justinwarren41 wrote: Support what you like with your wallet (...)

Absolutely correct and logical sentence. But let's say there was no alternative to the product and the clientele is somewhat hooked - what does that say about the product? Let's take GG as an example. Every day tattooed arms, legs, torso....GG does not shoot anything else. As I estimate the forum, there are many porn addicts here who, according to the many negative comments here, do not like the current product very much, but still buy it because they need their daily dose of DAP.

In this respect, your sentence doesn't give me hope for more variety (referring to the two main studios), since people don't buy what they like, but what is offered.

Paizal wrote:there are many porn addicts here who, according to the many negative comments here, do not like the current product very much, but still buy it because they need their daily dose of DAP.
In this respect, your sentence doesn't give me hope for more variety (referring to the two main studios), since people don't buy what they like, but what is offered.

Exactly!