POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

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Which were you main porn user changes in 2021?

Poll ended at Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:30 pm

I bought more videos due to all those cute next-door Russian girls
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15%
I bought more videos due to those Latina imports to Prague
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10%
I bought more videos due to better catering for my fetishes
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28%
I bought less videos due to chaos in pornbox
5
13%
I bought less videos due to price rises
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23%
I bought less videos due to own income cuts (Corona crisis)
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No votes
I bought the same amount of videos like in 2020
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13%
I dont buy more than 1 video per month anyway
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No votes
I dont support porn biz with my money for many years already
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No votes
 
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POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:30 pm

Last year brought a lot of changes in AVLP:
new Russian studios (not NRX, which releases scenes since Summer 2020)
Latina import girl attack
Italian import girl attack
Pornstar studios (Oscar Batty, Angelo Godshack, Stacy Bloom, Monica Fox etc)
Lots more BTS (GIO/XfreaX, N&F, Latin Teens, Galla)
kreme back (PAF and N&F)
solo scenes (Siswet etc)
etc.

I wonder how this influenced your user/consumer behavior?

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Please choose the most appropriate option for your porn user behavior in 2021.
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Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:43 pm

Didnt add an individual consumer change with me that will come into effect really only in 2022 I think and is maybe too peculiar. But I can still tell about, maybe others have had the same last year:
In 2021 I funded myself a yet much deeper insight into Prague biz on one hand by helping Ava Harris and on the other by doing more porn girl interviews (St. Bloom, S. Soprano, Sh. Thorne etc. viewtopic.php?f=96&t=25243&hilit=Interviews#p314581). Both experiences were very interesting and deeply moving, but they also revealed a biz in a deeper crisis at least from performers POV than I used to see before.

Ava made me buy more DP to truly support the girls I want to watch DAP-ed. She finally convinced me it was worth doing, even though I still think DP can be skipped with many girls. But she showed me that there are also many girls who do need DP on their way to DAP (or DPP for fans of this fetish).
Silvia and also - and her to a much deeper extent - Stacy made me think more about reasons "our" girls get into porn for and also about self-empowering effect of this line of work, given true support by good people inside.

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This all didn't really change my user habits so far, but it might on the long run.
True I bought some more DP scenes, even a few solo scenes, but I compensated with buying a bit less DAP scenes. ;)
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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby avanfurwet » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:43 pm

Similar amount of scenes in 2021, but from different studios.

Basically buying c.30-50% fewer scenes from Grandi/Giorgio's Lab and Gonzo these days, and buying instead scenes from VK with cute Russian girls.

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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby YumYum74 » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:47 am

avanfurwet wrote:Similar amount of scenes in 2021, but from different studios.

Basically buying c.30-50% fewer scenes from Grandi/Giorgio's Lab and Gonzo these days, and buying instead scenes from VK with cute Russian girls.



Without checking I have the feeling it is somewhat similar for me. Just as one example: yesterday I skipped both the Gonzo and Gio scenes, while buying two of the Russian scenes.

Still buying Gonzo/Gio scenes when I like the model combined with what the scene promises, but there is less and less of what I like for both studios. Already mentioned my issue with Gonzo elsewhere (compared to the Luis years there are just too many models I just can't get into), but at least their action is still pretty decent most of the time. For Gio it's just an overall thing: too much prolapse (I've completely lost interest in Anna de Ville for example, ALL her scenes have prolapse these days), too many MILFs and way too much silicone for my tastes. I will say that I do like most of the Italian newbies, but when paired with a 'prolapser' (which happens a lot in my view) I still pass on those scenes.

I have plenty of issues with the Russian studios as well: camerawork is often not up to par, too much fake cum (looking at you, NRX), not enough swallowing (mainly at VK), and a lot of times they don't bother with a high res picture set (why not? it really adds to a scene). But their girls are almost without exception gorgeous, and that elevates them generally above Gonzo and Gio at the moment.

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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby gannicus » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:11 am

Seriously , the beauty of the actress much decreased except kristy black , susan ayn , brittany bardot , a lot of girls looks like cheap prostitute walk on the sidewalk.

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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby Starrio » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:42 am

My case is weird because in 2021 I bought 570 new videos, which is more than what I bought in 2020.

In 2020 I only bought 320 new videos.

The difference is that overall in 2021 I bought 915 videos, (new + old).

However in 2020 I bought 2,125 videos, (new + old).

Which means in 2020 I bought more than double the quantity of videos I bought in 2020.

And there are two reasons for that:

1. In 2020 videos were cheaper
2. I was a brand-new costumer in 2020, so I had more videos to catch on from previous years, and even today I still do.

In fact, my first purchase ever was Xmas 2018, Xmas 2019, Xmas 2017, Xmas 2016, Xmas 2015, and GIO310 on February 9th, 2020, and that's when all began for me as regular costumer.

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Postby Starrio » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:45 am

Typo: Which means in 2020 I bought more than double the quantity of videos I bought in 2021.

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Postby justinwarren41 » Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:33 am

For me, it was choice #2 "I bought more videos due to those Latina imports to Prague"

Nteens and the girls she shot at the end of 2020 in Medellin were just all incredibly talented girls and red hot scenes. This gave birth to the Fab Five heading the Prague in April of 2021
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Let's hope Valentina Milan and Natasha can make it back in 2022 along with Min Galilea and possibly a new edition to Natasha's Dream Team

I've mentioned this in other topics but that's my explanation for my vote in this poll. I will say ticket prices are starting to creep up and the monthly reset doesn't go nearly as far as it use to which makes me really carefully choose what I purchase. I choose the same girls once I know they deliver each time.
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Postby Starrio » Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:51 am

Yeah, if prices keep increasing, some Gonzo and GIO scenes are like 9, and 10 tickets now, then you will naturally become more selective in what you buy, that's just how it is.

You want to support the girls, but you have to be realistic too, and the good thing about having a big backlog is that you always end up finding something you really enjoy, which is probably the reason you bought it in the first place.

In a way it is a good thing because since you end up buying less, you end up getting more of what you really like, as oppose of just experimenting with things that look attractive, but may not be what it looks like.

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Postby justinwarren41 » Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:31 am

Yes! I only have enough time and money to watch so much porn so I stick to my favorite girls which makes it difficult for new girls to enter the mix. I always have a bunch of the scenes in the queue that I'm waiting to find time to watch
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Postby Starrio » Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:15 am

That's rough because Natasha always bring new talent. For example I feel both Aradia Ackerman, and Zara Rojas are super delicious. And so it is Michele Anderson over Latin Productions. Then there are all the other hotties too.

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Postby bake0213 » Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:24 am

I buy less videos, because there are fewer models I find attractive...not counting the garbage studios of course. I don't even look at those. Many models I don't even give a second look too, because of the ridiculous amount of tattoos, stretched ears, or they are just plain unfortunate looking.

Second is price, not because I think it is always too high, but because it just cause me to raise my standard for what I will purchase.

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Postby dap-addict » Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:05 am

Starrio wrote:Yeah, if prices keep increasing, some Gonzo and GIO scenes are like 9, and 10 tickets now, then you will naturally become more selective in what you buy, that's just how it is.

Its basically cheep still 9-10tkt for a multiple girl scene with 5-7 studs, but of course compared to previous prices it looks expensive. Because previously scenes were sold way too cheap, both xxx and Giorgio Grandi explained that multiple times.

But for us users subjective feeling counts. Thus I am not really surprised its 9 vs. 6 votes currently. Because price rise just makes you more selective, it does it with me also, even I know its still pretty cheap for the level of porn quality I get here.

Today for instance there was that nice package rcDAP position Anna de Ville does recently and I am really into that super flexible trick of hers, but than its 8,9tkt, and many cons like prolapse, badly chosen fishnets etc. Thus I skip what I would have easily bought for 5,5tkt 2 years ago.

Btw, luckily today I was lucky enough to get a missing Blanche Bradbury DAP in free tickets section, thus my porn consumer day is saved. :D
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Postby ZiziMinuscule2 » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:25 pm

No this option in the poll. I stopped buying any other scenes except of Russian made ones.

I've reduced buying scenes long time ago since there was nothing interesting me in the LP output except of Taylee Wood scenes. However, in 2021, the Russian studios appeared. Now I'm buying only Russian made scenes with Russian next-door-girls. I've no more any interest in other studios.

I wish all the best for all Russian studios, models, actors, directors and crew members. Please, keep working. You are producing the best porn ever.

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Postby dap-addict » Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:31 pm

ZiziMinuscule2 wrote:No this option in the poll. I stopped buying any other scenes except of Russian made ones.

So you bought more scenes than in 2020 due to new Russian girls?
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Postby bdsmpretty » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:23 pm

I chose the 'bought same amount as 2020' but would define that (poll wouldn't let me choose more than one option, which would have made more sense I think) as buying less Gonzo/GG content due to the sensational 2021 Latin American and Russian invasion.

I actually wonder how that has worked out for AV as a financial bet, to invite other producers to sell through the AV network for a fee.
Yes, thay get a percentage on product they don't have to create, so apparently free money (minus any AV site overheads).
But if (as is my case, and many others too I think) they are selling less Gonzo/GG product as a consequence, with whom they have a close relationship (not sure of the contractual ins-and-outs, but Gonzo/GG seem core to AV, while others peripheral), then they may be no better off, perhaps even worse off.

I gernally buy one scene a week (which easily falls within the monthly allowance), and the outstanding balance left over I use for *special emergency* scenes, such as this week with Valentina Milan and Cyber Shot both releasing great new scenes within days of each other. That is my definition of a special emergency anyway!

I also wonder (hope) if the increased presence of the Latins and Russians among best sllers may see Gonzo and GG exploring other niches and being more adventurous this year. They still make great content, but varaiety is the spice of life etc.

On that theme, I'm not the only forum member who has recently said they would like to see a GagsGirls/HotshotHookups type slopppy oral series here (or even an entire dedicated studio). Perhaps that will finally materialize in 2022.
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Postby justinwarren41 » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:31 pm

This is an intriguing poll. Like seeing where people's preferences and what makes them make a purchase or not but it is hard to ignore the rising ticket prices and I think this will be the top vote. For example I've been waiting for Daniela Ortiz's 6on1 DAP/DP Piss scene to come out, she delivers every damn time so ordinarily it would be an insta-buy but at 9.8 tickets I've been waiting so far. This almost double of what I saw when I became a member in 2016. 4-5 tickets and usually it was no less than a 4on1 gangbang. I'm happy with the talent and video quality at Gio's, Gonzo, Natasha Teen Productions, Yummy etc but this rise in cost is significant, you only get what 40 tickets per month? That only allows about 5 videos a month, which does not go nearly as far as it used to. I'm sure they things priced in the right zone where the revenue is there without dropping sales. I think this is still the best pay site and love supporting my favorite girls/studios but maybe there's a different price strategy out there like other sites adopted.
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Postby dap-addict » Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:30 am

justinwarren41 wrote:...but it is hard to ignore the rising ticket prices and I think this will be the top vote. For example I've been waiting for Daniela Ortiz's 6on1 DAP/DP Piss scene to come out, she delivers every damn time so ordinarily it would be an insta-buy but at 9.8 tickets I've been waiting so far. This almost double of what I saw when I became a member in 2016.

Results are getting more interesting now with more votes casted, indeed.
I mean like all polls its only the tip of an iceberg, but it shows quite a lot still.
Just take buy less because of tkt rise vs. buy more because of catering for my festish option now. Its almost balanced, which shows that expanding main and side fetishes payed Pornbox off well probably.

As for the price rise it sure hurts, but again a 6on1 DAP scene with a girl flown in all the way from Columbia at 9,8tkt isn't really that much! Especially if you start thinking a bit beyond your own wallet and more biz sustainable. If you recharge with the 120tkt you pay about 6,5$ for that scene. Balance this to the amount they had to invest to get that scene done, pay DAP fee for a top model, pay 6 studs half of them rare BBC, split travel costs by maybe 10scenes, pay studio bills etc.

Of course, me too, I have become more picky after the big price rise in Summer 2020.
But I also have to be fair enough to see that at least AVLP core studios have still a very fair pricing policy.
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Postby justinwarren41 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:58 am

I get the costs of everything but for example in 2016 release, 10 man gangbang for Ria Sunn. One of the most beautiful and popular to ever shoot for LegalPorno. 4 tickets. That's a steep increase no matter how you look at it.

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Postby dap-addict » Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:35 am

Its a big price rise, but mainly based on numbers not local buying power.
Prices for lots of things have risen a lot in Prague last 5y.
And Ria Sunn was a local girl, she hadnt to be flown in.
Also her fees were always down-to-earth, also for DAP.
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Postby MS100 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:56 pm

Thanks dap-addict for starting this interesting discussion! :cool:

Since I've just really started being focused on this site and less to others since last year, my purchases here over the years are not that much comparable.
I just bought and signed up here and there, but now I am more focused on this site.

The forum is unravalled. I think it is just fair, beside of what you've already mentioned, to price in the availability of such a well structured and dedicated forum
connected to models, studios, scenes etc. Other porn providers haven't got this kind of "comparative advantage" as far as I know.

Assessing prices and deciding how to spend money, I think it is important to what you are focusing on and what creates real value for you.
I am now also more focusing on scenes to better catering my fetishes rather than just having the newest scene with a new model.
So older scenes which cater my fetishes best and are even cheaper are more preferable than just the newest one or the newest one with a girl
who just delivers the 5th scene which is similar to her previous ones.

Nevertheless, I will also carry on buying new scenes. However it has to be guaranteed that fetishes are satisfied. :o
In this case I am rather happy to spend 10TKT and having a very hard scene than buying a soft one which cost 7.5...
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Postby Wotan29 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:04 pm

The most important option is missing:

I bought no videos due to boring cookie cutter scenes

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Wotan29 wrote:The most important option is missing:
I bought no videos due to boring cookie cutter scenes

Would that be less videos than in 2020 for you?
Or the same amount of videos bought?
i.e. nothing to buy 2021 like 2020?
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Postby Wotan29 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:11 am

dap-addict wrote:
Wotan29 wrote:The most important option is missing:
I bought no videos due to boring cookie cutter scenes

Would that be less videos than in 2020 for you?
Or the same amount of videos bought?
i.e. nothing to buy 2021 like 2020?
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If I remember it correctly the last regular scene I bought was in 2020 Zoe Sparx "Drowned in Piss" (not Zoe Sparks, LP philistines!).
From then on because of all those soulless cookie cutter scenes my kind of an "boycott" started. Now it´s 2022...

in 2021 I bought two BTS scenes just out of curiosity, because Anna de Ville was involved and I appreciate her style, her humor, her personality.
Apart from her parts the rest was extremely disillusioning.
Everyone with open eyes can see: LP aka Giorgio/Gonzo is just an assembly line production porn factory.

Sometimes I skip through a scene with a girl I like on the known tube sites.
But nothing worth to buy. It´s mostly bad porn, sometimes mediocre porn - without ideas, let alone a vision.
Always the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, ...

No hope at all anything will change for the better.
(Although Giorgio should actually think about why he didn't have a SINGLE monthly bestseller in 2021 - despite all his lines (Giorgio Grandi, Giorgio's Lab, XfreaX). In some months none of his scenes wasn't even in the Top 10.)

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Postby dap-addict » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:44 am

So that's 2 (in 2021) vs. 1 (in 2020).
I bet you spent 9tkt vs. about 8tkt than.
Thats hard to vote, indeed. I would have chosen same amount probably.

Wotan29 wrote:(Although Giorgio should actually think about why he didn't have a SINGLE monthly bestseller in 2021 - despite all his lines (Giorgio Grandi, Giorgio's Lab, XfreaX). In some months none of his scenes wasn't even in the Top 10.)

Agree! :(
There was some input especially from performers side but effect is visible only for connoisseurs.
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Postby foreddy » Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:22 pm

in the past I was purchasing mostly everything and it was good for all studios. Cost have increased a lot. So, you have created a strong competition between the different studios .For sure, the quality is important but why have you organized this competition between studios?
Tickets are not unlimited. So, I need to say that i'm more and more critical and challenging in my choices and it means that some studios will probably disappear. i'm sure i'm not the only one in that case.

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Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:05 am

foreddy wrote:Tickets are not unlimited. So, I need to say that i'm more and more critical and challenging in my choices and it means that some studios will probably disappear.

Could also be that studios curb down production, though. Or that they split into 2-3 smaller studios, as we have already seen in 2021.
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Postby dap-addict » Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:22 pm

Still surprised fetishes seem to have gotten so important.
But than its what I probably lobbied for last 10-15y in porn forums. Now I reap what I've sawn focusing on sex and not thinking of vomit or piss or prolapse than ofc. :confused:
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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby Starrio » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:36 pm

One thing that has changed for me so far is that I just got engaged on Sunday night, but she is cool with me watching porn, and she likes the same porn I do, so I feel it won't be a problem. We had a nice weekend of sex at the beach before I proposed, and now I have my head around so many things coming up regarding the preparations for a future wedding, but I will still come and support my favorite site, I visit the forums from my phone, like texting, so I will try to keep up on my free time.

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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby Eat_Abooty » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:53 pm

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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby dap-addict » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:07 am

Starrio wrote:One thing that has changed for me so far is that I just got engaged on Sunday night

Wow! Congratulations! :)
Yep, do so please, you would be missed a lot, Starrio!
But she has to come first now, always remember that!
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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby Starrio » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:31 am

dap-addict wrote:
Starrio wrote:One thing that has changed for me so far is that I just got engaged on Sunday night

Wow! Congratulations! :)
Yep, do so please, you would be missed a lot, Starrio!
But she has to come first now, always remember that!


Nope, I will still be here, and thanks for the congratulations. We have dinner tonight.

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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby dap-addict » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:37 am

Good to read, thanks Starrio! :cool:

Btw, I am still surprised at the 19 "buy more" vs. 13 "buy less" outcome.
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Postby dap-addict » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:25 pm

dap-addict wrote:Btw, I am still surprised at the 19 "buy more" vs. 13 "buy less" outcome.

I actually voted same amount.
Which also means more money invested into AVLP.
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Postby avanfurwet » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:25 pm

dap-addict wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Btw, I am still surprised at the 19 "buy more" vs. 13 "buy less" outcome.

I actually voted same amount.
Which also means more money invested into AVLP.

AVLP is dead, it's Pornbox now.
So the poll is really asking about people's ractions to the current incarnation of the website, with the variety of products on offer.

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Postby dap-addict » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:45 pm

AVLP for me is the old core studios of 2020ff.
Whether where I can buy AVLP scenes is called Pornbox or Analvids or Pissvids I dont care much about. But as a user and customer I know that I didnt support other studios than what I call AVLP + Stacy Bloom Studio when she offered b/g anal.
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Postby RUShersgapersrises » Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:17 pm

AVLP was in 2021 in a lasting long term decline, similar to previous years which also indicates a number of critical topics(often justified ).EXCEPT FOR...the last 2-3 months of year.With the AG studio start,Emilys comeback and some russians models/scenes there is a certain change for the better.Together with some other regular models I must say that I am quite satisfied with the current situation even though it looks like some models are now "a little stuck".We'll see what to do next in 2022, because the situation here is unpredictable and is changing rapidly.
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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby justinwarren41 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:29 pm

Agree! End of 2021 was really strong, with the NRX girls that debuted and the return of some of the Colombians and Alexxa Vice. Bit of slow down so far in 2022 but things should take off soon
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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby avanfurwet » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:07 pm

dap-addict wrote:AVLP for me is the old core studios of 2020ff.
Whether where I can buy AVLP scenes is called Pornbox or Analvids or Pissvids I dont care much about. But as a user and customer I know that I didnt support other studios than what I call AVLP + Stacy Bloom Studio when she offered b/g anal.

Well, perhaps that idiosyncratic selection works for you as an individual. For many customers, they can now choose from a range including new and spin-off studios like;

Angelo Godshack
Black in White
Faplex
Giolab in Russia (sometimes)
GothCharlotte
Mr Anderson
N&F
Natasha Teen/Latina Teens
NRX
RSPN
Valter Karo
Vira Gold
XfreaX
Yummy Estudio
Others I forgot

So I think the borders are unclear between what is/was "LP" or "AV" and what is now "Pornbox".

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Re: POLL: Your main porn user changes of 2021?

Postby dap-addict » Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:57 am

After a heavy cutie release day, Russian factor begins to show! :)
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