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WTF is happening with the LP in these days?

Agree...Main page of "new" scenes is a cluster fuck of garbage that is mostly not new. New to the site perhaps, but new as in newly released I think not.
User friendly, seems to be a term lost on the people running the show, for the better part of 2 years now.

sokcitam wrote:WTF is happening with the LP in these days?

Milking.

It’s been terrible the last 2 years. Remember 2010-2017 had gorgeous women get fucked up the ass. Now, just garbage.

Haven't bought anything in months. Haven't even checked new scenes in a month or so now. One day soon I'll look through newer scenes to buy some but I'm not expecting much. I saw Netzerkaiser made a post about not neglecting older scenes. I agree with him here. There are lots of great older scenes if you feel there is a drought of quality new scenes right now.

Won't say it's garbage but clearly a downgrade from 2-3 years ago.Luckyly there's still some top notch ladies at Gio and Gonzo.

That's what have been saying... Nobody listens. It will affect core studios. If the core studios are gone LP will become another [spam] site.

Today i was watching Jasmine Jae GIO432, and man... what a masterpiece; yesterday i watched one GIO scene from Cathy Heaven, the same feeling. These days it's hard to get a premium scene, everything is piss, piss, and more piss, and low quality scenes. The only woman that keeps me around here is Jolee Love, what a goddess; i'm glad she's back, otherwise, i would be watching old porn from the last decade, lol. I'd like to think it's all about corona, maybe it's really hard to get the best girls in the business, and shoot the "old school LP", style. Bring back the beauties to Analvids!.

GapeAppreciator wrote:Haven't bought anything in months. Haven't even checked new scenes in a month or so now. One day soon I'll look through newer scenes to buy some but I'm not expecting much. I saw Netzerkaiser made a post about not neglecting older scenes. I agree with him here. There are lots of great older scenes if you feel there is a drought of quality new scenes right now.

I agree with both of you. Many of the older GG/GG Exclusive and first gape scenes, for example, are amazing. No frills, excellent action, and the fine ladies well earned what they made.

pastaga wrote:Won't say it's garbage but clearly a downgrade from 2-3 years ago.Luckyly there's still some top notch ladies at Gio and Gonzo.

I have the same feeling. The main studios show a reduction of quality. Like pastaga said, if anyone takes a looks 2-3 years back the scenes looks better in all terms.

Currently, even with the fucking covid, the business has survive and a lot of new hot girls have been appear in the site, the bad part have been the rise of prices.

But my sensation is that the mains studios are currently very unflexibles and rigids, in summary, lack of ideas. If some of us have complaining about this during the last years, nowadays the situation is more evident. Less locations, less variety of outfits and, in my opinion, worse male crew selections in the scenes and reduction of them in the scenes too.. like if the idea was cheapen the scenes.

pastaga wrote: Less locations, less variety of outfits

Hey

If you let me add to this discussion a remark from the Production side of things - this summer was almost OK in terms of model availability, shooting possibilities etc. But with the rise of cases with this pandemic, it is now getting again a bit desperate. This thing in the World put a big stigma on this industry and the recent changes and regulations, came into effect just this middle of October by one of the big card processors, did not help either.

Nowadays properly administering a scene is like 40 pages of written documents and like 30 minutes of video reel, never even seen by anyone else, just the crew and it is for compliance. Half of the time spent with this administrative bs frankly

Sorry to bother, just thought I share these.

The's sites becoming diluted. There's so many releases in a day on the homepage, how do they expect girls to sell if the scenes are becoming lost and way down the homepage if users haven't visited the site in days. You used to be able to watch trailers every day, now I don't bother as much. I'm just not interested in most of the independent crap, like XXXXXL dildos, sex on a boat, virtual reality blowjobs and fucking scenes so old they look pulled off tube sites.

Please get rid off the 30 second trailers on the homepage too that don't show any action of the scene. Why even bother? just so pointless. Can they not just filter this crap off the homepage and leave the main studio Giorgio, gonzo , Nrg etc on there instead.

I was aiming for December when I predicted this and I was laughed at.
A lot.
Remember?
And now look where we're at.

100% agree It's crazy so many scene none of them interesting why is there is no amateur interracial scene crazy I didn't buy anything lately from LP.

DukeBishop wrote:The's sites becoming diluted. There's so many releases in a day on the homepage, how do they expect girls to sell if the scenes are becoming lost and way down the homepage if users haven't visited the site in days. You used to be able to watch trailers every day, now I don't bother as much. I'm just not interested in most of the independent crap, like XXXXXL dildos, sex on a boat, virtual reality blowjobs and fucking scenes so old they look pulled off tube sites.

Please get rid off the 30 second trailers on the homepage too that don't show any action of the scene. Why even bother? just so pointless. Can they not just filter this crap off the homepage and leave the main studio Giorgio, gonzo , Nrg etc on there instead.

That's a good point and I agree that something needs to be done about the storefront. Scenes with no actual trailer has no place among the recently produced content and should at least be filterable or better yet, moved to a separate list for spam. The occasional whale buying those scenes can't justify ruining the front page for the majority of paying customers.
Dozens of scenes each night is also causing Porn Box Bot to ruin the forum by constantly updating the "Active topics" view each night and completely burying any interesting discussions from taking place after just a few days. The active topics function needs to disregard posts by Porn Box Bot or something because this is heading for disaster.

DPraved wrote:

DukeBishop wrote:The's sites becoming diluted. There's so many releases in a day on the homepage, how do they expect girls to sell if the scenes are becoming lost and way down the homepage if users haven't visited the site in days. You used to be able to watch trailers every day, now I don't bother as much. I'm just not interested in most of the independent crap, like XXXXXL dildos, sex on a boat, virtual reality blowjobs and fucking scenes so old they look pulled off tube sites.

Please get rid off the 30 second trailers on the homepage too that don't show any action of the scene. Why even bother? just so pointless. Can they not just filter this crap off the homepage and leave the main studio Giorgio, gonzo , Nrg etc on there instead.

That's a good point and I agree that something needs to be done about the storefront. Scenes with no actual trailer has no place among the recently produced content and should at least be filterable or better yet, moved to a separate list for spam. The occasional whale buying those scenes can't justify ruining the front page for the majority of paying customers.
Dozens of scenes each night is also causing Porn Box Bot to ruin the forum by constantly updating the "Active topics" view each night and completely burying any interesting discussions from taking place after just a few days. The active topics function needs to disregard posts by Porn Box Bot or something because this is heading for disaster.

I mostly agree with your sentiments.

I guess they need the 30 second "lazy" trailers to generate the thumbnails and slideshow on the storefront?

And I guess the forum software is pretty standard phpBB and "active topics" would be a standard function?

Maybe they could somehow programm the Porn Box Bot to skip older scenes, but if they still populate the "Release Date" field with the date when they upload the scene for sale, I guess they'd need to find some other piece of information to trigger the bot.

IMO it might be better to have a separate process to bulk upload the back-catalogue for a new studio joining Pornbox, instead of force-feeding everything through the sausage machine funnel of "daily releases". I think this might be what XXX has written about elsewhere.

We already said we would add something to let you indicate that you are not interested at all in certain studios/tags/models. It's a priority. The current situation was expected.

Sorry if i misunderstood, but isn't this the point of the "Feed", I only add certain girls/studios onto my feed and so its curated more to my tastes, I never go on "new" because it is overcrowded.

This way I get about 3 or 4 videos per day added onto my feed (pee ones get put on twice), overall it's easier to navigate.

Remember you can subscribe to models, tags and studios. But we still need something more sophisticated to handle the influx of new studios.

Thanks xxx for the explanation .

Still , I see at least one victim of the overcrowding :
Look at newbie Luna Haze´s thread --- only 2 posts !

Not so much my kind of girl ( I prefer Latinas , Asians , half-Blacks etc ...) , but still an interesting natural pale redhead .
I thought the white girl fans would flood her topic , but they didn´t ; probably bcuz they didn´t notice her due to the 15-30 new daily not so relevant scenes .

I would love to see the scenes coming from most selling studios standing out in the pornbox store.
Like with the use of a specific font color or something...


And about the "lack" of quality content :

- Gonzo quality hasn't really dropped, but kinda less of multi girls scenes than the past.
- Covid has had an impact on Russian models and their import. And now, even with the improving situation, models and agencies are becoming more picky. Also there is now a few studios in Russia so models don't need to visit Prague anymore... And sadly no new baltic models for ages either. But thanks Giorgio for bringing some cool new italian girls.
- However, what disappoints me the most is the lack of creativity in Gio work : all the scenes are the same with just the number and color of dicks changing. Where are the stories, the roleplay, the diverse outfits and situations we used to have ?

I said this 6 months ago, no one listened... protect your core studios

sexaddict251 wrote:I said this 6 months ago, no one listened... protect your core studios

Dito.

Why should xxx do that ?
The more scenes releases, the more money he gets...

We first had that price rise to make other /new studios competitive with the core ones. Maybe that quality downgrade was also for that.

And now the plan is quantity > quality. With more than 50% of euro porn released on AV I'm pretty sure it was a nice business strategy. Maybe us who are complaining spend less than before, but I'm pretty sure there's lots of new customers who don't even know this forum...

pastaga wrote:Why should xxx do that ?
The more scenes releases, the more money he gets...

Thats not how it works, he's killing the goose...

We first had that price rise to make other /new studios competitive with the core ones. Maybe that quality downgrade was also for that.

And now the plan is quantity > quality. With more than 50% of euro porn released on AV I'm pretty sure it was a nice business strategy. Maybe us who are complaining spend less than before, but I'm pretty sure there's lots of new customers who don't even know this forum...

If the quality is bad no one will purchase anything, other armature sites will take this chance, one good anal/Piss site, that's all it takes, AV will loose it's high traffic.

Quality is weaker, but the best anal / piss scenes are still here IMO.
No other big website offers wet content.
I'd say AV main competitor is Evil Angel. EA has Rocco, Proxy and some other cool directors but are they really better ? Also they're more focused on american models.

And good luck for a small team to set up top notch wet releases and distribute them on their own... They will definitely need someone with big money behind.

Maybe my perspective is a little different to everyone else, My view is that it's fundamentally a question of girls and the fact that Russian 18/19 year old girls mostly shoot for NRX, please see attached for pictures of top 5 scenes over the last 3 months, effectively Russian studios (who are naturally similar) have a large number of great girls exclusive to them, I think that once restrictions lift and we get those girls shooting for Gonzo/Giorgio we will see an increase in "quality"

Here are girls that seem very popular

It's a pity that girls like Mia Piper often quickly disappear from the scene. And when such a girl does appear, she is wasted on a mini dick studio like NRX.

As for the NRX studio, I have already said this in another debate. So I think they have the most amazing girls right now. Hot, sexy and young. But! It doesn’t help because the male actors in the studio are really bad and there is also a bad level of camera work and anyway the studio videos show a certain kind of amateurism. For example, studio lighting is sometimes horrible! And then yet NRX doesn’t bring anything new or different to porn but repeats the mannerisms of other studios.

It just keeps getting worse.

It looks like they finally removed old scenes that are re-released from the "new releases" page, so that's one step forward I guess, but then they take two steps back. Now there are studios like MLR Studio that appeared to have released two identical scenes today, however one of them is more expensive and has a different title (though the contents and duration appear to be identical).

I call bullshit on this, my library is 2,800 scenes, and I started buying in 2020. I do have some older scenes, but the new stuff is what keeps me coming too.

You don't have to buy everything, just the the stuff you like, and that's already more than many people are willing to spend, so you always end up with a backlog on the wish list, and then try to catch up.

Answer this, how many scenes per month do you need?

If you don't like Moona Snake, Silvia Soprano, Bonnie Dolce, Dalila Dark, Jessica Night, Kristy Black, Miriam More, Jayla De Angelis, Mina, Sandra Soul, Eveline Dellai, Francesca Palma, Megan Venturi, Lina Arian, Nikki Hill, Paola Hard, Kaira Love, Francesca Palma, Sweetie Plum, Blaze, etc., not to mention all the Russian cuties you see all the time, then there is something wrong with your dick and you need to go see the doctor.

My take on this is a few things.

Firstly, the 'New Scenes' landing page has progressively become totally crowded out with scenes that are not actually new, but either 'BTS/Best Of' (can be fun but are not actually scenes), or literally really old scenes from either Sineplex/GG's distant back catalogue, or even allied studios rebooting so-called 'classics' (= decades old scenes) into 4K etc.

Someone needs to think about streamlining that so it works as originally intended, ie 'new scenes'.

Secondly, the Covid shadow is still hanging heavily over life.
Extreme travel restrictions are constantly on and off, as cases rise and subside, making planning impossible any more than days ahead. Those individuals, or agencies, that risk planning ahead further than that risk losing big money if and when the restrictions change against them.
So everyone (studios, performers, agencies) is still extremely hesitant. And to be fair, if performers can easily cam from home, rather than fly off for a set of shoots and risk getting locked down somewhere they can't get home from, then can you really blame them? I think they' re being smart in the circumstances, even if it means fans have to make do with OF etc.

Added into the mix is many countries are now adopting so-called Covid-passports and literally shutting people out until they are fully up to date with jabs upon jabs (and then boosters opn boosters, every six months, forever it seems).
Comply or be shut out indefinitely. Even though we know that vaxed and unvaxed can carry it and pass it on equally.
So increasingly it seems, the vax has gone from what once seemed a useful tool against the virus, into essentially a forever-racket for US big pharma.
Add in the Covid passports (= US big tech companies seeking to introduce digital ID on the sly) gradually being imposed across the most complaint US client states (EU, UK, Australia, Israel) and people are not moving around as much in general.

Thirdly, as for the 'everything is crap and getting worse here these days', a version of that kind of thread has probably been tweeted here ever since the studio started.
All it means is that a articular kind of new performer or preferred performance format that member is looking for has not turned up to their satisfaction for a few weeks, and they are panicking and projecting those few dry weeks (it happens, just as we get amazing weeks) until the end of time, instead of waiting for the cycle to turn, or considering broadening their horizons re the kind of performers and types of scenes they take an interest in.

Finally, all things Covid permitting (it has been a mighty damper on production, but it is what it is and all we can do in response is try to make the best of what we have), I honestly think it has been an amazing year.
Declaring my own preferences, I must admit to being crazy stupid head-over-heels in love with Valentina Milan and Sofi Li. Anything either of them do is must-buy for me.
Since this time last year I had never seen or heard anything of them, I feel as if the porno gods have spoiled me madly this year in gifting me just those two performers.
And my signature is full of others, and those names don't include great new performers this year who either only made one or two scenes, or who have decided to withdraw/take a break/retire.

All of this is glass half full, glass half empty stuff.
Manage your expectations reasonably, try to stay hopeful and positive (what is the alternative, unless you enjoy feeling depressed and disappointed all the time?), keep your tastes broad, and your eyes and mind wide-open to new experiences.

As all these apply to life, they equally apply to porn. Chin up!

I think Pornbox are trying to release that MLR Luna Rival scene simultaneously on PPV and for inclusive subscribers. Obviously something's not right.

I think they may have teething problems with stacking the studio subscription model on top of the original PPV model.

Which again argues for a rethink (which XXX says they are doing) of the landing page so that customers can more easily find what they want to buy.

Also, perhaps mods could create a separate sub-forum like "Hater's Corner" for malcontents, and sweep all the many pointlessly repetitive negative threads into one place for those who only want to read or write about such things.

Then maybe somebody could take the time to extract the occasional worthwhile suggestion from the bottomless cesspool of mindless "I don't like everything so it's all crap" posts.

avanfurwet wrote:I think Pornbox are trying to release that MLR Luna Rival scene simultaneously on PPV and for inclusive subscribers. Obviously something's not right.

I think they may have teething problems with stacking the studio subscription model on top of the original PPV model.

Which again argues for a rethink (which XXX says they are doing) of the landing page so that customers can more easily find what they want to buy.

Also, perhaps mods could create a separate sub-forum like "Hater's Corner" for malcontents, and sweep all the many pointlessly repetitive negative threads into one place for those who only want to read or write about such things.

Then maybe somebody could take the time to extract the occasional worthwhile suggestion from the bottomless cesspool of mindless "I don't like everything so it's all crap" posts.

A scene can be in PPV and membership at the same time but in that case they insisted that they want 2 separate accounts.

Stick to the big studios, in particular Gonzo and Giorgio on Pornbox. I LOVE their content. The quality is there but you just have to ignore the scenes that you do not fancy...

avanfurwet wrote:I think Pornbox are trying to release that MLR Luna Rival scene simultaneously on PPV and for inclusive subscribers. Obviously something's not right.

I think they may have teething problems with stacking the studio subscription model on top of the original PPV model.

Which again argues for a rethink (which XXX says they are doing) of the landing page so that customers can more easily find what they want to buy.

Also, perhaps mods could create a separate sub-forum like "Hater's Corner" for malcontents, and sweep all the many pointlessly repetitive negative threads into one place for those who only want to read or write about such things.

Then maybe somebody could take the time to extract the occasional worthwhile suggestion from the bottomless cesspool of mindless "I don't like everything so it's all crap" posts.

You literally described legitimate problems with the website, and then go on to say that the negativity is a pointless, repetitive cesspool?

+1 on needing better organization on the daily releases.
Also, +1 on quantity < quality. /thread

beklof wrote:As for the NRX studio, I have already said this in another debate. So I think they have the most amazing girls right now. Hot, sexy and young. But! It doesn’t help because the male actors in the studio are really bad and there is also a bad level of camera work and anyway the studio videos show a certain kind of amateurism. For example, studio lighting is sometimes horrible! And then yet NRX doesn’t bring anything new or different to porn but repeats the mannerisms of other studios.

agree
but when girls ready to leave nrx and go to prague they looks as trash, or leave porn
90% scenes in new skipped,
miss 20-15-2016,long legged girls looked like top models - arwen,lita,leona levi, goldie

brian6902 wrote:

avanfurwet wrote:I think Pornbox are trying to release that MLR Luna Rival scene simultaneously on PPV and for inclusive subscribers. Obviously something's not right.

I think they may have teething problems with stacking the studio subscription model on top of the original PPV model.

Which again argues for a rethink (which XXX says they are doing) of the landing page so that customers can more easily find what they want to buy.

Also, perhaps mods could create a separate sub-forum like "Hater's Corner" for malcontents, and sweep all the many pointlessly repetitive negative threads into one place for those who only want to read or write about such things.

Then maybe somebody could take the time to extract the occasional worthwhile suggestion from the bottomless cesspool of mindless "I don't like everything so it's all crap" posts.

You literally described legitimate problems with the website, and then go on to say that the negativity is a pointless, repetitive cesspool?

You're conflating different statements.

Anyone can complain about anything, even better if they can think of an actual reason beyond "I don't like it".

It's pointless and repetitive to open multiple new threads for the same complaints, and for the same small band of complainants to join in each thread repeating their same complaints. That doesn't amplify the complaint, it diminishes it. Readers will tune out and pass by.