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What your opinion on Wonder Toys? I'm not a big fan of solo & toys but I must admit this stuff is pretty hot, especially the fisting part. I would love to see them expanding to using a real dicks, mixed with horse dildos it would be amazing.

These scenes are a hard no for me. I buy a lot of scenes but have not and will not be buying any of TheWonderToy scenes.

Whilst, I like the extreme fisting parts (I much prefer that in a longer scene e.g. 45+ mins, with male performers doing many other penetrative sex acts).

I'm a big fan of it. I've been asking for more variation for a long time, big toys, fisting, more extreme anal stuff etc. DP/DAP gangbangs are great but there are thousands of those scenes on LP already and the other studios are always making new ones. WonderToys is unique as it's the only studio on LP that has regular male fisting and girls being fucked hard with huge dildos, pushing their anal limits harder than they would in other scenes. At the moment it's a great studio for people into hardcore anal. I think if they tried to expand it there is a danger it would lose focus on the huge toys and fisting and become another studio making gangbang scenes like the others.

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:Whilst, I like the extreme fisting parts (I much prefer that in a longer scene e.g. 45+ mins, with male performers doing many other penetrative sex acts).

I love these scenes if they're done right, problem is you often end up with 2 minutes of fisting in a 45 minute scene, if you're lucky. Usually you just get 30 seconds of a clueless guy trying to work his fist in without enough lube, failing, and then going back to fucking.

keeddy wrote:What your opinion on Wonder Toys? I'm not a big fan of solo & toys but I must admit this stuff is pretty hot, especially the fisting part. I would love to see them expanding to using a real dicks, mixed with horse dildos it would be amazing.

I agree. I like the idea and the novelty but making the whole scene just about fisting and big toys are kinda lame. I would much more prefer to see 2 parters. Part 1 just toys and in part 2 toys + guys, it would be much, much better.

I'd only be interested if these scenes were dirt cheap, as in 1 or 2 tickets each. Most of them are around 15 minutes long, with no actual sex - just toys - for close to 5 tickets. That just seems insanely overpriced to me.

Seeing a guys fist in a women is a huge turn off for me. The Wonder Toys scenes are totally uninteresting for me.

I love the horse toys, and these are a great opportunity to see some anal juices come out too which is always hot, so if the girl is good looking I feel these scenes can all be really good.

Interesting concept (and I love anal fisting) , but overpriced for it's duration, creativity and content.

I like giant dog cock dildos...

drevokocur66 wrote:Interesting concept (and I love anal fisting) , but overpriced for it's duration, creativity and content.

Completely agree

The latest scene with Alicia Tree, as well as Emily Pink's scene, is not good for the studio imo, even though I love both the girls. The unique selling point of WonderToys is that it's the only studio offering male fisting and hard fucking with huge dildos. If you remove that then you have 15 minutes with an average didlo and some girl/girl fisting, it's nothing special and not worth the 4.7tks.

jjwhite1985 wrote:The latest scene with Alicia Tree, as well as Emily Pink's scene, is not good for the studio imo, even though I love both the girls. The unique selling point of WonderToys is that it's the only studio offering male fisting and hard fucking with huge dildos. If you remove that then you have 15 minutes with an average didlo and some girl/girl fisting, it's nothing special and not worth the 4.7tks.

The main point you and many others are not understanding:
- the scenes at WT are priced correctly
- the scene from lets say "pro studio" are underpriced.

big dildos are more espectacular & bigger anal fucking than normal dicks

btw one of the dildos of TheWonderToys is so cool

is named the impaler

is like a sharp spike wood

so brutal & violent i think

they probably tortured witches like that before burning them
https://www.thewondertoys.com/products/impaler

'If you want to Buy Handmade Dildo in USA, Impaler evokes bloody punishments of ancient times'

so brutal omg so cool

omg

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:The latest scene with Alicia Tree, as well as Emily Pink's scene, is not good for the studio imo, even though I love both the girls. The unique selling point of WonderToys is that it's the only studio offering male fisting and hard fucking with huge dildos. If you remove that then you have 15 minutes with an average didlo and some girl/girl fisting, it's nothing special and not worth the 4.7tks.

The main point you and many others are not understanding:
- the scenes at WT are priced correctly
- the scene from lets say "pro studio" are underpriced.

But that's the market price for LP content. My point was that when you can get an hour long scene with g/g fisting for anywhere between 5-8tkts (today GIO1869 6.5tkts), I think WT will struggle if it does 15 min scenes of the same action. With huge dildo fucking and b/g fisting it offers something the other studios don't, but without it there is no incentive to buy it instead of a longer scene.

jjwhite1985 wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:The latest scene with Alicia Tree, as well as Emily Pink's scene, is not good for the studio imo, even though I love both the girls. The unique selling point of WonderToys is that it's the only studio offering male fisting and hard fucking with huge dildos. If you remove that then you have 15 minutes with an average didlo and some girl/girl fisting, it's nothing special and not worth the 4.7tks.

The main point you and many others are not understanding:
- the scenes at WT are priced correctly
- the scene from lets say "pro studio" are underpriced.

But that's the market price for LP content. My point was that when you can get an hour long scene with g/g fisting for anywhere between 5-8tkts (today GIO1869 6.5tkts), I think WT will struggle if it does 15 min scenes of the same action. With huge dildo fucking and b/g fisting it offers something the other studios don't, but without it there is no incentive to buy it instead of a longer scene.

I talk about myself as a customer.
I have 3 membership for websites that sometime release content I like. I have my fetish and this is the only stuff I am interest to watch.
I check the websites almost daily, most of weeks I do not download even a single video. Usually I download 1 or 2 videos/month and what is interesting is like 2-3 minute of video.
I pay about 70-80$ (I dont even know exactly) to watch 5-7 minutes of video.
The websites are terrible to navigate, previews are not well done. trailers are not expression of the video, but still: that's the only place I can find what I like

I am not into fisting, but if I were, I would purchase all WT videos for triple price. So, for you it looks expensive, to someone into the fetish, it looks very cheap.

Self production of model shows that market is done from customers, not from sellers. If tomorrow I start release content at the triple of price and ppl buy it enough to make it more profitable than now, the die is cast.

that impaler dildo is so cool

the coolest dildo ive ever seen

johnnyrock wrote:

keeddy wrote:What your opinion on Wonder Toys? I'm not a big fan of solo & toys but I must admit this stuff is pretty hot, especially the fisting part. I would love to see them expanding to using a real dicks, mixed with horse dildos it would be amazing.

I agree. I like the idea and the novelty but making the whole scene just about fisting and big toys are kinda lame. I would much more prefer to see 2 parters. Part 1 just toys and in part 2 toys + guys, it would be much, much better.

My thoughts exactly. There is definitely a lack of this type of content, no studio is making it but yeah, some variety is needed and that is where your two part idea goes into action. Part one warm-up with toys for real hardcore action in part two, that will sell like crazy.

Interesting to hear about those three memberships. It sounds like they offer very niche stuff if it is that expensive.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:The latest scene with Alicia Tree, as well as Emily Pink's scene, is not good for the studio imo, even though I love both the girls. The unique selling point of WonderToys is that it's the only studio offering male fisting and hard fucking with huge dildos. If you remove that then you have 15 minutes with an average didlo and some girl/girl fisting, it's nothing special and not worth the 4.7tks.

The main point you and many others are not understanding:
- the scenes at WT are priced correctly
- the scene from lets say "pro studio" are underpriced.

I am sure to you, it does seem that way. Nothing is "underpriced" if you sell enough of it. It is strictly about profit, and at the end of the day, if you can milk it, good for you.

- the scenes at WT are priced correctly, for the studio to make a profit, but the duration, content and creativity are not there for me as a customer.
- the scene from lets say "pro studio" are underpriced. Sure, if WT sold like hotcakes, and I doubt they are, it certainly would make other content "seem" underpriced.

drevokocur66 wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:The latest scene with Alicia Tree, as well as Emily Pink's scene, is not good for the studio imo, even though I love both the girls. The unique selling point of WonderToys is that it's the only studio offering male fisting and hard fucking with huge dildos. If you remove that then you have 15 minutes with an average didlo and some girl/girl fisting, it's nothing special and not worth the 4.7tks.

The main point you and many others are not understanding:
- the scenes at WT are priced correctly
- the scene from lets say "pro studio" are underpriced.

I am sure to you, it does seem that way. Nothing is "underpriced" if you sell enough of it. It is strictly about profit, and at the end of the day, if you can milk it, good for you.

- the scenes at WT are priced correctly, for the studio to make a profit, but the duration, content and creativity are not there for me as a customer.
- the scene from lets say "pro studio" are underpriced. Sure, if WT sold like hotcakes, and I doubt they are, it certainly would make other content "seem" underpriced.

We are at the point that sales are not the only reference anymore.
R.O.I (return of investment) in percentage will start counting lot.
Invest 5000, hold a scene for 3 months to get 1000$ profit
Vs
Invest 500, hold the scene for 10 days to get 500$ profit

To chose what content to shoot will be the game change

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:The latest scene with Alicia Tree, as well as Emily Pink's scene, is not good for the studio imo, even though I love both the girls. The unique selling point of WonderToys is that it's the only studio offering male fisting and hard fucking with huge dildos. If you remove that then you have 15 minutes with an average didlo and some girl/girl fisting, it's nothing special and not worth the 4.7tks.

The main point you and many others are not understanding:
- the scenes at WT are priced correctly
- the scene from lets say "pro studio" are underpriced.

Both of you are wrong because you both view price absent of perspective. The "right" price for you, as the seller, is the sweet spot to maximise your revenue: effectively how much you can screw out of the consumer before too many of them choose not to purchase and the profit from the scene goes down. However, from the consumers perspective your two minutes of fisting video (assuming most customers are not interested in subsidising you making rather tedious advertisements for your dildos) for 4.7 tickets is very definitely toward the upper end of things (I take your point about how much YOU can spend on porn scenes but not all of us are raking it in producing porn scenes at twice the price to twice as many consumers as your already profitable business was in previous years and so have to stick to the 95% of the porn for sale that is way way cheaper).
I personally HAVE bought a number of these scenes (I have two LP accounts) just for the fisting but I will be honest, having seen you repeat the same performers I get the feeling you realise you can charge us 4.7 tickets for the privilege of seeing two minutes fisting with the girl on her back and then ANOTHER 4.7 tickets for two more minutes with her in doggy and that has kind of made me feel like I am being taken for a mug.
No-one likes that feeling. I had it also with your regular scenes and fake creampies. To spend 7 or 8 tickets on a scene and then delete it minutes after download AGAIN because I realise your studio is up to it's fakery AGAIN as embarassingly obvious fake cum ruins the crescendo of yet another scene AGAIN and i feel a mug for being conned AGAIN ..... sigh..... ahh whatever. Obviously enough idiots out there, or people who just don't care what they watch, so i don;t blame you really.

Anyway, as long as the remaining sales maximise revenue, I absolutely accept the price is "right" FOR YOU.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
We are at the point that sales are not the only reference anymore.
R.O.I (return of investment) in percentage will start counting lot.
Invest 5000, hold a scene for 3 months to get 1000$ profit
Vs
Invest 500, hold the scene for 10 days to get 500$ profit

To chose what content to shoot will be the game change

I struggle to believe the stats are anything like this, though.

i have followed your work and your comments online since way before you came to LP. I know you have shelved other projects because they weren't making a profit. I followed you here from your first video. I followed your output here AND the comments you have made along the way.

I know, because you have said, that from the start here you turned a profit and that LP revolutionised your porn output because finally there was a model that allowed you to do so.

I know, because you have said, that you were making a profit on scenes back when each scene was half or less as many tickets as they are now and tickets themselves were cheaper to purchase.

I know, because you have said, that you expanded your business here, could afford to hire other people to shoot scenes under your name, could expand to bigger and even more windowless and characterless sets; could start producing multiple scenes per day with you in an executive role. Few porn producers ever make the revenue to do that.

I know, because you have said, that LP has gone from strength to strength with frequent assertions that it has more members buying more scenes than ever before.

So whilst your mathematics is unquestionably reasonable here Giorgio the example you give, where a scene filmed now making many more sales at a far higher price in a ticket "currency" that is itself more expensive to purchase .... that somehow it may take three months to make a 20% return would suggest that three years ago you would have had to be producing videos at a huge and unsustainable loss and to have done so for three or four years unending. I mean I get the logic of your reasoning (and admire the blunt and honest hard-nosed business honesty) but the example you give shouts out "please, pretend you have never read the myriad comments I have made over the years about profit, sales increasing etc"

I'd like to see the models doing the Wonder Toys in their vaginas too.

Sir Noel wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
We are at the point that sales are not the only reference anymore.
R.O.I (return of investment) in percentage will start counting lot.
Invest 5000, hold a scene for 3 months to get 1000$ profit
Vs
Invest 500, hold the scene for 10 days to get 500$ profit

To chose what content to shoot will be the game change

I struggle to believe the stats are anything like this, though.

i have followed your work and your comments online since way before you came to LP. I know you have shelved other projects because they weren't making a profit. I followed you here from your first video. I followed your output here AND the comments you have made along the way.

I know, because you have said, that from the start here you turned a profit and that LP revolutionised your porn output because finally there was a model that allowed you to do so.

I know, because you have said, that you were making a profit on scenes back when each scene was half or less as many tickets as they are now and tickets themselves were cheaper to purchase.

I know, because you have said, that you expanded your business here, could afford to hire other people to shoot scenes under your name, could expand to bigger and even more windowless and characterless sets; could start producing multiple scenes per day with you in an executive role. Few porn producers ever make the revenue to do that.

I know, because you have said, that LP has gone from strength to strength with frequent assertions that it has more members buying more scenes than ever before.

So whilst your mathematics is unquestionably reasonable here Giorgio the example you give, where a scene filmed now making many more sales at a far higher price in a ticket "currency" that is itself more expensive to purchase .... that somehow it may take three months to make a 20% return would suggest that three years ago you would have had to be producing videos at a huge and unsustainable loss and to have done so for three or four years unending. I mean I get the logic of your reasoning (and admire the blunt and honest hard-nosed business honesty) but the example you give shouts out "please, pretend you have never read the myriad comments I have made over the years about profit, sales increasing etc"

The market changes and the strategy have to change accordingly.
The strategy that was profitable 3 years ago, it has been slowly tuned day by day.
Also, changes in the market maybe bring to change your strategy almost totally.
The main point is follow the market and work accordingly, do not stuck with what was good yesterday but every try to understand how you can learn from yesterday and adapt it to tomorrow.

Said that, I produce videos that lose money, several of them. Even knowing the market very well, you can not avoid to make mistakes, but it is from mistakes you learn how to do better.
Stuck on smt because it was good yesterday is not smart, you need every time to assume the market can change when you do not aspect it and be ready for it. This makes the difference and the consequence is to do different that before.
I find it very normal.
We are not driving the market, we are surfing a wave. To keep staying on the wave we need to keep balance accordingly to the wave.
I guess you get me.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

Sir Noel wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
We are at the point that sales are not the only reference anymore.
R.O.I (return of investment) in percentage will start counting lot.
Invest 5000, hold a scene for 3 months to get 1000$ profit
Vs
Invest 500, hold the scene for 10 days to get 500$ profit

To chose what content to shoot will be the game change

I struggle to believe the stats are anything like this, though.

i have followed your work and your comments online since way before you came to LP. I know you have shelved other projects because they weren't making a profit. I followed you here from your first video. I followed your output here AND the comments you have made along the way.

I know, because you have said, that from the start here you turned a profit and that LP revolutionised your porn output because finally there was a model that allowed you to do so.

I know, because you have said, that you were making a profit on scenes back when each scene was half or less as many tickets as they are now and tickets themselves were cheaper to purchase.

I know, because you have said, that you expanded your business here, could afford to hire other people to shoot scenes under your name, could expand to bigger and even more windowless and characterless sets; could start producing multiple scenes per day with you in an executive role. Few porn producers ever make the revenue to do that.

I know, because you have said, that LP has gone from strength to strength with frequent assertions that it has more members buying more scenes than ever before.

So whilst your mathematics is unquestionably reasonable here Giorgio the example you give, where a scene filmed now making many more sales at a far higher price in a ticket "currency" that is itself more expensive to purchase .... that somehow it may take three months to make a 20% return would suggest that three years ago you would have had to be producing videos at a huge and unsustainable loss and to have done so for three or four years unending. I mean I get the logic of your reasoning (and admire the blunt and honest hard-nosed business honesty) but the example you give shouts out "please, pretend you have never read the myriad comments I have made over the years about profit, sales increasing etc"

The market changes and the strategy have to change accordingly.
The strategy that was profitable 3 years ago, it has been slowly tuned day by day.
Also, changes in the market maybe bring to change your strategy almost totally.
The main point is follow the market and work accordingly, do not stuck with what was good yesterday but every try to understand how you can learn from yesterday and adapt it to tomorrow.

Said that, I produce videos that lose money, several of them. Even knowing the market very well, you can not avoid to make mistakes, but it is from mistakes you learn how to do better.
Stuck on smt because it was good yesterday is not smart, you need every time to assume the market can change when you do not aspect it and be ready for it. This makes the difference and the consequence is to do different that before.
I find it very normal.
We are not driving the market, we are surfing a wave. To keep staying on the wave we need to keep balance accordingly to the wave.
I guess you get me.

can u make more dildos like the impaler pls
https://www.thewondertoys.com/products/impaler

more dark evil dildos pls

can u make also a onahole of a spiked vagina or something like that
like a evil vagina or a evil ass

like this

How about furry dildos? Do those even exist? Those would be very cool to see since they are so rare.

Starrio wrote:How about furry dildos? Do those even exist? Those would be very cool to see since they are so rare.

lol

wouldnt the hair be uncomfortable????

a spiked vagina onahole would be the apocalypse

scarletxxx666 wrote:lol

wouldnt the hair be uncomfortable????

I doubt it, maybe just ticklish on insertion, but that's about it, I really would love to see those in action.

The toys are nice, but to show them off properly I'd suggest getting some pro like Siswet or other camgirls who are experienced with toys to give them a proper balls-deep fucking. The Natalie Mars vSnake intro in one of her LP movies in an extended version for example, legendary in itself. Nat is a girl who knows how to play with toys, just like Argendana or HKJ and a plethora of other girls who aren't really famous yet.

I just doubt anyone is going to be willing to pay this kind of ticket money for tip insertions and low-enthusiasm toying.

What about a scene where the dildo diameter is bigger than 10 cm?

Thanks