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According to that Dan Leal guy on his [spam]. Calling for a European wide stop.

Uh oh...

It's real unfortunately. The end of a great career.

DAMN.

sorry to hear that, but he shot a lot of bi scenes I think.

Seems like loads of people getting the clap at the moment. It's probably got more to do with escorting then porn i would bet though.

Does this mean all planned shooting at LP will come to an end, but surely everybody is regularly tested ?

Well, already saw lots of other companies shutting down, guess LP is no different.

This sucks bad.
Any idea how long the shutdown has to be for such a case ?

pastaga wrote:This sucks bad.
Any idea how long the shutdown has to be for such a case ?

Standard procedure is a month I think.

YumYum74 wrote:Standard procedure is a month I think.

Thats a really big blow, also just just syph hazard successfully fought.
I remember some quarrel I had a few weeks ago with Giorgio Grandi about how many scenes is good to have kept in the box for eventual production halts. I opted for minimum 60 days (= 60 scenes), he claimed 30. Some have been published because of the last halt. I really do hope GIO actually does have more than those 30. And gonzo, too!


And Nacho... of course big shit!
And a great career ended!
And worst for his family!

what??
damn!!!
very sad at moment!!
nacho is a amazing performer.
i hope that he keep safe and treat himself appropriately.
hope that no one star get this evil desease.

Read. Use google translate:

https://www.elespanol.com/corazon/famos ... 312_0.html

Basically his mother says he doesnt have HIV.

tekaneo wrote:Read. Use google translate:

https://www.elespanol.com/corazon/famos ... 312_0.html

Basically his mother says he doesnt have HIV.

It is only natural for a mother to say that.....

So what's the deal then?

Alan2008 wrote:

tekaneo wrote:Read. Use google translate:

https://www.elespanol.com/corazon/famos ... 312_0.html

Basically his mother says he doesnt have HIV.

It is only natural for a mother to say that.....

Yeah its normal too that he answers about all of this:

"I have masonry works at work" instead of confirm or deny all... yeah all natural LOL

There needs to be an official statement from those involved. This is too serious to be left out in the open like this.

Also reading an all production stop not for one, but two months. So much unclear as of now, hope there is more certainty soon. But if two months is necessary, then absolutely. Safety above all.

That sucks big time. All the best wishes for Nacho to cope with this and for everyone sake I hope it has not been transmitted to other people.

This is so tragic, I hope and pray that he didn't infect anyone else.

A full stop would be sad but absolutely neccesary, as much as we love porn the healthy of the porn performers must come first!
So a little break to sort this out, then go full throttle with new scenes.

YumYum74 wrote:Also reading an all production stop not for one, but two months.

Where?
And why so long?
Complete production stop looks at this point like a political statement of biz rather.
I mean what needs to be established as soon as possible now is with who he worked with and with whom they worked, than testing and quarantine for those at risk.
Rest of talent after a security shot down of a few weeks can work I'd think. Two months seem like very long. Or am I wrong because of incubation times and large Nacho spread?

http://i-base.info/guides/testing/what-is-the-window-period

95% of those infected will test positive within 4 weeks. It takes 3 months for 99.9% of those infected to test positive.

We are likely looking at a minimum 1 month shutdown. Worst case scenario is 3 months.

IMHO, HIV is exponentially way more serious than syphilis. HIV infection can be treated but not cured whereas Syphilis is easily cured.

I trust XXX and LP will take whatever measures are needed to keep models safe.

https://www.elnacional.cat/en/news/nacho-vidal-hiv-porn-europe-suspended_355017_102_amp.html

So far its 1mt.

This is hardly news. Nacho has been HIV positive since at least 2012-2013, although some rumors have it as early as 2009-2010. It is just now becoming public, but the red flags have been there for a very long time.

He has been doing bareback trannys and bisecual for years, it was bound to happen sooner or later.

vnhaln52 wrote:He has been doing bareback trannys and bisecual for years, it was bound to happen sooner or later.

Some fools think they are invincible. HIV test passed, Darwin test not passed. I hope he can get medical care and current meds can keep him alive - look at Magic Johnson. Poor girls though.

Also, a lot of American girls on LP and shoot in Europe too. This will slow or shut down porn in United States as well I'm afraid.

Alan2008 wrote:but he shot a lot of bi scenes I think.

So what? Nacho has made many, many fantastic scenes in his career. He's one of the all-time greats.

Sad news, although fortunately HIV is not the death sentence it used to be.

Well, first retirements coming in. Was to be expected.

Kira Thorn just announced on her [spam] she's quitting because of this (she hasn't been shooting but guess the scare is enough), and I saw a similar statement (although less definitive) by Linda Sweet as well.

Well it's time to shoot some strap on / big toys insertions content, Jay Sin style, like I suggested before.

shoot with condoms. problem solved

well he was fucking taranns from Brazil over the years not suprise it ends this way... besides when USA has HIV+ they usually stops just for 10 days... they have testing database and better testing technology than in EU... in EU they still use old procedures so thats why production stop will be that long. besides Nacho was abuser who was chocking and trashing girls in every scene. good this woman abuser will be gone now. and dont worry guys... LP seems to love canning scenes so much so normal fans wont see any difference... now u will see all the scenes they canning cuz they have no choose. i personally hate canning. i remember one of the stars here retired and they released her scenes 2 years after that. i think it was Lola Taylor...

assporn wrote:shoot with condoms. problem solved

Not 100%.

Personally I wouldn't buy scenes here with condoms.

YumYum74 wrote:Well, first retirements coming in. Was to be expected.

Kira Thorn just announced on her [spam] she's quitting because of this (she hasn't been shooting but guess the scare is enough), and I saw a similar statement (although less definitive) by Linda Sweet as well.

Saddest day of 2019 so far for me if that is true!
Kira Thorn was tempted to resign before, sure.
So with her temper just this bit was missing. Too sad.The more as its not linked to her at all! - Another case is Linda Sweet who knows herself pretty well she played with fire outside porn.

drevokocur66 wrote:This is hardly news. Nacho has been HIV positive since at least 2012-2013, although some rumors have it as early as 2009-2010. It is just now becoming public, but the red flags have been there for a very long time.

If this is true (which I don't think it could be unless a lot of HIV testing is not good) then there should be a global shutdown until the problem is solved. I think Adriana Chechik just released a scene with Nacho for Dorcel (?).

I am now thinking about the time when August Ames took her life. I think going forward the porn needs to think harder about her concerns. I think there are only 2 possible ways to make it safe for the ladies at least and some people have already come up with one of these on this thread - condoms especially for anal and vaginal. The other is to have binding contracts for the guys with certain studios- and actually LP pretty much do that asI only see most of LP actors shoot only or mainly with LP.

I think the freelance bi guys like Nacho might be high risk. Basically shooting for guys need to be much more controlled for their own good.

Looks like Gonzo is fixing this by shooting in South America again. Luis posted a picture with planes tickets to Cancun, and Lady See posted an instant of her being in Bogota...
Hope the labs are good there.

Alan2008 wrote:

drevokocur66 wrote:This is hardly news. Nacho has been HIV positive since at least 2012-2013, although some rumors have it as early as 2009-2010. It is just now becoming public, but the red flags have been there for a very long time.

If this is true (which I don't think it could be unless a lot of HIV testing is not good) then there should be a global shutdown until the problem is solved. I think Adriana Chechik just released a scene with Nacho for Dorcel (?).

I am now thinking about the time when August Ames took her life. I think going forward the porn needs to think harder about her concerns. I think there are only 2 possible ways to make it safe for the ladies at least and some people have already come up with one of these on this thread - condoms especially for anal and vaginal. The other is to have binding contracts for the guys with certain studios- and actually LP pretty much do that asI only see most of LP actors shoot only or mainly with LP.

I think the freelance bi guys like Nacho might be high risk. Basically shooting for guys need to be much more controlled for their own good.

I think it was around 2013 when Nacho started with the mandatory condom in porn, no anal crusade. That was just a glaring red std flag. Stopped shooting for the most part, and when he did he did condom only. After that he shot in Brazil only, where is is probably easier to mess with the testing. With antiviral cocktails he might have gotten the virus count really low, and figured he won't infect anyone. Who the fuck knows what he was thinking. I am sure will eventually get the details, once the dust settles.

I certainly don't blame porn for this. STDs in porn are from escorting and private sexlife unsafe practices, that get carried over to the set.

some guys are totally irresponsible and think they are invincible but this business is like no other and is based on trusting one another's behaviours.

Poor August Ames was harrassed to death by some politically correct pieces of shit bigots but she was only telling the truth, the guys putting they bare dicks into risky pussies/anus from unregulated countries like Brazil (remember the darren James debacle?) should be red flagged so at least the models know the risks when they accept to shoot with them.

I hope for Nacho this is a false positive and that everybody will be fine him included, but if the stories about him taking absurd risks for himself are true, that makes him a huge piece of garbage for mindlessly putting his peer's health at risk. No excuse for that.

pastaga wrote:Looks like Gonzo is fixing this by shooting in South America again. Luis posted a picture with planes tickets to Cancun, and Lady See posted an instant of her being in Bogota...
Hope the labs are good there.

Are you sure these aren’t from January? I know they were there on holiday then, saw those tweets with the photo of her in Bogota.. As far as I know Lady Dee is in Prague.

Edit: the photo I mean from her in Bogota is tagged Feb 3rd. She’s been shooting (until the shutdown obviously) in Prague between then and now

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I think it was around 2013 when Nacho started with the mandatory condom in porn, no anal crusade. That was just a glaring red std flag. Stopped shooting for the most part, and when he did he did condom only. After that he shot in Brazil only, where is is probably easier to mess with the testing. With antiviral cocktails he might have gotten the virus count really low, and figured he won't infect anyone. Who the fuck knows what he was thinking. I am sure will eventually get the details, once the dust settles.

I certainly don't blame porn for this. STDs in porn are from escorting and private sexlife unsafe practices, that get carried over to the set.[/quote]

I don't think I saw Nacho wearing a condom in his recent LP shoots with Francys Belle, Kristy Black, Anna de Ville etc., ?