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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:05 am

LP is a GangBang/Anal website, tuned down from being mostly a pissing website, remember this.
4 dicks in the ass is actually very different from someone pissing in the mouth of someone else.
Pissing = Degrading = not legal in many country (if you do not agree, deal with it. this is not my personal opinion, but how it is. Czech low is one example)

Wicked, one of the bigger company in the biz, runs a "condom only production" since 2004. Not really a lot of anal, almost no DP, but the company is still buxom.
How is possible? Its just a question of audience.

You can be sarcastic as you like but for what I know the content wont be wet anymore and actually just check out the home page of any other european porn website and find out something better than the home page LP.

Dam,there are none so deaf as those who will not hear.
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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby lubor » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:51 pm

Wicked is just the only big company, who is shooting condom only. Remember old days! VCA, VIVID, Aadam Eve and many others changed "condom-only" production to "condom-optional", because of finansial reasons.

There are no doubts. LP got success because of absolute extreme stuff and no-condom work.

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby lubor » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:14 pm

Performers in USA right now are fighting against mandatory condom use in porn (They are mandatory just in LA yet). Big stars like Anikka Albrite, Chanel Preston, Casey Calvert, Veruca James, James Deen, Mick Blue and for many others have a strict opinion against mandatory condoms in porn.

I recomend to read opinion of Casey Calvert: "Why I Don’t Want Condoms: A Porn Performer’s Perspective!"

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby lubor » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:51 pm

Real porn fans are supporting industry with their own money. They are paying the real money for real porn. Only pirates do not care what they are downloading from the internet. It is very easy to say - I have no problems with condoms ... but not to buy videos. This is not a question about attitude. This is a question about taste. As consumer, if you want to drink whisky, you will not buy the milk! You know milk is not a whisky. If you want to see real porn, you will not buy the educational material of safe sex! Yes. Wicked make condom-only porn. It is a small market, small group of fans, who loves to watch safe sex videos. Last time I bought their video in 1999. What will happen if all the companies are going to have to share this little market? I do not have any friend who would love to watch porn with condoms.
It is big mistake to think, that mandatory condom use will force viewers to buy safe sex videos. No. You will not watch the film, if this film is boring, not interesting for you. You will not eat gruel if it is not your taste. Viewers will find condom-free porn from everywhere. We have our old collections.

Yes of course, it is risky work. Life is full of risks.

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby drevokocur66 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:49 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:LP is a GangBang/Anal website, tuned down from being mostly a pissing website, remember this.
4 dicks in the ass is actually very different from someone pissing in the mouth of someone else.
Pissing = Degrading = not legal in many country (if you do not agree, deal with it. this is not my personal opinion, but how it is. Czech low is one example)

Wicked, one of the bigger company in the biz, runs a "condom only production" since 2004. Not really a lot of anal, almost no DP, but the company is still buxom.
How is possible? Its just a question of audience.

You can be sarcastic as you like but for what I know the content wont be wet anymore and actually just check out the home page of any other european porn website and find out something better than the home page LP.

Dam,there are none so deaf as those who will not hear.



GG, I do not see pissing as degrading, but as an extremely intimate act. I see anal sex the same way, and sperm swallowing as well.
They claim porn is degrading women. Anal sex is degrading... and so on. I do not like degrading anyone, and by no means would I single out women if I did. I do not get my rocks off by misery of others. Never have. I do not view porn as degrading to women or anal sex. If it was, it would have to be equally degrading to men. Porn is fantasy. Everyone has theirs. And last I checked, pissing into mouth of my gf, is not against the law. In public, maybe, but in privacy of my own home, no.


Wicked and Vivid make bulk of their money from soft porn crap sold at the hotels, who have now stopped offering it because internet porn is "free" and abundant.

I just renewed my Brazzers subscription.. 3 years for $199. Even though I could download their stuff for free, I choose to support them because even though the content is iffy, it is worth it at that price. I do the same with Evil Angel, (their stuff is better) and Rocco, but he has now merged with Fame Digital. I never bitched about LPs prices, because the content was fantastic, but I refuse to pay a premium for lack of content. I will spend the remainder of my tickets when I see updates that strike my fancy, but once done I won't purchase more. Besides, I am a minority and my contribution or needs do not matter.

If you become a monthly subscription site, I may reconsider depending on the cost, because this kind of content "can" be found elsewhere, just not as abundant. You want to continue to charge a a hefty premium, make me "want" it.

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby bennko64 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:48 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
bennko64 wrote:
Is it not true tho that lp could have just reduced the amount of pee scenes/Kreme scenes shot, rather than entirely stopping, then you would still see an increase in the number of people buying hardcore scenes and the people who bought pee scenes or Kreme scenes would still be using the site and not complaining about losing the content they used to buy, so the over all buyer numbers would be larger.

Why make the same amount of money when you can make more?


In my opinion: pee in home page deter the mainstream traffic.


You could be right, but I don't think people are that sensitive anymore,
perhaps a few years ago when people didn't have as much easy access to many different types of porn on the net.
Most of today's porn buyers have seen pretty much everything that is available in the porn industry.
I think the majority would just skip passed a few pee scenes rather than finding it offensive enough to not use the site and buy the movies they want.
It's not scat porn or beast porn.. it's just peeing, a common fetish outside of the porn industry.

Anyway the decision was made a long time ago, all the best.
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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby bennko64 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:04 pm

lubor wrote:Performers in USA right now are fighting against mandatory condom use in porn (They are mandatory just in LA yet). Big stars like Anikka Albrite, Chanel Preston, Casey Calvert, Veruca James, James Deen, Mick Blue and for many others have a strict opinion against mandatory condoms in porn.

I recomend to read opinion of Casey Calvert: "Why I Don’t Want Condoms: A Porn Performer’s Perspective!"


Government forcing the use of condoms will make the industry more dangerous in terms of STD's
The reason the government doesn't realize that is because they aren't involved in the porn industry, most of them are old, and they haven't got a clue.

People do not want to watch porn where a guy is wearing a condom, so what will happen is unofficial porn companies will start shooting porn underground (as in not legal)
because there would be a huge market created for porn without condoms, people will want it and will be willing to buy it because they can't get it anywhere else.

Because these companies won't be legal they won't use the official medical set ups, and regular routine industry standard testing for HIV, e.c.t
So more people will contract HIV than they would before the condom law was enforced.

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby magizi877 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:44 am

I'm not an expert on STD's but IMO the laws behind them are probably made up by people who have never had sex with other people, different to their loved ones.
Because if they were more knowledgeable, they would know condoms are more of a birth control thing, rather than a STD prevention tool.

They don't know the truth about STD's

Forcing performers to use condoms is not enough if STDs are really their concern.

Some STDs are spread by merely skin contact. A simple kiss is all that's needed. Yet there is no law or tech that prevents that form of infection.

Semen and vaginal secretions, oral sex and anal sex are how most of the STDs are transmitted.

I was a member at wicked for like 2 hours, (I hated it, lol) the blowjob part is done without a condom. If STD's are the concern, unprotected oral sex would be a no - no.
Because if one of the participants is infected, the disease would spread.
Cumshots must all be fake, because germs use semen as their preferred method to infect other hosts.
If they are not fake, then them using condoms is BULLSHIT.

Most people can tell when the semen is fake. And probably everyone dislikes that. People like the real thing. Not just in porn.

IMO those studios, the ones using condoms rely more on their 'artistic' approach to the sex.
Not gonna lie, I have seen some Marc Dorcel movies, and although I can't understand french, those movies are hot.
Those movies would take porn to the future if they would use big dudes, with thick cocks, no condoms and roughen up the girls, LP style.

That would be epic porn IMO. lol :p

But I digress. Those websites still carry some form of story in their scenes.
The people who buy that, are probably looking mostly for that, eroticism rather than hardcore sex. So the condom, 'safe sex' bullshit doesn't bother them as much.

Forcing condoms upon websites like this one, brazzers, jules, etc. would kill their business because all their fan base are paying for the hardcore part.

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby albertoconr324 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:07 am

visigoth2020111 wrote:http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31331/nikita_bellucci_5on1_slut_punishment_with_dap_dpp_double_pussy_sz1394

what the fuck is this, is this a horror movie that calls for low light settings
today gonzo has help the chart go down
this is pure garbage

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completely agree :(
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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby ritch1485 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:59 am

albertoconr324 wrote:
visigoth2020111 wrote:http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31331/nikita_bellucci_5on1_slut_punishment_with_dap_dpp_double_pussy_sz1394

what the fuck is this, is this a horror movie that calls for low light settings
today gonzo has help the chart go down
this is pure garbage

Albanian mbeturina
Basque zaborrak
Belarusian смецце
Bosnian smeće
Bulgarian боклук
Catalan escombraries
Croatian smeće
Czech odpadky
Danish skrald
Dutch vuilnis
Estonian prügi
Finnish roskat
French ordures
Galician lixo
German Müll
Greek σκουπίδια
Hungarian szemét
Icelandic sorp
Irish truflais
Italian spazzatura
Latvian atkritumi
Lithuanian atliekos
Macedonian ѓубре
Maltese żibel
Norwegian søppel
Polish śmieci
Portuguese lixo
Romanian gunoi
Russian мусор
Serbian смеће
Slovak odpadky
Slovenian smeti
Spanish basura
Swedish sopor
Ukrainian сміття
Welsh garbage
Yiddish מיסט


completely agree :(
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+1

Terrible, who would buy that scene. why make the lighting worse when there are already complaints in this area lol

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby dap-addict » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:18 pm

magizi87 wrote:I'm not an expert on STD's but IMO the laws behind them are probably made up by people who have never had sex with other people, different to their loved ones.
Because if they were more knowledgeable, they would know condoms are more of a birth control thing, rather than a STD prevention tool.

True!
I hope the condom PC witchhunt never ever invades LP discussions!
There were the luckily very short trial condom intros ealy 2015 but it failed comercially as well as with the alleged set goal to bring some new girls to LP.

But anyway, magizi, better have your post answering a recent Giorgio Grandi post on condoms than here!
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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby Magoo8 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:15 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:LP is a GangBang/Anal website, tuned down from being mostly a pissing website, remember this.
4 dicks in the ass is actually very different from someone pissing in the mouth of someone else.
Pissing = Degrading = not legal in many country (if you do not agree, deal with it. this is not my personal opinion, but how it is. Czech low is one example)

Wicked, one of the bigger company in the biz, runs a "condom only production" since 2004. Not really a lot of anal, almost no DP, but the company is still buxom.
How is possible? Its just a question of audience.

You can be sarcastic as you like but for what I know the content wont be wet anymore and actually just check out the home page of any other european porn website and find out something better than the home page LP.

Dam,there are none so deaf as those who will not hear.


I disagree LP was a Gangbang / Anal (DAP) / Cream / Piss / Fist (Double Anal Fisting), website, since Sineplex or Evilutionplex (piss my ass off), now tuned down for Gangbang/ anal/ old scenes, and try to compete in the mainstream porn, lost the essence. LP was "the best ever" Max hardcore and GGG do well but i can count few really nice "pretty" girls in all cast of both, in LP a ton of A level Girls.

In these days my favorites girls disappeared (Lola Taylor, Ariadna, Mea Melone, Magie and more) but still, i think: Arwen Gold (last week in Woodman), Susan Ayn, Belle Claire, Timea Bella, Taylor Sands, Simony Diamond, Ria Sunn and the amazing New Girl Ornella Morgan (last week in Vipissy), I always like to pay for LP stuff, i really enjoy and support, and expect and expected more of the same quality stuff. But the things get complicated, more and more.

Like this: http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31331/n ... ssy_sz1394

NO CREAM, NO PISS, and now NO LIGHTS, next...NO GIRLS, maybe a dick fight in the dark???

Why i can´t see in LP more scenes with: Ornella Morgan and Taylor Sands?

The legal status of pornography differs from one country to another, in some contries all kinds of pornography are prohibited or material on the Internet has been filtered or censored. In others all kinds of porn is OK (the nasty ones)

Everything in media business is about audience, Wicked is a big company, for free on the net!

Now in LP perverts are not welcome

I will wait for your site (no condoms please)

Anyway thank you for your answers i really appreciate your attention ;)

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:48 am

magizi87 wrote:...
Because if they were more knowledgeable, they would know condoms are more of a birth control thing, rather than a STD prevention tool
...


Really? Do you really believe in this?
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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby Magoo8 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:16 pm

visigoth2020111 wrote:we all know this man
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and we all know that even doe he gets good girls his movies are a disaster
but once in a wile he nails something by pure luck i guess.

so it is a shame that this new update resembles WP style and not that of the maker
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31314/b ... lub_sz1387
GONZO is playing the game but loosing bid time
and the camera angles did not help at all
it looks amateurish WP stile
my advise is for ya not to leave the white room at all
this is a fail


+ 1 agree 100%, back to white room! What's happening??? :mad:

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby gapefan » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:59 pm

Those outfits are outstanding! :)

Keep up the great work Giorgio! :cool:

I especially love it when these beautiful babes keep their fishnets on during double anal! :D

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Re: LP keeps going downhill

Postby xxx » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:03 pm

This thread is a mess. If you have a critic make it to the appropriate studio forum.

There is no general "LP". Each studio does their own stuff.

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