where are all the new babes? Where are they gone?

[Pineapples Studio]

I’m just thankful the site is still here, warts and all. You guys need to take a second to appreciate how rare it is for a forum like this to be allowed to exist as well.

[sumacs3]

I’m just thankful the site is still here, warts and all. You guys need to take a second to appreciate how rare it is for a forum like this to be allowed to exist as well.

Hi. Maybe I am clueless, but which site is still here?
I thought this topic was about what happened to all the new babes.
I don't follow. Please clarify. Thanks.

[Pineapples Studio]

I’m not sure why you’re confused. I’m just saying, whatever problems may exist with casting new girls, it’s nice that the platform still exists and the forums are still active. I was just saying it could be a lot worse.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

A lot of the hot new babes are right here at LPAV e.g. Nuria Milan, Lena C, Lucy Mendez etc...

[sumacs3]

I’m not sure why you’re confused. I’m just saying, whatever problems may exist with casting new girls, it’s nice that the platform still exists and the forums are still active. I was just saying it could be a lot worse.

OK, thanks. To give an example of what you indicated by maybe being a lot worse, from a scene standpoint, there is a Br*zz**s scene with Kelly Divine called The Slutmother, and they reduced its length by about half because it contained rougher parts that were no longer PC, whatever PC in porn may mean. I was a member twice.

[Pineapples Studio]

They do this because they face political pressure from credit card companies and payment processors. Ultimately, they have to abide by the wishes of these entities or else they have no way to receive money from their customers.

[sumacs3]

They do this because they face political pressure from credit card companies and payment processors. Ultimately, they have to abide by the wishes of these entities or else they have no way to receive money from their customers.

Thanks, and the customers' wishes do not count, because we customers don't publicly proclaim Injustice and make all the neighbors fear us! I think this fear is also why pornographers hardly ever prosecute pirates, because they themselves like to stay BTS.

[Pineapples Studio]

Gotta face reality on this one. You will never get enough people to congregate in public over their right to purchase extreme pornography. There is absolutely no chance you will ever make your neighbors “fear” you on this issue.

[netzerkaiser]

I’m just thankful the site is still here, warts and all. You guys need to take a second to appreciate how rare it is for a forum like this to be allowed to exist as well.

To be truthful, I'd be happy if whole damned forum closed.

[Pineapples Studio]

Eh.

[netzerkaiser]

Eh.

People grow up. Dirty laundry washed in public. Its simple. You seem like good man - its pretty simple. Back to commenting on ebay stuff. Much simpler.

[Pineapples Studio]

Yeah, I’ve been on both ends of the dirty laundry mudslinging. I’d like to think I’ve grown.

You have to understand, I’ve worked real professional jobs and there is a huge world of difference between the “real world” and the porn world. Professionalism isn’t a fucking word in this industry.

[netzerkaiser]

To be honest most shite i put in here i was drinking, dealing with highly stressful job. I could have been on a football or toy soldier site, or great movie site, it was all the one, a regular guy with a high paying job he still couldn't relate to, talking rubbish on r'n'r... i kinda distance myself from the hardcore element... sure, i love the LP stuff 2012-2017, but its all history. Now i'd never want throw toys out of pram & say please delete all threads i've started or commented on, though others have done it successfully. Its not fair on LP or those that commented on threads subsequently. But to be honest i wish it all now gone.

[netzerkaiser]

Yeah, I’ve been on both ends of the dirty laundry mudslinging. I’d like to think I’ve grown.

You have to understand, I’ve worked real professional jobs and there is a huge world of difference between the “real world” and the porn world. Professionalism isn’t a fucking word in this industry.

I respect you. You were always a decent man in my dealings with you.

Great kudos.

[sumacs3]

Myself I like these types of forums where we get to see all the laundry and try to understand things. I think lots of new psychology texts could be written from all of the sexual preferences we have.

It would be ideal, but inconvenient, if everyone who adds comments were forced to take a comprehensive sobriety test first, I suppose! I think we should be allowed to edit our posts or remove them if we later regret them, but it is the nature of a forum to say something and then hear what others think. And it looks odd if someone has replied to a post that was then later edited or removed.

But to get back to the babes, not only do they have so much control through being their own studio, but that setup can also give customers very specific control over the material the model produces, through custom videos. One way that studios are accommodating this big change is for themselves to offer customs of your favorite studio models. This recent trend is seen here at LPAV and at quite a few other studio-related sites.

[sumacs3]

You have to understand, I’ve worked real professional jobs and there is a huge world of difference between the “real world” and the porn world. Professionalism isn’t a fucking word in this industry.

Here is my summary on the lack of Professionalism in the industry:
I like to order a major custom ever month or so from a model.
By major, I mean one that is likely to be $100-$150.
(There are some girls you can get 5 min customs from for about $15 or less.)
I am going to name names, too. All customs prepaid.
1. Kelly DIvine - ordered a custom early Sept 2023. After each reminder, she says she will do it soon.
2. Lucy Skye - ordered a custom end of Nov 2023 - ditto
3. Katie Cummings - ordered a custom Aug 2023 - said she would do it and didn't - refunded by MV Jan 2024. She did not reply to my new messages. I was a bit lucky as MVids' standard approach was to put the money in my MV wallet (this was a pricey special custom around $280), and not back into my credit card account. I pressed the issue, they refunded, and they now have explicitly added to the policy statement No Refunds.

And of course, all of those models were still releasing fresh purchasable videos online!
Buyer beware.

[Pineapples Studio]

My summary is a lot more colorful than yours but I will never share the details.

[netzerkaiser]

To be honest most shite i put in here i was drinking, dealing with highly stressful job. I could have been on a football or toy soldier site, or great movie site, it was all the one, a regular guy with a high paying job he still couldn't relate to, talking rubbish on r'n'r... i kinda distance myself from the hardcore element... sure, i love the LP stuff 2012-2017, but its all history. Now i'd never want throw toys out of pram & say please delete all threads i've started or commented on, though others have done it successfully. Its not fair on LP or those that commented on threads subsequently. But to be honest i wish it all now gone.

I should qualify this if it sounds disingenuous. What makes a site like this special is that you can & always could, talk about sports, talk about intellectual | philosophical | political | artistic topics if you wished, & also talk about sexuality & porn.
But for example, on a cricket or music site you could never open a thread about jane Darling. Got it? This was the magic. RE: myself I took a career change several months ago that took infinite stress off my life & I really cleaned myself up & realised the preciousness of living one day at a time. Yeah the money isn't the same, but that's nothing to peace of mind & health, & just being happy. Mortgage is almost paid, kids have turned out well, so I'm happy & just want to do with what's left of my productive years helping others & the environment as best I can.

[netzerkaiser]

To be honest most shite i put in here i was drinking, dealing with highly stressful job. I could have been on a football or toy soldier site, or great movie site, it was all the one, a regular guy with a high paying job he still couldn't relate to, talking rubbish on r'n'r... i kinda distance myself from the hardcore element... sure, i love the LP stuff 2012-2017, but its all history. Now i'd never want throw toys out of pram & say please delete all threads i've started or commented on, though others have done it successfully. Its not fair on LP or those that commented on threads subsequently. But to be honest i wish it all now gone.

I should qualify this if it sounds disingenuous. What makes a site like this special is that you can & always could, talk about sports, talk about intellectual | philosophical | political | artistic topics if you wished, & also talk about sexuality & porn.
But for example, on a cricket or music site you could never open a thread about jane Darling. Got it? This was the magic. RE: myself I took a career change several months ago that took infinite stress off my life & I really cleaned myself up & realised the preciousness of living one day at a time. Yeah the money isn't the same, but that's nothing to peace of mind & health, & just being happy. Mortgage is almost paid, kids have turned out well, so I'm happy & just want to do with what's left of my productive years helping others & the environment as best I can.

I do realise however you gotta have put in the years of working & paying off that damned mortgage etc to 'get there'. "My journey" can be no consolation to some late 20's-early 30's guy who's struggling to pay rent with little prospect of ever owning his own home without a fierce uphill struggle (*I'm talking western Europe - I have no knowledge of other arenas). So I apologise if I sound smug, never ever my intention. I'm not like that.

[Jocke]

Netzerkaiser is like the guys prostitutes tell us about, who buy time just to talk. If it works it works but I wish you better options and many friends.
Yes, working the grind in white collar jobs can be very stressful. I got lucky with TSLA and quit. I don't know how you could get both decent pay and decent working conditions. It was UFC all the time.Backstabbing and nepotism. Very little focus on actual business progress.

[netzerkaiser]

Netzerkaiser is like the guys prostitutes tell us about, who buy time just to talk. If it works it works but I wish you better options and many friends.
Yes, working the grind in white collar jobs can be very stressful. I got lucky with TSLA and quit. I don't know how you could get both decent pay and decent working conditions. It was UFC all the time.Backstabbing and nepotism. Very little focus on actual business progress.

Sorry Jocke I take you up on this. You're wrong. Your post is like Kubrick's 'full metal jacket' in that the parts don't add up. In opposite to Kubrick's movie your second part is the better, I agree with much of what you say there. But re: the first part, since I've never ever visited or had anything to do with a prostitute. the analogy is fundamentally wrong. My God, any poor lady that finds herself down that road deserves only my compassion, because unless she's the 1% born for it, it's almost always gonna be external forces to her essence that would put her there, in one form or another.

Plus I don't like the image in my head of a simpering wreck talking like an emasculated pussy to anyone, prostitute or psychiatrist. If I have issues, I talk to my inner reasoning or to what I, in my simplicity, imagine as God.

You're wrong.

[CocosNucifera]

As I'm one of these emasculated pussies who have been paying for years to prostitutes and psychiatrists in order to get listened to, I just want to point out that they, at least, are real and your "god" is not.

If You feel better than me, feel free to feel better.

[sumacs3]

OK. Nothing personal, but maybe we should get back to the topic of Where are the new babes, although it is great everyone gets to air their experiences and feelings, too.
Naturally, I have nothing to add about the babes.

[Pineapples Studio]

As I'm one of these emasculated pussies who have been paying for years to prostitutes and psychiatrists in order to get listened to, I just want to point out that they, at least, are real and your "god" is not.

If You feel better than me, feel free to feel better.

This place needs new babes pronto. Look at how you guys devolve without them.

[sumacs3]

I think it was a very different situation in the mid-late 90's, maybe even early 2000's, when Hungary & Czech Republic were poor, & opportunities in life much less... also at that time many girls had no idea the scenes would live on to such exposure on the internet. I'm sure many just thought that the scenes would disappear on DVD or video & people they knew in the day to day life would never know.

Euro model Mia Mayblack told me this at her OF when I asked about her straponcum videos with Roxie (Wendy Muller). She said that at 18onlygirls (AllFineGirls) they were paid $10 per scene during the Ibiza summer around 2010. And yet they were great scenes, beautiful colors, often outdoors. Straponcum paid $30 per scene, she said, and those scenes were well produced too, many at 50 fps. No wonder Woodman could get some hot girls with his no doubt significantly higher prices!

I would love to see new scenes from older babes who looked very young. Someone like Benta, for instance, who probably will look young to retirement age, not a porn-based retirement age!

Benta as Nicole in I Fucked Her Finally

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[CocosNucifera]

As I'm one of these emasculated pussies who have been paying for years to prostitutes and psychiatrists in order to get listened to, I just want to point out that they, at least, are real and your "god" is not.

If You feel better than me, feel free to feel better.

This place needs new babes pronto. Look at how you guys devolve without them.

You are right. This place needs new babes. We need them. But it will not happen.

The babes have other opportunities. There will never be new babes anymore.

This place is finished. It's time is over. It will slowly die, just as mechanical wrist watches, straight razors or fountain pens.

It's sad. It used to be a very nice place. It featured phenomenal women.

[sumacs3]

The babes have other opportunities. There will never be new babes anymore.
This place is finished. It's time is over.
It will slowly die, just as mechanical wrist watches, straight razors or fountain pens.
It's sad. It used to be a very nice place. It featured phenomenal women.

The voice of Gloom, kind of like the Epic Economist at YT. But thank you for your input Cocos.
One difference is that at least the watches, razors, and pens were replaced with better ones.

I think there is still hope.
This place has increased its diversity of earlier porn videos for a given model.
As a collector, that makes it more attractive.
It is still a unique treasure trove of porn and a great place to talk about it freely.

I think porn up to 2010-2012 flourished as it rode the 480p to 1080p bandwagon.
There was an optimism to it, and lots of Blu-Ray porn was released.
Then as girls began to become their own studios, yes, things changed.
For those who wanted traditional porn, especially multiple guys, good luck from an OF girl.
Those who wanted fetish videos from a favorite model were in heaven.

This whole thing also has been fueled by a cultural shift.
I remember thinking that even Garage Sales peaked around 2010.
After that, many people began to sell their items online.
So I think the recent ability of people to easily do multiple things online is the key.
And the pandemic with its isolation made that habit much more popular.
And now most people seem pretty comfortable with it.

[Pineapples Studio]

You are right. This place needs new babes. We need them. But it will not happen.

The babes have other opportunities. There will never be new babes anymore.

This place is finished. It's time is over. It will slowly die, just as mechanical wrist watches, straight razors or fountain pens.

It's sad. It used to be a very nice place. It featured phenomenal women.

Okay first of all, I was making a joke.

But also, it’s not necessarily the end of the world. AV is facing the same pressures that the rest of the industry is facing. It’s in no worse of a position than anybody else.

[dap-addict]

AV is facing the same pressures that the rest of the industry is facing. It’s in no worse of a position than anybody else.

This thread is nostalgia instigated, but in last 20years economic choices for young especially Eastern European girls got better and we just need to face that.
Russia started to replentish the post-2004 EU accession low in the years after, but now with Russian presidential elections coming up that export talent pool has definitely dried up, too.
New girls are still there, though. But they come from places with a porn-favorable economic basis Hungary and Czech had around the year 2000 and a reasonable level of freedom and less social stigma: The new Hungary and Czech Rep is Colombia and Brasil.

To this we can add the fringes of EU, Czech Rep. still included. But of course we'll have much less new girls from there than 20y ago.

And no, it's not so much sex act and fetish inflicted problem as OP makes us believe because these acts and fetishes pay much better while bringing exactly the same exposure as a dry DP or pussy only. Only solo and g/g is another market, but it always was anyway.

[netzerkaiser]

As I'm one of these emasculated pussies who have been paying for years to prostitutes and psychiatrists in order to get listened to, I just want to point out that they, at least, are real and your "god" is not.

If You feel better than me, feel free to feel better.

Absolutely I don't feel better than you, nor worse than you.

I feel bad if I made you feel bad, I never try to go at anyone personally, unless I have good reason.

I was only trying to defend myself, & in fairness to Jocke I think I overreacted. I read a personal attack there that in hindsight almost certainly wasn't there.

I'm being courteous, I've no feelings on this other than good will to both parties concerned.

Hey, its first day of spring & it was beautiful here. So fresh, so vital, reminded me of this song by Moody Blues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPLWBhNW3FM

[Jocke]

Netzerkaiser is like the guys prostitutes tell us about, who buy time just to talk. If it works it works but I wish you better options and many friends.
Yes, working the grind in white collar jobs can be very stressful. I got lucky with TSLA and quit. I don't know how you could get both decent pay and decent working conditions. It was UFC all the time.Backstabbing and nepotism. Very little focus on actual business progress.

Sorry Jocke I take you up on this. You're wrong. Your post is like Kubrick's 'full metal jacket' in that the parts don't add up. In opposite to Kubrick's movie your second part is the better, I agree with much of what you say there. But re: the first part, since I've never ever visited or had anything to do with a prostitute. the analogy is fundamentally wrong. My God, any poor lady that finds herself down that road deserves only my compassion, because unless she's the 1% born for it, it's almost always gonna be external forces to her essence that would put her there, in one form or another.

Plus I don't like the image in my head of a simpering wreck talking like an emasculated pussy to anyone, prostitute or psychiatrist. If I have issues, I talk to my inner reasoning or to what I, in my simplicity, imagine as God.

You're wrong.

I apologize. I didn't mean that you were visiting prostitutes. What I meant was that you go on a hardcore pornsite but claim you are not really interested and then use the forum when you are drunk to try to have meaningful and healing discussions. This is like those guys who are so lonely that they need to pay a prostitute to have someone to talk to. I wish you friends to talk with instead of us cynic porn abusers on this forum.

[netzerkaiser]

Netzerkaiser is like the guys prostitutes tell us about, who buy time just to talk. If it works it works but I wish you better options and many friends.
Yes, working the grind in white collar jobs can be very stressful. I got lucky with TSLA and quit. I don't know how you could get both decent pay and decent working conditions. It was UFC all the time.Backstabbing and nepotism. Very little focus on actual business progress.

Sorry Jocke I take you up on this. You're wrong. Your post is like Kubrick's 'full metal jacket' in that the parts don't add up. In opposite to Kubrick's movie your second part is the better, I agree with much of what you say there. But re: the first part, since I've never ever visited or had anything to do with a prostitute. the analogy is fundamentally wrong. My God, any poor lady that finds herself down that road deserves only my compassion, because unless she's the 1% born for it, it's almost always gonna be external forces to her essence that would put her there, in one form or another.

Plus I don't like the image in my head of a simpering wreck talking like an emasculated pussy to anyone, prostitute or psychiatrist. If I have issues, I talk to my inner reasoning or to what I, in my simplicity, imagine as God.

You're wrong.

I apologize. I didn't mean that you were visiting prostitutes. What I meant was that you go on a hardcore pornsite but claim you are not really interested and then use the forum when you are drunk to try to have meaningful and healing discussions. This is like those guys who are so lonely that they need to pay a prostitute to have someone to talk to. I wish you friends to talk with instead of us cynic porn abusers on this forum.

No issues there bro. I love your beautiful country. I wish I were there now to be honest. I've been Gotland so many times, lake maleren archipelago - lived there... I'd love or part of me would love to be buried there on Björkö. Sometimes you just get these ancient feelings, like "I came from here". I can't explain bro.

Thanks Jocke. Agnetha said it best. Love to Sverige.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n2gu_MqfOU

[Pineapples Studio]

The loneliness epidemic is real. I can count the number of male friends I see more than once a year on one hand. Women are a lot more willing to maintain friendships, but it’s different. I feel fortunate to have any strong male friendships, because I know plenty of men who have none, so I value them immensely.

[otto1219]

couple of OT things
@Pinapple studios—Are you back producing or is that Cindy Shine Lina Arian video from back when you were producing? I hope you're back, TBC.

@Jocke Another TSLA holder here. Did you completely cash out and when? I am in for a long term, been in since 2019? Do you think Elon will leave? I don't, but not 100% certain of that.

[netzerkaiser]

No issues there bro. I love your beautiful country. I wish I were there now to be honest. I've been Gotland so many times, lake maleren archipelago - lived there... I'd love or part of me would love to be buried there on Björkö. Sometimes you just get these ancient feelings, like "I came from here". I can't explain bro.

Thanks Jocke. Agnetha said it best. Love to Sverige.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n2gu_MqfOU[/quote]

Apologies, I meant Birka, not Björkö.

[netzerkaiser]

The loneliness epidemic is real. I can count the number of male friends I see more than once a year on one hand. Women are a lot more willing to maintain friendships, but it’s different. I feel fortunate to have any strong male friendships, because I know plenty of men who have none, so I value them immensely.

This is a great post, so honest. I have about 10 buddies that fill that category. But I think it's more than that. I think it's the stage where you get to the top of that hill, & you're no longer pushing to get to the top of that hill, but you're there. And you can see the whole journey south that brought you to the top of that hill, & the things you could've done better, & the things you were powerless at that time to do anything different about. And if you can say, well, I did my best, that's good enough I feel.

Then, standing on the top of that same hill, you see the winding down process that comes with mortality, that's the new game... & for anyone Blessed to see it, to be in that position, there's always going to be a loneliness about it... because it's yours alone. It can't be shared.

And that's fine with me.

[netzerkaiser]

The loneliness epidemic is real. I can count the number of male friends I see more than once a year on one hand. Women are a lot more willing to maintain friendships, but it’s different. I feel fortunate to have any strong male friendships, because I know plenty of men who have none, so I value them immensely.

This is a great post, so honest. I have about 10 buddies that fill that category. But I think it's more than that. I think it's the stage where you get to the top of that hill, & you're no longer pushing to get to the top of that hill, but you're there. And you can see the whole journey south that brought you to the top of that hill, & the things you could've done better, & the things you were powerless at that time to do anything different about. And if you can say, well, I did my best, that's good enough I feel.

Then, standing on the top of that same hill, you see the winding down process that comes with mortality, that's the new game... & for anyone Blessed to see it, to be in that position, there's always going to be a loneliness about it... because it's yours alone. It can't be shared.

And that's fine with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFH5JgyZK1I