Kitty Li Arrested at the border in Belgium

[YuriyProneBone]

If you have no arguments then go cry somewhere else.

[jjwhite1985]

This isn't an argument. I'd just rather not have to read batshit conspiracies on a forum meant for chicks and porn.

[YuriyProneBone]

Dude stop crying go away

[Mordecai35]

Quoting The Guardian:

The threat of war in Ukraine is growing. As the unelected government in Kiev declares itself unable to control the rebellion in the country's east, John Kerry brands Russia a rogue state. The US and the European Union step up sanctions against the Kremlin, accusing it of destabilising Ukraine. The White House is reported to be set on a new cold war policy with the aim of turning Russia into a "pariah state".

That might be more explicable if what is going on in eastern Ukraine now were not the mirror image of what took place in Kiev a couple of months ago. Then, it was armed protesters in Maidan Square seizing government buildings and demanding a change of government and constitution. US and European leaders championed the "masked militants" and denounced the elected government for its crackdown, just as they now back the unelected government's use of force against rebels occupying police stations and town halls in cities such as Slavyansk and Donetsk.

"America is with you," Senator John McCain told demonstrators then, standing shoulder to shoulder with the leader of the far-right Svoboda party as the US ambassador haggled with the state department over who would make up the new Ukrainian government.

When the Ukrainian president was replaced by a US-selected administration, in an entirely unconstitutional takeover, politicians such as William Hague brazenly misled parliament about the legality of what had taken place: the imposition of a pro-western government on Russia's most neuralgic and politically divided neighbour.

Putin bit back, taking a leaf out of the US street-protest playbook – even though, as in Kiev, the protests that spread from Crimea to eastern Ukraine evidently have mass support. But what had been a glorious cry for freedom in Kiev became infiltration and insatiable aggression in Sevastopol and Luhansk.

After Crimeans voted overwhelmingly to join Russia, the bulk of the western media abandoned any hint of even-handed coverage. So Putin is now routinely compared to Hitler, while the role of the fascistic right on the streets and in the new Ukrainian regime has been airbrushed out of most reporting as Putinist propaganda.

The reality is that, after two decades of eastward Nato expansion, this crisis was triggered by the west's attempt to pull Ukraine decisively into its orbit and defence structure, via an explicitly anti-Moscow EU association agreement. Its rejection led to the Maidan protests and the installation of an anti-Russian administration – rejected by half the country – that went on to sign the EU and International Monetary Fund agreements regardless.

No Russian government could have acquiesced in such a threat from territory that was at the heart of both Russia and the Soviet Union. Putin's absorption of Crimea and support for the rebellion in eastern Ukraine is clearly defensive, and the red line now drawn: the east of Ukraine, at least, is not going to be swallowed up by Nato or the EU.

But the dangers are also multiplying. Ukraine has shown itself to be barely a functioning state: the former government was unable to clear Maidan, and the western-backed regime is "helpless" against the protests in the Soviet-nostalgic industrial east. For all the talk about the paramilitary "green men" (who turn out to be overwhelmingly Ukrainian), the rebellion also has strong social and democratic demands: who would argue against a referendum on autonomy and elected governors?

Meanwhile, the US and its European allies impose sanctions and dictate terms to Russia and its proteges in Kiev, encouraging the military crackdown on protesters after visits from Joe Biden and the CIA director, John Brennan. But by what right is the US involved at all, incorporating under its strategic umbrella a state that has never been a member of Nato, and whose last elected government came to power on a platform of explicit neutrality? It has none, of course – which is why the Ukraine crisis is seen in such a different light across most of the world. There may be few global takers for Putin's oligarchic conservatism and nationalism, but Russia's counterweight to US imperial expansion is welcomed, from China to Brazil.

In fact, one outcome of the crisis is likely to be a closer alliance between China and Russia, as the US continues its anti-Chinese "pivot" to Asia. And despite growing violence, the cost in lives of Russia's arms-length involvement in Ukraine has so far been minimal compared with any significant western intervention you care to think of for decades.

The risk of civil war is nevertheless growing, and with it the chances of outside powers being drawn into the conflict. Barack Obama has already sent token forces to eastern Europe and is under pressure, both from Republicans and Nato hawks such as Poland, to send many more. Both US and British troops are due to take part in Nato military exercises in Ukraine this summer.

The US and EU have already overplayed their hand in Ukraine. Neither Russia nor the western powers may want to intervene directly, and the Ukrainian prime minister's conjuring up of a third world war presumably isn't authorised by his Washington sponsors. But a century after 1914, the risk of unintended consequences should be obvious enough – as the threat of a return of big-power conflict grows. Pressure for a negotiated end to the crisis is essential.

War mongers and military industrial complex are not the only ones to blame. Open Society Foundations and left ideology is too. In California many kids are getting castrated by becoming transgender before hitting puberty. I live in California, and some parents are proud of displaying their LGBTQ kid as a trophy. You don't see these on other States, so is not that kids in California are different than kids in Idaho or Utah, it's a clear nurture versus nature situation.

Obviously there is nothing wrong with LGBTQ ideology, as long as the person is old enough to make their own decisions, but when it comes to little kids you know it is the environment making the decisions for them because kids don't have identities, and you can make them cultists, religious, atheists, activists, anything you want because they don't have their own critical thinking developed. If the parents oppose to the castration, the kid can be taken away from them.

This is the vision that is intended for the entire world, they want to promote these ideologies for newer generations at a global scale, using tools not just like, music, movies, books, TV shows, etc., but also school themselves, first for population growth control, and second because of the "environment". However for them the end justify the means.

That's not all, part of the ideology is that gang members and street criminals are victims of society, which means they have more rights and protection even if that disregard the rights of law obeying citizens and the police force, first for population growth control, but also for keeping a status quo in terms of people having the ability to develop past a certain point, so they are always dependable of the government and their restrictions.

So keep that in mind. It is not just the war mongers making this happen, it is the entire hegemony wanting to expand.

That's the unspoken reality behind this war. That's what is at stake. This is why when Ukraine wanted peace, the West intervened. As U.S. has claimed publicly already, they are willing to fight to the last Ukrainian. So the solution is rough because there are people routing for both sides, and that's why we are seeing new alliances forming between Russia with China, and the Middle East, and more money is getting poured into weapons for the war.

LOL- you spend too much time on 4chan, apologist.

[petermc934]

Sorry guys but you are mixing the actions of the president of a nation, with the actions of citizen.

The point is simple:
- if Putin is a dictator, so russian citizens are victims and we should welcome them
- if we sanctions normal russian citizens, this means russia is a democracy and so all the western narrative is a nonsense.

That isn’t the point at all. The western narrative is that Russia and its people have illegally invaded a sovereign nation and should therefore be shunned from the international community as a pariah state. No one cares whether it’s a dictatorship or a democracy, people happily did business with Russia before they invaded Ukraine and would do so again if they withdraw from Ukraine and are held accountable for their war crimes. People coming in from Syria are often refused entry into other countries too, don’t hear too many shedding any tears for them being “discriminated against”.

[YuriyProneBone]

LOL- you spend too much time on 4chan, apologist.

Wasn't 4vhan a 2000s site? It sound like you guys don't travel

[Destroyherass]

The way Russian people are treated reminds me of jews in the earliest stages of W02. Absolute disgrace what is happening.

[jpxnoonan]

Sorry you got arrested, that sucks!

When Russia killed the internet I lost access to my favorite camgirl AND we lost all the awesome russian pornstars. It is shitty.

[Vancouver]

The way Russian people are treated reminds me of jews in the earliest stages of W02. Absolute disgrace what is happening.

Denying Visas to innocent Russian citizens sucks; but that is part of the scope of sanctions. They are intended to piss off the populace in hopes they topple Putin. This is not what happened to Jews in early WW2. Good lord.