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Postby dap-addict » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:50 pm

Sir Noel wrote:I don't really understand the complaints about AGO scenes. To read them you would think they had become an anal free zone when the reality is that they simply include pussy AS WELL AS anal.

Problem is not as much pussy sex (DVP, DP) as such, but the unstructured constant orifice changes making it difficult to concentrate on a sex act. Its like a chaotic celebration of no-holes-barred nowadays with a clear inclination to pussy sex over anal.
Also NHB tolerant users are not able anymore to <FF> or skip pussy friendly sex acts like it was always possible in Luis or SOS videos, because orificies change every 20-30seconds in AGO videos. :( :mad:
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:11 pm

Two quick comments:

  1. I prefer scenes with both anal and vaginal penetration but not DVP or DAP.
  2. I don't like scenes with lots of very short sections of penetration, be that to repeatedly show a gape or to swap positions. This sort of approach generally detracts from any chance of the girl getting any real enjoyment from what is going, and for me also kills any sense of intensity as a viewer too. Lest my username lead to confusion, I absolutely do like to see gaping assholes and pussies, ideally more close-up than is most common here, but occasionally after some good fucking rather than every 30 seconds!

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Postby zeusanalfreak299 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:54 pm

Ultra-Gape wrote:Two quick comments:

  1. I prefer scenes with both anal and vaginal penetration but not DVP or DAP.
  2. I don't like scenes with lots of very short sections of penetration, be that to repeatedly show a gape or to swap positions. This sort of approach generally detracts from any chance of the girl getting any real enjoyment from what is going, and for me also kills any sense of intensity as a viewer too. Lest my username lead to confusion, I absolutely do like to see gaping assholes and pussies, ideally more close-up than is most common here, but occasionally after some good fucking rather than every 30 seconds!


I feel your pain! You are not alone! Totally agree!

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Postby davebowman » Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:11 am

Sir Noel wrote:I don't really understand the complaints about AGO scenes. To read them you would think they had become an anal free zone when the reality is that they simply include pussy AS WELL AS anal.

The trouble is every time we're getting pussy action (which to me is very weak vanilla porn) that's cutting down on the amount of anal, which is my main attraction in coming to this site in the first place. And ticket prices are now so high, that scenes have to be perfect for me to buy them - not 75% was good, but 25% was pussy. If studios think there is money in vaginal scenes, then to be honest I'd rather they divided their output, put out some 100% pussy scenes, with nothing but vag, double vag, triple vag, and see if it sells to people with that fetish - that way we'd still get some 100% or 95% anal scenes. Trying to mix everything up together I'm not sure is going to please everyone.

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:46 pm

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Sir Noel wrote:I don't really understand the complaints about AGO scenes. To read them you would think they had become an anal free zone when the reality is that they simply include pussy AS WELL AS anal.

The trouble is every time we're getting pussy action (which to me is very weak vanilla porn) that's cutting down on the amount of anal, which is my main attraction in coming to this site in the first place. And ticket prices are now so high, that scenes have to be perfect for me to buy them - not 75% was good, but 25% was pussy. If studios think there is money in vaginal scenes, then to be honest I'd rather they divided their output, put out some 100% pussy scenes, with nothing but vag, double vag, triple vag, and see if it sells to people with that fetish - that way we'd still get some 100% or 95% anal scenes. Trying to mix everything up together I'm not sure is going to please everyone.


Nothing will ever please everyone, but I don't think you should view that as necessarily the intention of scenes that combine vaginal and anal penetration. As I posted above, I specifically like to see both and I'm certain I'm not alone. Firstly everyone who enjoys seeing 'traditional' DP does! It wouldn't be crazy to think that at least sometimes directors may consider this market.

I watch a wide variety of content including both 100% vaginal and 100% anal scenes. Far more the latter than the former but both can be hot to me given the right models and performance. In either case though I'm always aware that the woman has another wonderful orifice that could be being enjoyed and pleasured but is being neglected. So for me a mix is best :cool: .

I'll add that when penetration is anal-only I like to see the women rubbing their pussies whenever they want to, but I do totally 'get' that many 0% pussy fans don't like even this.

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Postby dap-addict » Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:02 pm

Ultra-Gape wrote:I'll add that when penetration is anal-only I like to see the women rubbing their pussies whenever they want to

+ 1

For me the biggest problem with AGO is that his films last half year turned into a constant, fast paced and pretty chaotic no-holes-barred fuck fest. Thats easier to stage with his old school studs crew for sure, but makes it really difficult for both 0% pussy and 0% anal fans to pick and watch their porn sex fetish.
NHB so far in AVLP tradition was a well structured affair of DP warm-up for DAP and/or DPP. Shooting it demanded a certain discipline from studs, but it was sure healthier for the girls. Result also allowed the non-NHB fans to choose what they needed and <FF> or skip the rest.

But now AGO is so fast paced that it might attract very young porn users with a limited attention span but leaves out all others.

Me, I just started to put AGO on my ignore list. :( :mad: :(
Its something I never planned to do, on the contrary I wanna support new AVLP studios.
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Postby JBird » Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:38 pm

dap-addict wrote:For me the biggest problem with AGO is that his films last half year turned into a constant, fast paced and pretty chaotic no-holes-barred fuck fest. Thats easier to stage with his old school studs crew for sure, but makes it really difficult for both 0% pussy and 0% anal fans to pick and watch their porn sex fetish.
NHB so far in AVLP tradition was a well structured affair of DP warm-up for DAP and/or DPP. Shooting it demanded a certain discipline from studs, but it was sure healthier for the girls. Result also allowed the non-NHB fans to choose what they needed and <FF> or skip the rest.

But now AGO is so fast paced that it might attract very young porn users with a limited attention span but leaves out all others.

Me, I just started to put AGO on my ignore list. :( :mad: :(
Its something I never planned to do, on the contrary I wanna support new AVLP studios.


I agree 100%. Pacing a shoot skilfully, mixing fast sections with slower ones, can be a huge benefit in increasing the feeling of artistry and professionalism. Fillet steak is better than minute steak by anyone's reckoning. This more controlled method of filming also permits focusing on one genre for a reasonable length of time, which is crucial.

So I am no fan of AGO's technique but - and it is a very big but - Kitty Doll88 looks to be linked to the studio now so I will not be able to avoid buying scenes!

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Postby Sir Noel » Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:20 pm

dap-addict wrote:
Ultra-Gape wrote:I'll add that when penetration is anal-only I like to see the women rubbing their pussies whenever they want to

+ 1

For me the biggest problem with AGO is that his films last half year turned into a constant, fast paced and pretty chaotic no-holes-barred fuck fest. Thats easier to stage with his old school studs crew for sure, but makes it really difficult for both 0% pussy and 0% anal fans to pick and watch their porn sex fetish.
NHB so far in AVLP tradition was a well structured affair of DP warm-up for DAP and/or DPP. Shooting it demanded a certain discipline from studs, but it was sure healthier for the girls. Result also allowed the non-NHB fans to choose what they needed and <FF> or skip the rest.

But now AGO is so fast paced that it might attract very young porn users with a limited attention span but leaves out all others.

Me, I just started to put AGO on my ignore list. :( :mad: :(
Its something I never planned to do, on the contrary I wanna support new AVLP studios.


I know you really prefer 0% anal pal,, and that probably accounts for your perspective here, but how in the era of scary looking rectal prolapses.... an actual medical condition, encouraged by fans and filmed and encpuraged by reputable studios - you can dress up your views of including pussy sex as due to health concerns has me spitting out my coffee. I understand you are referring to A2P but I think if long term health of the girls involved is your concern then start elsewhere.

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Postby dap-addict » Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:22 pm

Sir Noel wrote:in the era of scary looking rectal prolapses.... has me spitting out my coffee.

You have to distinguish between controlled rectal prolapse as we have it in porn now for a while and the serious illness of rectal prolapse. I write this as a porn user rather avoiding scenes with prolapse.
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Postby croydonparking » Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:02 am

No resurgence. Just bought latest GG scene and it’s completely unwatchable due to fake creampie to other girls mouth. The scenes from 2016 were mostly real ones it seems everything nowadays is fake, treating us like fucking idiots. The most annoying thing is GG made a lengthy post about how porn is fantasy, justifying fake cream pies. Absolutely ridiculous, I would like to reply at some point explaining this literally destroyed analvids imho. I’ve gone from subscribing for a few years to canceling my subscription and going with other studios to provide much better value and real anal cream pies to other girls mouth, with an entire back catalog of scenes A reasonable monthly fee and 5 to 6 new scenes every week imho 1000% better value than LP

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Postby hjohjole » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:06 pm

Sir Noel wrote:I don't really understand the complaints about AGO scenes. To read them you would think they had become an anal free zone when the reality is that they simply include pussy AS WELL AS anal.


What the fuck do you mean "as well as anal"? That is not good enough!
Would you eat out of a trashcan because there is some food in there as well?

This pussy bullshit was to be expected from Angelo as a director. We could all clearly see the tendencies from him already as a performer.
Every scene every single opportunity he gets he always have to rub the pussy. Putting his hand on it and hiding it from the viewer, so fucking annoying.

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Just look at this shit. Oh no! No one is paying attention to the pussy! Angelo the pussy defender to the rescue!
He is clearly a man on a mission to bring back pussy fucking to anal porn where it does not belong.
It must have been killing him to work for Giorgio, a man that is actually a competent and talented producer of anal pornography, that does not put pussy fucking in every 20 seconds of the movie.

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Postby hjohjole » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:14 pm

Oscar Batty wrote: I can't speak for AGO, I think you can message him and get an answer directly from him. I think you should consider the following : what if the girl does not do and don't want to do anal at all but she is very hot and you still want to give her a chance? I have done this with Luara after she stopped doing anal and Caroleta before getting enough confidence to shoot anal scenes. Another thing, it is a very cheap option with certain girls even in Europe porn, and you have previously mentioned, that NF and PAF are not regularly releasing, I am quite sure, it is more about the finance. It is very hard even when shooting in Brazil to make money.
I don't know if you are talking about a porn scene but maybe this is a way to introduce some girls into the business, after they feel more confortable they might accept to take it at the next level. Do you know that pornbox is like a clipstore? Any approved porn can be sold here.


Sorry Oscar but no. If the girl just need some confidence then you could always put her in the scene doing oral sex. Have her in a scene with another girl that is doing anal and have her perform ATOGM and maybe even some deep throat.
Never vaginal sex. Never ever. If the girl want to have vaginal sex she can have it at home with her boyfriend.

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:22 pm

@hjohjole whilst I obviously get you have a strong personal preference, your apparent outrage can't help but make me smile. How very dare a man even think of touching a woman's pussy in a sexual situation :D .

Genuine question: have you ever had a woman put a finger in your ass while giving you a blowjob? Most men who do find it pleasurable I'd say, with the point being that the combination is more enjoyable than either in isolation. I'm saying this as just because a woman's pussy (especially her clit) may get some attention during anal penetration it doesn't somehow render the latter irrelevant (whether from a guy or her own fingers). The point is to what is happening even more sexually stimulating to the woman. Yes I get the appeal of a woman getting turned on solely from anal stimulation but it's not some sort of absurd crime to go beyond this as well.

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:24 pm

Sorry, meant to say "The point is to MAKE what is happening even more sexually stimulating to the woman."

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Postby Oscar Batty » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:25 pm

croydonparking wrote:No resurgence. Just bought latest GG scene and it’s completely unwatchable due to fake creampie to other girls mouth. The scenes from 2016 were mostly real ones it seems everything nowadays is fake, treating us like fucking idiots. The most annoying thing is GG made a lengthy post about how porn is fantasy, justifying fake cream pies. Absolutely ridiculous, I would like to reply at some point explaining this literally destroyed analvids imho. I’ve gone from subscribing for a few years to canceling my subscription and going with other studios to provide much better value and real anal cream pies to other girls mouth, with an entire back catalog of scenes A reasonable monthly fee and 5 to 6 new scenes every week imho 1000% better value than LP


You might not like it but this is so true. Most things you see in porn, especially on the professional level, is staged. I don't want to go into the details to make it worst. There are some exceptions but I don't even think it is more than 2%. The real thing can be found on amateur porn.

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Postby visigoth2020260 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:26 pm

Ultra-Gape wrote:Sorry, meant to say "The point is to MAKE what is happening even more sexually stimulating to the woman."
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:33 pm

hjohjole wrote:Sorry Oscar but no. If the girl just need some confidence then you could always put her in the scene doing oral sex. Have her in a scene with another girl that is doing anal and have her perform ATOGM and maybe even some deep throat.
Never vaginal sex. Never ever. If the girl want to have vaginal sex she can have it at home with her boyfriend.

Now you're just being ridiculous. You don't have to buy scenes with vaginal sex but suggesting they should never be made is absurd.

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Postby visigoth2020260 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:48 pm

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Ultra-Gape wrote:Sorry, meant to say "The point is to MAKE what is happening even more sexually stimulating to the woman."


Sorry, I hit the wrong button.

Man's only magazine says otherwise, girls are for our pleasure only,
and for us men to have our ways with them,
in my fantasy world, your statement would only have a place in it, if
we were the ones getting paid and the girls watching us watched them, and for sure I would violate that agreement too.

bitches are bitches and will have their pleasure after the ordeal.
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Postby Sir Noel » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:57 pm

Oscar Batty wrote: You might not like it but this is so true. Most things you see in porn, especially on the professional level, is staged. I don't want to go into the details to make it worst. There are some exceptions but I don't even think it is more than 2%. The real thing can be found on amateur porn.



I suspect the hidden "details" are that a lot of visible cumshots are also fake because the performers inject fake cum up their cocks (alongside the fact you all inject pre-scene which i think most of us already know tbh). I have been watching pretty closely the last few years and this seems to be increasingly common. Real ejaculate has an uneven consistency, it is a bit lumpy (typically) and becomes less viscous as time passes. Once you realise what Is going on the fake cumshots are much easier to spot as the "cum" is too "perfect".

Maybe I too am sometimes getting fooled? I would say, judging by the trailer, that the Silvia Soprano scene of yesterday GIO2207 looks real. I suppose the answer is that if you can fool me ... if it is genuinely good enough to pass as real .... then "job done" but the fake cum used most of the time is very easy to spot: it looks like cum has never looked like in the 35 years i have watched porn!
I think this is why some studios prefer creampies is that they feel it looks less obvious. That said, I AM surprised no-one on this forum ever mentions the obvious fake cock-injected-cum facials .... so maybe it really DOES fool nearly everyone as they just don't realise this is possible and a "thing".

But yeh, it is always a massive disincentive to purchase a scene. Everything else in porn being "fake" I have no issue with, from the guys injections to the plots (where women apparently spend their lives permanently prepped for hard anal sex!) to the female "orgasms" etc etc but faking the cumshot is a step too far. It is too fundamental to M-F porn: it is the "proof" of the scene. Sick of the amount of times I watch a trailer and go "ok, looks good..... wow.... oh wow this looks an amazing scene ......... ahh fuck, pretend cum, let's move on"

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Postby number1s » Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:39 pm

croydonparking wrote: it seems everything nowadays is fake, treating us like fucking idiots. The most annoying thing is GG made a lengthy post about how porn is fantasy, justifying fake cream pies.


Much of what GG said in that post was true - yes of course porn is fantasy. But he then used this as an excuse for the faking of creampies. (He also implied that those demanding real creampies were misogynistic). But this was not always the case and we have gone from a position where the cream pies were not faked to one where they invariably are - the customer is just supposed to accept it. The tag says creampie - it should say simulated creampie because it’s faked. At best this is misrepresentation, at worst…..well, something else.

I’m a great believer in voting with your feet so I think it is entirely appropriate for you to cancel your subscription and look elsewhere rather than be treated as a gullible fool here.

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Postby MackZatis » Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:09 pm

dap-addict wrote:
Ultra-Gape wrote:I'll add that when penetration is anal-only I like to see the women rubbing their pussies whenever they want to

+ 1

For me the biggest problem with AGO is that his films last half year turned into a constant, fast paced and pretty chaotic no-holes-barred fuck fest. Thats easier to stage with his old school studs crew for sure, but makes it really difficult for both 0% pussy and 0% anal fans to pick and watch their porn sex fetish.
NHB so far in AVLP tradition was a well structured affair of DP warm-up for DAP and/or DPP. Shooting it demanded a certain discipline from studs, but it was sure healthier for the girls. Result also allowed the non-NHB fans to choose what they needed and <FF> or skip the rest.

But now AGO is so fast paced that it might attract very young porn users with a limited attention span but leaves out all others.

Me, I just started to put AGO on my ignore list. :( :mad: :(
Its something I never planned to do, on the contrary I wanna support new AVLP studios.



At the same time one could say that THIS structured formulatic approach is what lead to the lazy wash, rinse, repeat scenes of today..... Such structure make is feel like a tutorial training video or something. Sex & lust is spontaneous, chaotic, and has no rhyme or reason. It just is. This place has tried to boil it down through algo's & numbers to the SINGLE most financially suscessful "type" of scene and thern only make THAT scene with 10-20 most popular models over & over....
While Gio praises the PB business model, It's also it's BIGGEST fault.

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Postby visigoth2020260 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:58 pm

porn is a fantasy that we viewers think of,
but the ones producing it must take all steps necessary
to make it look as real as possible, fakeness can not abide
as people are watching and the producers will have their rewards.

about the fake creampies, one only has to be realistic, it is impossible to ask for real cum from guys that have done 1000s
of scenes working ...cumming on a daily basis, it is impossible...
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only if GG changes the guys from time to time, for new eager boys,
and that is lots of work and unrealistic, as it implies many dangerous situations, and is very unfair to the male talent.

you guys know me, but right now just right now a great idea has come to my mind, I already know how to make you, real creampie lovers happy....but that is only up to GG to decide.
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how about having guests from the public, friends, or friends of friends
like GGG does but not exactly like that,
now that GG is doing plots, he can do a series, where the guys
abduct, girls from the street and takes them to a friend's house but find a party going on, with no other place to go to, he instructs
the girl to behave or else, now the regular guys fucks her, and all the guests can have their cocks suck and cum on her at the end. just an idea.
but this kind of scene will take time, and maybe 1 to 3 scenes a month,
everyone has to get tested.

as I see it, let's give GG some time, please do not rush him, let's help him master this new episode, by supporting him with ideas as to make everything as real as possible. and do not forget to buy all his scenes, GG is the top producer, when you point something out to him, he might defend his position, but that stays with him and before you know it, there is a solution, and everyone ends up being happy.
I know that the people that were asking for plots and stories back then are now happy as hell, as the years went by and nada, but today find themselves with, way much more than what they saw after.
this man listens to people's complaints.

so far I can mention some studios that do not give a fuck
they rather go out of existence. IV, LTP, VK, NRX just to name a few, but GG listens and makes the repairs,
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Postby visigoth2020260 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:24 pm

All scenes that are been done by GG are top-notch, all his stories are magnificent, given the circumstances of being a recent new thing, and his lighting is the best of them all.
his ideas are far superior to most. as he is always innovating.
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just pause for a second, and imagine all the realistic plots he will make as he masters this new skill, GG is a black belt Master don't fuck with him. :D
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:32 pm

visigoth2020260 wrote:Man's only magazine says otherwise, girls are for our pleasure only,
and for us men to have our ways with them,
in my fantasy world, your statement would only have a place in it, if
we were the ones getting paid and the girls watching us watched them, and for sure I would violate that agreement too.

bitches are bitches and will have their pleasure after the ordeal.


I could say many things in response to this but I'll go with the following. To me it is HUGELY more of a turn-on to watch women (apparently) getting turned on and enjoying sex than to be disinterested participants, particularly given there is generally little to no indication that the male pornstars are getting any real pleasure themselves. It genuinely baffles me should anyone truly feel the opposite. Would you be disappointed if a woman in a strictly 0% pussy scene had an anal orgasm?

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Postby visigoth2020260 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:34 pm

I do perfectly understand, and I like to see them devouring the cocks
as you mention, there is nothing more enjoyable than that,
but I do want to see them acting to the fullest.
I want to see plots as realistic as possible, then after the ordeal, I want to see them as you like, enjoining it all.
............................................................................
GG must be careful, cause once this bitches learn to act and follow the scripts, they will drop him like a brick, is Hollywood time baby.
some of them are already making plans, ...we going Hollywood baby... :D
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is like this 1970s movie I saw.
2 guys in a car drinking and making plans to get laid.
a girl in a mini skirt comes out of a boutique store.
the guys decide to kidnap her.
they got her in the car, she is putting up resistance.
the 2 guys take her to the house, fuck her, cum, and
leave her sprawled on the bed, they go out to get some bears,
and when they return to that house, they find the girl in a nightgown preparing something to eat, after eating, she sucks them off and wants them to fucker again.
now the guys don't know what to do cause the girl is insatiable,
so they go out again and get 2 strangers to help them fuck the girl.
when they arrive home they find her masturbating with a dildo.
now she fucks the 2 new guys and then wants the other 2 guys to fuck her again, to make the story short, the guys decide to get rid of her by dropping her off at the place where they kidnaped her.
and made the car tires squeal as they hit the gas in a rush to get away from that insatiable girl.
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Postby dap-addict » Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:12 am

MackZatis wrote:
dap-addict wrote:
Ultra-Gape wrote:I'll add that when penetration is anal-only I like to see the women rubbing their pussies whenever they want to

+ 1

For me the biggest problem with AGO is that his films last half year turned into a constant, fast paced and pretty chaotic no-holes-barred fuck fest. Thats easier to stage with his old school studs crew for sure, but makes it really difficult for both 0% pussy and 0% anal fans to pick and watch their porn sex fetish.
NHB so far in AVLP tradition was a well structured affair of DP warm-up for DAP and/or DPP. Shooting it demanded a certain discipline from studs, but it was sure healthier for the girls. Result also allowed the non-NHB fans to choose what they needed and <FF> or skip the rest.

But now AGO is so fast paced that it might attract very young porn users with a limited attention span but leaves out all others.

Me, I just started to put AGO on my ignore list. :( :mad: :(
Its something I never planned to do, on the contrary I wanna support new AVLP studios.



At the same time one could say that THIS structured formulatic approach is what lead to the lazy wash, rinse, repeat scenes of today..... Such structure make is feel like a tutorial training video or something. Sex & lust is spontaneous, chaotic, and has no rhyme or reason. It just is. This place has tried to boil it down through algo's & numbers to the SINGLE most financially suscessful "type" of scene and thern only make THAT scene with 10-20 most popular models over & over....
While Gio praises the PB business model, It's also it's BIGGEST fault.

Problem is that AGO isn't dwelling on spontaneous lust, but the same wash, rinse and repeat approach. Every single AGO scene starts the same, runs through same set of positions, end pretty much the same.
Its no lustful alternative he proposes, but only a cheap excuse for an old crew unwilling to concentrate on doing a good job on set. Or as a girl recently working for AGO said: They dont even know and feel the difference between ass and pussy. :)
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Postby visigoth2020260 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:35 am

Problem is that AGO isn't dwelling on spontaneous lust, but the same wash, rinse and repeat approach. Every single AGO scene starts the same, runs through same set of positions, end pretty much the same.
Its no lustful alternative he proposes, but only a cheap excuse for an old crew unwilling to concentrate on doing a good job on set. Or as a girl recently working for AGO said: They dont even know and feel the difference between ass and pussy.


AGS, wants to do the right thing, but I guess he is lost among his prehistory members and fans.
in his forum all, you can read, is, all these dinosaurs asking for paleontology excavations of once GG great past, and praising him like a wild beast,...and AGS is buying into it. that is so sad.
I only own 2 scenes from him, that is how bad it is.
it is not his fault, those dinosaurs are the ones to blame. well, they
are the ones bringing him his food. what can we do?......sooner or later he will wake up from this dream and understand that he has to get his own supporters, no dinosaur supporters.
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Postby azdiddy179 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:18 am

davebowman wrote:
Sir Noel wrote:I don't really understand the complaints about AGO scenes. To read them you would think they had become an anal free zone when the reality is that they simply include pussy AS WELL AS anal.

The trouble is every time we're getting pussy action (which to me is very weak vanilla porn) that's cutting down on the amount of anal, which is my main attraction in coming to this site in the first place. And ticket prices are now so high, that scenes have to be perfect for me to buy them - not 75% was good, but 25% was pussy. If studios think there is money in vaginal scenes, then to be honest I'd rather they divided their output, put out some 100% pussy scenes, with nothing but vag, double vag, triple vag, and see if it sells to people with that fetish - that way we'd still get some 100% or 95% anal scenes. Trying to mix everything up together I'm not sure is going to please everyone.


Yeah I agree with Dave. I did suggest the same thing a few months ago. Just do a zero pussy no piss shoot and then after shoot a DP and all the other vanilla crap. However, I do wish all girls could be like Nicole Black and follow the zero pussy religion.

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Postby davebowman » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:01 am

Sir Noel wrote:I suspect the hidden "details" are that a lot of visible cumshots are also fake because the performers inject fake cum up their cocks (alongside the fact you all inject pre-scene which i think most of us already know tbh). I have been watching pretty closely the last few years and this seems to be increasingly common. Real ejaculate has an uneven consistency, it is a bit lumpy (typically) and becomes less viscous as time passes. Once you realise what Is going on the fake cumshots are much easier to spot as the "cum" is too "perfect".


The fake 'wallpaper paste' cum has become so obvious, I've reached the stage where I think they might as well stop attempting to fake the real thing, and just get creative with it. Bright blue, green, purple - have the guys shoot out a whole rainbow of different coloured goo! :p

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Postby dap-addict » Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:43 pm

Sir Noel wrote:Maybe I too am sometimes getting fooled? I would say, judging by the trailer, that the Silvia Soprano scene of yesterday GIO2207 looks real. I suppose the answer is that if you can fool me ... if it is genuinely good enough to pass as real .... then "job done" but the fake cum used most of the time is very easy to spot: it looks like cum has never looked like in the 35 years i have watched porn!

With about the same porn user experience I'd say 3rd and 5th cumshot are fake for sure.
But the mix looks still good! ;)

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Postby RUShersgapersrises » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:33 pm

I havent read all the posts so I apologize if my response is a bit confusing
Ultra-Gape wrote:Ultimately it is sales that are most going to influence future content.

Nobody should somehow expect all scenes to match their own personal preferences but so long as some scenes do then there is value to being a member here. To what extent anyone will think the site is undergoing some sort of 'resurgence' will clearly very much depend what sort of content they enjoy most.

I do find it annoying having to hide the daily swathe of less premium content from new 'studios' but it's not ultimately going to stop me being a member for the content I do enjoy. I do though worry that this degrading of average quality may put off people new to the site, which would be detrimental to all of us long term.

Basically a reasonable opinion.LP has been moving along a sinusoid in recent years and now we are moving along a downward curve unless we are close to the lowest point.As I already wrote elsewhere,when someone finds content that they like,they should support and praise it,rather than constantly criticize,which unfortunately prevails significantly here.
hjohjole wrote:Newcomer Angelo Godshak have gone from being a disappointment to now actively sabotaging this website by turning it in to a bastion for pussy porn and DVP nonsense.
This is by far the worst thing that could have happened at this point in time. We, now more than ever, really needed a talented European producer to start pumping out exciting new anal pornography on a regular basis again.

AGO was good that he was able to bring some new good CZ models that are sorely lacking,especially Nela.His early scenes was good but the current direction is also not according to my tastes and also I agree that the vids are quite chaotic.

Otherwise,just on the sidelines.I watched some old movies a few days ago,still before LP.what I noticed in particular were "moves" in sex positions to make girls gapes stand out,e.g. a large backward bend at rcg or legs together at doggy (which is also perect at piledriver).Although they are details which arent looked at too much,but which would lead some scenes to absolute perfection.
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:41 pm

RUShersgapersrises wrote:As I already wrote elsewhere,when someone finds content that they like,they should support and praise it,rather than constantly criticize,which unfortunately prevails significantly here.

I agree, and I do try to take the time to highlight good content when I find it. I'd love it if more people would do the same, both as it may lead to me finding good scenes I'd missed and because I think it would generally make this forum a more pleasant place to spend time.

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Postby zeusanalfreak299 » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:27 am

WET_GIRLS_69 wrote:It would be nice if Legalporno could make a brand new separate hardcore girl-girl lesbian sex fetish porn site
;)


No

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Postby visigoth2020260 » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:01 pm

RUShersgapersrises wrote:
As I already wrote elsewhere,when someone finds content that they like,they should support and praise it,rather than constantly criticize, which unfortunately prevails significantly here.

if you stay quiet about the mistakes that one might observe in any given scene, then, we all are in big trouble.
those girls are beautiful and very desirable, but to producers, they are money pigs,.......
these producers are here to make money, simple as that, if you do not, complaints about their bat acting they will continue to be crapy.
if being crapy + with no criticism from buyers makes money why do I have to change?
maybe some of them want to make changes but might be afraid to do so, as crapy is making him money, why would he mess up his income.
there are some studios that have the potential to be powerhouses, but they are, crapy, cause most members go to their forums and start praising them and asking for this and for that, or don't even bother to visit their forums but do buy their crapy content, those making it a living hell for the true connoisseur of porn.
...........................................................................
please do buy all scenes from every studio, but get on their asses to make them produce quality content.
why are some studios chopping heads, while others are into tilting galore, and some dress the girls very nicely from head to high heels, but fail to show them in full at all?.......they dress the girls for themselves and give it to the viewers in parts,
bad lighting and audio go to some.

the producers, (not all), don't give a F they are laughing all the way to the bank with your hard earn money in change for scenes plagued by mistakes.
the money belongs to them but A/V belongs to you. so make the changes, and criticized those, F B till they make the change.
I love them all, and that is why I want them to do better.

I see that most are happy with a B being DAP or TAP and piss to one's heart's content, you are peasants and don't know anything
about the royal blood of porn.
it's just an expression?
my most respect ta y'all,
praise, praise, praise.
criticize, criticize, criticize.
so we can call it even. :D
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Postby dap-addict » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:26 pm

visigoth2020260 wrote:RUShersgapersrises wrote:
As I already wrote elsewhere,when someone finds content that they like,they should support and praise it,rather than constantly criticize, which unfortunately prevails significantly here.


if you stay quiet about the mistakes that one might observe in any given scene, then, we all are in big trouble.
those girls are beautiful and very desirable, but to producers, they are money pigs,.......making it a living hell for the true connoisseur of porn.[/quote]
I agree with visigoth here!
Ofc I want my DAP, but I want it shot as good as possible and also performed as balls deep as possible. Today I bought the new Daniela Garcia DAP from a constantly highly praised studio, their girls are hot indeed, but their presentation with chopped off heads and constant performing in positions that simply wont work out is close to a nightmare. Of course Daniela Garcia saves the scene(s) somehow for me, but ofc I criticized this way of shooting.
Because only from such critics studio can learn and get better.

I would be more restrained with criticizing a girl, especially her looks, because I know from many talks with actresses, how much it hurts them sometimes. Still even here, if acting is unconvincing, or girl looks badly prepared for a certain sex act, its worth tell her that politely IF you take her seriously. Girls like studios can grow, some want just easy money, but many want to be good as well.
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Postby visigoth2020260 » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:47 pm

never criticized the girls.
all girls are beautiful
the ones making or fucking them up are the cameraman and producers
is never their fault, those B are here for the money and will do what it takes to go home loaded, now, if you are a weak producer this B will brake you with speed.
they might even go to sleep or have a few drinks in front of the camera and before you know it, you have to pay cause they are leaving. :D
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:11 pm

visigoth2020260 wrote:if you stay quiet about the mistakes that one might observe in any given scene, then, we all are in big trouble.


Don't discount the fact that people choosing not to buy a scene is feedback in itself, that unlike comments here can't be ignored by producers.

Which is not to say I'm against genuinely constructive criticism and I do try to post such myself at times too.

There is though plenty of unconstructive and inappropriate criticism here. By inappropriate I'm thinking of criticisms of a model's appearance and by unconstructive I'm thinking more of the 'everything is rubbish' type of posts/threads.

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Postby wmazo » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:40 pm

I doubt it. With all the tranny shit this site's been polluting as of late.

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:48 pm

wmazo wrote:With all the tranny shit this site's been polluting as of late.

I'm sure it was discussed above that we don't have scat content here currently...

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:36 am

WET_GIRLS_69 wrote:I actually know where the studio executives of Legalporno live and work, if they don't start shooting hardcore girl-girl lesbian fetish porn sex like me and billions of others have requested on here, there's gonna be some violent protest riots going on soon. :rolleyes: If asking nicely isn't going to do the trick, then maybe something has to be done for real, to finally make some changes on here.


You appear to have extrapolated a tad from pretty much just you to 'billions' there...

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