Anotherfine wrote:Postby giorgiograndi on Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:31 pm
As director at LP I can tell you a simple reason why I do not shoot wet content anymore: according to CZ law degrading a woman is considered a criminal offense. To piss on one girl could be easily considered as degrading and my company is sit in CZ and I live in Cz.
Then, tell me what ever you want about that pissing is not degrading anyone, but then ask to your neighbor, to the butcher and to the grocer what they think. I do not really want to get involved in questionable situations.
The management of LP gave this rule last year without to specify any special reason, so I asked to my lawyer to investigated, his report was very clear. Also the company that run LP is sit in Cz, so this is the main reason IMHO
Then, in CZ there is a long "pissing history", its crazy that for most the girl in Cz is more easy to shoot pissing then anal (which is ridiculous IMHO)
Personally I think pissing is a huge limitation for any website. Its true that pissing attracts a niche of fans, but is also true that for most of people pissing is disgusting and would limit LP to growth on long term.
Pissing content are easy and fast money, but it can be risky for a big site/company/structure like LP e CO.
LP is the best anal website of the word, there are no doubts about this, if you like anal on LP you find what you wish. On the other side is very expensive, but the production cost of the daily releases at LP its average what the others Euro Website invest for create the updates of one full month.
Without to count how much scenes a model can perform at LP in long term, most of other website shoot a model 1/2 time and thats it. At LP a good model can shoot more then one scene/month in average for years.
Anotherfine wrote:Postby giorgiograndi on Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:31 pm
As director at LP I can tell you a simple reason why I do not shoot wet content anymore: according to CZ law degrading a woman is considered a criminal offense. To piss on one girl could be easily considered as degrading and my company is sit in CZ and I live in Cz.
Then, tell me what ever you want about that pissing is not degrading anyone, but then ask to your neighbor, to the butcher and to the grocer what they think. I do not really want to get involved in questionable situations.
The management of LP gave this rule last year without to specify any special reason, so I asked to my lawyer to investigated, his report was very clear. Also the company that run LP is sit in Cz, so this is the main reason IMHO
Then, in CZ there is a long "pissing history", its crazy that for most the girl in Cz is more easy to shoot pissing then anal (which is ridiculous IMHO)
Personally I think pissing is a huge limitation for any website. Its true that pissing attracts a niche of fans, but is also true that for most of people pissing is disgusting and would limit LP to growth on long term.
Pissing content are easy and fast money, but it can be risky for a big site/company/structure like LP e CO.
LP is the best anal website of the word, there are no doubts about this, if you like anal on LP you find what you wish. On the other side is very expensive, but the production cost of the daily releases at LP its average what the others Euro Website invest for create the updates of one full month.
Without to count how much scenes a model can perform at LP in long term, most of other website shoot a model 1/2 time and thats it. At LP a good model can shoot more then one scene/month in average for years.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2016/09
Tina and Rossella "piss" is not eve in the top 15 of september, that tells you how users on LP are very different then 1 year before.
LP does great without piss, there are no doubts. xxx has made a difficult decision, but he did right. Without piss LP is growing more and better.
You can argue how much you want, but according to CZ law a 10 man gangbang is not consider as degrading as pissing, I do not really see the problem.
You should read this about Obscenity in USA, https://www questia com/library/journal/1P3-2922254891/obscene-squirting-if-the-government-thinks-it-s-urine. In USA a 10 man gang bang is allowed and pissing is not.
About the scene with Francys, well she claim that she squirts... I believe her and I do not ask questions. The reason why it sells if not because its a °wet scene°, but just because its a great scene.
I did not claimed any logic, I simply explained the facts, I can also tell you that truly for me sales are better then before (with pee), so thanks good we do not have pissing anymore.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2016/09
Tina and Rossella "piss" is not eve in the top 15 of september, that tells you how users on LP are very different then 1 year before.
LP does great without piss, there are no doubts. xxx has made a difficult decision, but he did right. Without piss LP is growing more and better.
You can argue how much you want, but according to CZ law a 10 man gangbang is not consider as degrading as pissing, I do not really see the problem.
You should read this about Obscenity in USA, https://www questia com/library/journal/1P3-2922254891/obscene-squirting-if-the-government-thinks-it-s-urine. In USA a 10 man gang bang is allowed and pissing is not.
About the scene with Francys, well she claim that she squirts... I believe her and I do not ask questions. The reason why it sells if not because its a °wet scene°, but just because its a great scene.
I did not claimed any logic, I simply explained the facts, I can also tell you that truly for me sales are better then before (with pee), so thanks good we do not have pissing anymore.
rollin_dubs187 wrote: A. You dont allow piss content to be downloaded in the USA, so your argument about piss not being popular is invalid.
Pissing wrote:rollin_dubs187 wrote: A. You dont allow piss content to be downloaded in the USA, so your argument about piss not being popular is invalid.
That is so right !
LP, xx, GG, they manipulate the bestsellers list, ban piss content from selling in the USA, release an old scene with mid-level girls, and then say "it wasn't in the top 15"
Who is GG trying to fool ???
I did not buy the recently released Piss scene because it just wasn't good quality: mid level girls who I have seen many times already.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2016/09
Tina and Rossella "piss" is not eve in the top 15 of september, that tells you how users on LP are very different then 1 year before.
LP does great without piss, there are no doubts. xxx has made a difficult decision, but he did right. Without piss LP is growing more and better.
You can argue how much you want, but according to CZ law a 10 man gangbang is not consider as degrading as pissing, I do not really see the problem.
You should read this about Obscenity in USA, https://www questia com/library/journal/1P3-2922254891/obscene-squirting-if-the-government-thinks-it-s-urine. In USA a 10 man gang bang is allowed and pissing is not.
About the scene with Francys, well she claim that she squirts... I believe her and I do not ask questions. The reason why it sells if not because its a °wet scene°, but just because its a great scene.
I did not claimed any logic, I simply explained the facts, I can also tell you that truly for me sales are better then before (with pee), so thanks good we do not have pissing anymore.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:About the scene with Francys, well she claim that she squirts... I believe her and I do not ask questions. The reason why it sells if not because its a °wet scene°, but just because its a great scene.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2016/09
Tina and Rossella "piss" is not eve in the top 15 of september, that tells you how users on LP are very different then 1 year before.
LP does great without piss, there are no doubts. xxx has made a difficult decision, but he did right. Without piss LP is growing more and better.
You can argue how much you want, but according to CZ law a 10 man gangbang is not consider as degrading as pissing, I do not really see the problem.
You should read this about Obscenity in USA, https://www questia com/library/journal/1P3-2922254891/obscene-squirting-if-the-government-thinks-it-s-urine. In USA a 10 man gang bang is allowed and pissing is not.
About the scene with Francys, well she claim that she squirts... I believe her and I do not ask questions. The reason why it sells if not because its a °wet scene°, but just because its a great scene.
I did not claimed any logic, I simply explained the facts, I can also tell you that truly for me sales are better then before (with pee), so thanks good we do not have pissing anymore.
leroisoleil83 wrote:@Rollin Dubs - dude... you're so angry. But why? Calm down. It's porn. Not worth all the agitation. I wish more people realized this. It's how porn is - it's available not stop, and if you can't get what you want in one place than you can certainly get it another. So again - calm down. And if you want to see piss than fine. Just get it somewhere else if it's not available here. There are plenty of niches that I'm into that I get elsewhere. So really, everyone (not just RollinDubs) get your fix wherever you have to get it. Why stay so mad at the site, or at one director? Geez. It's interesting how pissed people get over something as silly as pornography, haha. I'll admit it sometimes makes me pensive (which it probably shouldn't), but never angry, as many seem here.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2016/09
Tina and Rossella "piss" is not eve in the top 15 of september, that tells you how users on LP are very different then 1 year before.
LP does great without piss, there are no doubts. xxx has made a difficult decision, but he did right. Without piss LP is growing more and better.
You can argue how much you want, but according to CZ law a 10 man gangbang is not consider as degrading as pissing, I do not really see the problem.
You should read this about Obscenity in USA, https://www questia com/library/journal/1P3-2922254891/obscene-squirting-if-the-government-thinks-it-s-urine. In USA a 10 man gang bang is allowed and pissing is not.
About the scene with Francys, well she claim that she squirts... I believe her and I do not ask questions. The reason why it sells if not because its a °wet scene°, but just because its a great scene.
I did not claimed any logic, I simply explained the facts, I can also tell you that truly for me sales are better then before (with pee), so thanks good we do not have pissing anymore.
rollin_dubs187 wrote:Dude shut the fuck up. You think I care what you think? Opionions are like assholes and yours smells like shit. I am not angry. I just call out bullshit when I see it. If you can tell me one website that has piss scenes in rhe same fashion as this site did, I am all ears. Problem is it doesnt exist. I just dont get why the censorship. And why do you care? Really why?
leroisoleil83 wrote:rollin_dubs187 wrote:Dude shut the fuck up. You think I care what you think? Opionions are like assholes and yours smells like shit. I am not angry. I just call out bullshit when I see it. If you can tell me one website that has piss scenes in rhe same fashion as this site did, I am all ears. Problem is it doesnt exist. I just dont get why the censorship. And why do you care? Really why?
Well, you obviously care enough to leave a seemingly livid reply, haha. And I'm not going to do porn research for you, sorry, buddy. But if people are into it, rest assured it exists somewhere, probably in multiple forms - that's just how porn is, very widespread, very prolific. Btw, you're rants don't come across as calling anything out, they more seem to be rants against one specific director that for whatever reason you have taken a personal vendetta against. (shrugs - I doubt he cares any more, and neither do most). And countless people have tried to explain the censorship, it's just some people don't want to understand, or simply don't agree so want to continue with the complaints. And I really don't care that much, just thought I'd leave a suggestion to some about other options other than continuing to bitch and moan, which IMO has gone on for too long at this point. Reading some of the thoughts people leave one would think this is the only porn site on the net.
Bjergmand wrote:Let's just accept that pissing isn't coming back to LP (which is a disaster). There's still decent producers like GGG. I just hope that the niche don't die out completely.
teammelee15 wrote:At the very least they could compromise with just the ladies pissing on each other/swallowing it. Like the Francys Belle & Ginger Fox scene. Which was AMAZING. I actually bought it for the first time buying a scene in 6 months.
drevokocur66 wrote:teammelee15 wrote:At the very least they could compromise with just the ladies pissing on each other/swallowing it. Like the Francys Belle & Ginger Fox scene. Which was AMAZING. I actually bought it for the first time buying a scene in 6 months.
LP is shunning the old LP customers in favor of new "softer" crowd. Somewhere in the future the main attraction of porn here at LP will be the story line, excellent jokes and superb writing, while the performers gently touch each other with surgical gloves and of course no kissing allowed because it is not safe.
10 years ago Sasha Grey drinks a gallon of piss in Squirt Gangbang (USA), the future of LP maybe a softporn or a cuckold scenes with condoms
deanob73 wrote:My 2 cents worth. My two favorite niches are DAP and Piss.
I really do miss the piss, BUT the increase in DAP production essentially makes up for it for me.
I won't lie though, if new piss scene was shot and sold with one of the stunning teens on LP, it would be an instant buy.
laura. wrote:^
When you know Charlotte Satre is into it, then I am inclined to agree. That would be something special to watch.
I tend not to get involved in the piss debates, as much as I loved it arguing for its reinstallation is ultimately futile. Still I can't help think how amazing it would be to watch some of the piss friendly performers try it LP style. Jessi and Ornella etc. I also wonder if some other performers like Crstal or Ria would do it if it was still around.
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xmal-fuckland wrote:deanob73 wrote:My 2 cents worth. My two favorite niches are DAP and Piss.
I really do miss the piss, BUT the increase in DAP production essentially makes up for it for me.
I won't lie though, if new piss scene was shot and sold with one of the stunning teens on LP, it would be an instant buy.laura. wrote:^
When you know Charlotte Satre is into it, then I am inclined to agree. That would be something special to watch.
I tend not to get involved in the piss debates, as much as I loved it arguing for its reinstallation is ultimately futile. Still I can't help think how amazing it would be to watch some of the piss friendly performers try it LP style. Jessi and Ornella etc. I also wonder if some other performers like Crstal or Ria would do it if it was still around.
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same as, and anyone else who said they were very pro-piss but have accepted that the decision has clearly been made and is being strictly stuck to. and accept that noises off, whining and dead-end debate are unlikely to influence that decision.
i love piss in porn when it is done well and the models are gorgeous and clearly into it. I recently rewatched and commented about how much i loved olivia's amazing pmao sz768. that is one of the all time great piss scenes, ever. let alone at LP. when LP did piss, they did it better than anyone else, so i do know understand why so many are struggling to get over it. I sympathise with that loss. vip pissy is lightweight and ggg seems a bit cheap and badly lit for my tastes (though some go for that underground feel).
i miss top quality LP piss scenes like fuck, and would love to see them back (tickets ready), but it's already been a long time banned and the longer that ban goes on the clearer the message becomes that is is not going to return anytime soon.
piss people said that the site would fall without it, but LP's popularity seems to be increasing with the ban. and a lot of those that are petitioning for its reinstatement are those that said this time last year that they would leave if it wasn't reinstated. clearly you didn't go. and the more you threaten to go and then don't, the more hollow your arguments and threats appear. it gets kind of ridiculous.
if sales fall it might come back, but they are rising. if large numbers of subscribers walk it might come back, but they don't walk. so no real reason for any change of heart at HQ.
it's a shame (in my opinion) but it is what it is. and there is more than enough going on at LP for it not to be a deal-breaker for me. how many daps do LP shoot a week? and who's the competition for that? exactly no one.
maybe therein lies the greatest hope for a return to piss at LP. if 21st sextury, jules jordan, and other mainstreamers (no piss pun intended) start shooting daps then LP may loose business to them. they have compensated for piss with daps, which they can get away with as long as no one else is doing daps. but if the mainstream goes dap where can LP go to stop bleeding business to them? it may well be back to piss, tried and trusted money-spinner, which is still a mainstream no go and likely to remain so longer than daps. but no pressure at present and if it comes it will be gradual, not overnight.
so there is some hope. but it will only be market pressure, and not a 'constant flow' of 'we want piss' threads, that brings it back to LP if it ever comes back.
a far more likely scenario will be that a new site steals LPs high quality piss scene formula for it own. I think it will be soon.
i just clicked to check olivia and arwen's piss scene sales figures and noticed arwen's pmao has almost three million views (and olivia 350k, still big sales but should be much higher as it is a mighty scene. her other piss scenes also 350k approx).
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/29862/a ... _off_rs073
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/29581/o ... _pee_sz768
enough to say that those figures promise potentially 'overwhelming sales' for any company out there who can match LP's standards for piss scenes with similarly hot models. an opportunity for someone to clean up. kickstarter anyone?
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