Full HD 1080p Downloads

[GonzoLover]

Great, FINALLY
As stream and download?
Also the pics in better quality?

[shark1]

If the 1080p scenes are not encoded at at LEAST 8000 kbps they will be a waste of time and not worth the download. Preferably 12000 kbps like Brazzers, Asstraffic and others, but 8000 kbps minimum.

[GonzoLover]

You mean the Bitrate yes?
I just heared this yesterday night from an prod that the camera quality isn´t so important, more how you upload it with which bitrate, the higher this rate the better the quality, have download a lot of ZZ scenes in the last few days but only in HD 720p because 1,8-2,5 GB for an scene is enough because the hard drives getting full too fast and of course the HD quality is so great like the 21sextury Full HD quality I would say (Full HD file have approx 700-900 MB), the Full HD 1080p videos have an size of 3-4 GB, the PG scenes in Full HD up till 5,5 GB.

An ZZ prod from the USA told me that an Full HD video have always such an great size if the bitrate is well and it´s really shoot in full HD.

I attach some screenshots, best is at PG to see the bitrate and size of the video.

[magizi877]

I think the Hard drive "problem" can either be solved by just throwing money at it, which comes and goes anyway.

Or by just keeping the scenes you actually go back to watch again and delete all the others that are really just occupying valuable space.

Also the price for a good hard drive is around the same price as a 3 month plan on LP, so if you can afford the porn, you sure can afford a new HD.

So stop complaining and let them offer us 1080p or GTFO.

[Tastes Like Ass]

The 720p scenes already take too long to download (even with a pretty fast Internet connection), and take up 2.6 TB of my hard drive space (and before anyone tells me to get more hard drive space, I've already got 18 TB, and 16 of them are full).

Having said that, I don't mind if they want to offer 1080p, as long as they also continue to offer 720p as well.

[GonzoLover]

I think the Hard drive "problem" can either be solved by just throwing money at it, which comes and goes anyway.

Or by just keeping the scenes you actually go back to watch again and delete all the others that are really just occupying valuable space.

Also the price for a good hard drive is around the same price as a 3 month plan on LP, so if you can afford the porn, you sure can afford a new HD.

So stop complaining and let them offer us 1080p or GTFO.

You not understand man!
Of course I want teh 1080p download and streams, streams not really because I´m tired of this PirnBox system.
An 3TB Hard Drive cost approx 90-100€, I´ve 10 TB Hard Drives full of XXX content, sure I´ll not delete my collection and the good old porn of the golden time with the great superstars which will never come back again.
Like I said thousand times, the whole site needs a new design and new programming and no more ticket system resp. ticket/coin/credit system and memberships 1-3-12 months with unlimited downloads, all would like this and LP would get still more mebers and payment offer also with direct debit and bank wire etc.

[gongobyte]

Seriously people complaining about higher res... Just think SD stuff looked great before HD came out... now see how blurry it is. Think to the future.. in five years time 720p will seem much more blurry and pixelated than 1080p or higher.

One method I use to save space is to edit scenes as I watch them, deleting all the parts I don't like, then resave them. 40 min scenes usually end up 10 min or shorter with a match smaller file to store. The other big benefit is I end up with a collection of what I call "hands free experience" Can set up a playlist and don't have to constantly stop what I am doing to fast forward past boring parts.

[Sir Noel]

Gonzolover, I cancelled from 21Sextury on the grounds of picture quality a year or so ago so I can't agree with you thet their bitrates are always good enough. Their scenes seem okay as long as everyone keeps moving slowly but you start to get a lot of digital noise/artifacts if anyone starts thrusting fast!
Maybe they have improved in the last year but cartainly prior to that I found myself downlaoding 90% of scenes I got from them because the picture was too noisy.

[eknbb2]

Great news; Petr on site admin has confirmed that LP are working to finally get 1080p HD scenes! Long overdue but it's finally happening...

Omg, are you serious?....I didn't think I'd live to see it happen....

[pastaga]

Like I said thousand times, the whole site needs a new design and new programming and no more ticket system resp. ticket/coin/credit system and memberships 1-3-12 months with unlimited downloads, all would like this and LP would get still more mebers and payment offer also with direct debit and bank wire etc.

Please no.
If they do that I'd quit. The ticket system is the strong point of LP. I (and a lot f customers I think) don't want to pay for more than I want. More than one I have finished the month with some tickets left. And every time I join I cancel the recurring bill, to be sure not to spend more than I need...
With a monthly system people can also join for a month every year only and download all the scenes they want. The only unlimited thing that could be cool would be, in addition to the ticket system, an unlimited membership for a year for like 150-200€. But I'm not sure it would have a lot of succes.

1080p scenes are a cool improvement then, but I think I'll stay with 720p download till my internet speed stays low... Or maybe only for my favorites scenes only.

[shark1]

Always hate when people complain about 1080P file sizes because they don't want to buy another hard drive! Then stick to 720P scenes and you lose the right to bitch about not having 1080P scenes!

You want FullHD scenes, but absolute crap quality so you can fit more unwatchable 1080P scenes on your hard drive! Lunacy!!

I would MUCH rather have great quality 1080P scenes, so bitrate is VERY important, and I don't mind buying another hard drive because I have a job :-)

[shark1]

Gonzolover, I cancelled from 21Sextury on the grounds of picture quality a year or so ago so I can't agree with you thet their bitrates are always good enough. Their scenes seem okay as long as everyone keeps moving slowly but you start to get a lot of digital noise/artifacts if anyone starts thrusting fast!
Maybe they have improved in the last year but cartainly prior to that I found myself downlaoding 90% of scenes I got from them because the picture was too noisy.

21sextury 1080P scenes are absolute garbage because they are encoded at 6000 kbps. Any fast action gets grainy. I wouldn't download their scenes for free anymore!

[drevokocur66]

+1 on 1080p, pissing in UHD

[FunkyF836]

1080p 1+
4k 1+++

[germanporn]

Please quality like this ..

http://downloads.legalporno.com/SOS_43-trailer.mp4

14,8 Mbps looks so great :-) in 1080p

what you think?

[s.dant]

I have DL some scene in 1080p yes it's a good thing but not for all DL 1080p take too place in disk !

[twistedvincent]

Since the last we heard from LP admin on this topic was "were working on it" in July 2015 does this mean it's a dead issue. I used to make fun of BangBros and Dogfart for their lack of 1080p but even THEY'RE on the bandwagon.

Plus I just read @ http://www.adultdvdtalk.com/ that LP is the BIGGEST porn company in Europe the same people and also own XVideos. Basically they're the Euro-Brazzers.

So there's no excuse.

[slut_lover]

I have just read through this whole thread and noticed that nobody has mentioned HEVC/H265. So I think I could move this thread along with some explanation.

High Efficiency Video Codec - HEVC - is the next generation of video encoding. This is H265. This is what the broadcast industry will be using so that they can fit UHD (4K) into existing HD transmission channels, or at least channels that are not hugely bigger than the present HD channels. Astra already has experimental UHD transmissions using HEVC. Any 4K/UHD TV set that you buy today can already decode HEVC. It's coming fast.

This means that the posters who figure the files would be too big at 4K are wrong. This new codec would even allow current 720p file sizes to be reduced in size, although there would be little benefit in doing that. Of course there is a kicker; the decoding needs serious computing power. Recent new drivers for my nVideo GTX770 mean that I now can playback HEVC/4k content on my PC but it leverages the CPU to do that. To get hardware decoding I will need to replace this with a GTX 960, but as always happens in the high tech industry the prices are dropping rapidly and progressive porn companies are already releasing content with full 4K res using the HEVC.

I don't think that anybody would be suggesting that ONLY 4K content would be available! It would be something that LP would add to their current offerings of VGA and 720p. So 1080p/HEVC and 4K/HEVC should be offered and if members don't have a powerful enough computer to decode the content smoothly, or fast enough broadband connection, they could continue to download the 720p version.

So if you are saving your pennies to buy a system that will be able to play the next generation of 4K porn then it needs to be able to decode 4K/HEVC in hardware. A gamer PC with an nVidia GTX 960 and a Dell 32" Ultra HD/4K monitor is the perfect setup today. Although I can play back 4K now with my GTX770 you can hear the CPU fan wind up like a turbine during the decoding, so I am planning to replace it with a GTX960 as soon as enough 4K content justifies it.

The bottom line: 4K/HEVC porn is now available so LP need to up their game otherwise they could find that technology has pushed them into the shadows, and they are struggling to catch up on a reducing revenue stream; a common story when one depends on high tech for ones business model.

[twistedvincent]

^ Shit, don't hold you're breath waiting for 4k on LP.

[gapefan]

LegalPorno has already been shooting in 4K for a year now

If memory serves me correctly, Sineplex made the switch in December 2014 and Gonzo.com made the switch in January 2015

I'm not sure about Giorgio.

[twistedvincent]

Then why the fuck aren't they offering it for download ... or 1080p yet for that matter??!

[gapefan]

I'm sure they will at some point.

It's not a matter of 'if', but 'when'.

[twistedvincent]

I can't imagine what the hold up could be considering the fact that between XVideos, Xnxx and LP they most definitely have the $$ to upgrade servers or whatever the hell they need to do.

I can almost guarantee LP will jack up the prices/# of tickets to download them though. I hope I'm wrong.

[slut_lover]

But it’s not only the technology that has to be upgraded, but so have the directors’ brains. I have just been watching a double penetration scene shot at 4K and played back on my system at 4k and the quality is stunning. BUT when the director moves in close for a shot of the “action” it’s about as erotic as watching the tide come in. If you are interested in being able to map out the vein structure on the guy’s cock then I guess it fits the bill but if you are looking for eroticism then forget it! The LP directors will need retraining. Some more than others. The directors who seem to enjoy being close enough to give the talent a blow job need the most retraining.

The fundamental law of TV production is “let the talent do the work, not the camera.”

I joined Legal Porno because I like the stuff they produce; multiple-guys on one slut, DP, manhandling, face slapping, hard porn… . I particularly like to see enthusiastic sluts like Rose Valerie who give lots of eye contact through the production. However, some of the camera work in porn today drives me crazy.

Some camera operators, and I assume that in most cases this is also the director, seem as though they are more excited than the talent! They rush around like loonies never stopping to let us get a stable view. So let’s repeat the first law of TV production: “let the talent do the work, not the camera!” Thankfully there are many sites, mostly US based, that still understand this. What appears to have happened is that as the technology has moved from Standard Definition cameras that needed a tripod or pedestal to support them to UHD/4K in cameras little bigger than a mobile phone this important production message seems to have got lost.

With UHD we have 25 times as many pixels of visual information as we had only a few years ago with SD, plus we have higher frame rates and greater depth of contrast. This is a fantastic opportunity for porn directors BUT what is happening is that since the directors are looking at the images on a screen or viewfinder not much larger than a postage stamp they are getting too close in most of the time, forgetting that when these images are viewed on a large 4K/UHD screens our eyes are more likely to focus in on pimples, moles or vein structure than on the sexual action that tends to be taking place outside the camera’s view.

Close in shots of gapes and cum shots make sense most of the time ( I have to admit I do love the long drawn out close-in shots of the sluts bending over and spreading their butt cheeks. ) , but when the sexual action is taking place I like to be able to see all the torsos; and I feel sure that women who watch porn would like to see more of the guys’ bodies during the action than at present. ( Girls. Please let me know if I am right or not, or are you watching the sluts like us guys? ) There’s a lot more to good porn than just a cock in a cunt. I like to watch a slut’s toes curl and wriggle as she starts to cum, or the look in her eyes as the excitement builds. I like to be able to see her eyes, toes and fingers at the same time as her hair is being pulled and her breasts are being mauled, all while being DPed. I particularly think it’s important to have wide angle shots during manhandling scenes. With 4K we have the possibility to see all the details and all the torsos at the same time.

The director should be concentrating his talent on composing the right scene with the flow of action being as smooth as possible so that the viewer is unaware of the presence of the camera. Unfortunately, too many directors – and I include the Discovery Channel’s reality programs today which are garbage from a production point of view – are not thinking about what the final production will look like to the viewer. They are being deluded by the tiny viewfinders on the cameras into thinking that they need to get in closer than is necessary. They shouldn’t overlook the fact that by going in close they are eliminating much of the action. Think about it. The directors are typically looking at a screen that is no larger than 3” when making the production and to appreciate 4K quality you really need to be looking on a screen that is at least 27” and better 65”. Is it surprising that so many of the productions will make you feel sick when looked at on a 65” 4K screen?

It’s crazy. As television cameras have increased in quality their viewfinders have gotten smaller!

To any member whose reaction to my comments is that they want the camera to get in close my answer is simple, “you need to view the action on a larger screen!” By asking for close-in shots you are preventing those of us who like to see the whole action from enjoying the shoot. The reverse is not true; by me asking for head-to-toe shots at 4K I am not preventing you from seeing the detailed action. Any limitation comes from your limited viewing setup. I would say that you need to watch a 4k/UHD porn shoot at full res before commenting, because then I think you would understand what I am saying.

Bottom line: The changes that need to be made in going to 4K aren't just to do with encoders and the like but also to the production techniques and the way we will view their productions at home.

[twistedvincent]

^ Well fuck me!! You should be directing .... you'd obviously be much better at it.

I have a degree in radio/television as well so I completely understand what your saying and must admit I never thought of things that way.

Still want the higher resolution though.

But the thought of Ian Scott in 1080p/4k does scare the fuck outta' me though.

[gongobyte]

To any member whose reaction to my comments is that they want the camera to get in close my answer is simple, “you need to view the action on a larger screen!” By asking for close-in shots you are preventing those of us who like to see the whole action from enjoying the shoot. The reverse is not true; by me asking for head-to-toe shots at 4K I am not preventing you from seeing the detailed action. Any limitation comes from your limited viewing setup. I would say that you need to watch a 4k/UHD porn shoot at full res before commenting, because then I think you would understand what I am saying.

While I can agree with you about shaky cam and not holding a shot long enough, a lot of what you are blaming on technology is not true. Most of what you are calling problems are simply different tastes, you quite obviously do not like close-ups. This is a problem with your taste, not with the director or technology. I have a 2015 release 60" 4k LG and what you are saying is just not true.

I wanna see clearly the skin and flesh of girls assess stretching around a hard cock. Bring on the 4K close-ups I say. Their bodies are all covered in makeup, this concern about seeing a pimple on a girl is just plain silly.

Just to clarify I hate close-ups that only show half an ass-cheek. I still wanna see the girls body, or a large portion of it. But as I said this is a problem with my personal taste, not a problem with the technology or director.

[slut_lover]

Gongobyte: Just to make it clear, I am not talking about viewing 720p productions on a 4K TV but actual HEVC 4K UHD productions played back at the full 4K res.

I actually gave examples of where I did like close-in shots so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion you came to. What I was saying was that there will have to be changes in production techniques as we move to 4K; and I strongly disagree with you in that I do believe that the size of the viewfinder has a direct influence on how close in the camera gets.

In 4K every frame of imagery contains 8,500,000 pixels. Its impossible to see all that detail on a 3" screen. Even if the viewfinder has the capability of displaying 4K our eyes don't have the capability to see it on a 3" screen. (Every review I have seen of the Sony Z5 phone with a 5.5" screen has said that they can't see any difference between HD and 4K) Contrast that with an SD camera where the picture contains about 350,000 pixels and almost certainly uses a larger viewfinder. Most of the world still only has access to SD television channels, so I'm not talking about dinosaur era technology when I talk about SD.

Legal Porn gives 720p as its highest resolution. 720p is 1280 x 720 = 921600 pixels so we are talking about a 9 times increase in resolution when using 4k instead of 720p . Imagine a grid 3 x 3 of 16:9 content. You have the same image content in one of those nine boxes at 4K as you would have full screen at 720p, and I am saying that a better use of the other eight boxes is to show more of the scene and not pimples in nine times more detail.

If that's what you understood then you are right. We have different taste.

[twistedvincent]

In LP's defense I have to say the girls they shoot are just about as flawless as any girls i've ever seen in porn.

[blktyp2]

LP, please add 1080 resolution. I would even pay more tickets for such scenes or possible re-purchase some in higher quality. A lot of the girls are more beautiful than is visible in 720. I especially realized this after watching Culbseventeen's 40th Anniversary videos (featuring some LP models), which was released in 1080.

[twistedvincent]

^ I DEFINITELY want 1080p but in NO FUCKING WAY would I pay more. LP is already WAY overpriced and the scenes have almost doubled in price since I joined in 2013. Fuck them....