What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

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What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Mon May 31, 2021 8:04 pm

Does anyone know what percentage of hardcore porn pictures/galleries contain a video usually? For example with many porn videos, there is of course the video and screenshots you can preview. And many times for these videos, there is a gallery of pictures of it. Thus it could be 50 pictures that was taken or more of it if you want to look at that as well as the video.



Like when I look at a porn hardcore gallery of a pornstar, i always go... is there a video for this and more often than not, there isn't?



Now when pictures like this are taken in hardcore scenes, does the cameraman generally tell the actors/actresses to stop so they could take the best photo mostly? I seen a few bts scenes where it was like this. Or are lot of photos taken when the hardcore scene is occurring and then the cameraguy just takes multiple pictures when the hardcore is happening?



Now I'm sure ton of you seen softcore videos or galleries of girls who are naked and say masturbate with a dildo. Obviously many contain a video and some contain only pictures and there might not be a video. And those pictures that are taken, camera guy takes it like how he does with a regular model so that is nothing new.



But what about hardcore picture galleries? Like how you see a hardcore gallery of a girl with another guy or multiple guys etc. There could be 80 photos of this hardcore gallery. But there is no video of it. So in these hardcore galleries, no video exist or something? I have to assume there is a video of it even with the production team right? Or its like okay do a few sex positions and we only take photos... but there would be no video?

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Mon May 31, 2021 8:05 pm

I'm asking this because lot of porn galleries you see of pornstars, you ever notice how there is not like always a video for every porn gallery you see of a girl? Again, this is hardcore im talking about... not solo/masturbation. I mean like in hardcore galleries of a girl and a guy or many guys... that does not have a video... is there even any recording of the hardcore going on? Or its like okay do certain positions and then we take pictures only. I can't imagine this being the case because you see pictures of the guy's cum on the girl etc so can't imagine there isn't any hardcore going on for a bit right?



Is there a reason you see so many pornstar hardcore galleries of girls but many of those... there isn't a video? I got to assume this is like under 20 percent?



I also got to assume this has to do with so porn producers don't have to pay as much to the girl since they are also releasing a porn gallery of a girl and not the video? Also im talking about those old porn galleries from girls a while back. Because i assume now, rarely is this the case? That almost all porn girls who do porn has a video if there is indeed a photo gallery for the hardcore porn scene?

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby netzerkaiser » Mon May 31, 2021 9:40 pm

You're asking 2 questions here Pauly. The second question is very interesting. Are the photos cut from the video action or are they a separate event. I think it all depends on a few factors but mostly studio & year of creation.

In short, I know the old Private stuff had photo shoots filmed separately. The proof is there because the photo shoots, usually with Woodman at the camera are available, possibly not on this site, I'm not sure. These shoots demanded great self control by the male actors in not ejaculating and clearly involve an awful lot of 'stop starting'. Later stuff from Sineplex down to present day possibly had combination of model poses & stills from video.

Again I'm not an expert - others will answer far better than I can.

Your first question however perplexes me. You should really be asking what % of videos here have photo galleries. I'd say 95% & usually great quality.

I hope this helps.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:06 am

The main thing im curious about is in those hardcore gallery pictures of pornstars... like is there an actual video to it? Because you see how many porn girls have hardcore videos... then you could view the picture set as well which is very common. But what about if you only find a picture gallery of a hardcore scene. Its like... was any video even recorded? Or was it only pictures? Because if its pictures only... so the guys who are having sex with the girl basically not fucking them like normal or something if you know what i mean since its mainly photo gallery or no video?


I see BTS scenes where you see cameraguy stop the hardcore action and take pictures. But those bts scenes... i notice are mainly porn videos as well. Thus they do the video and pictures. But what about when you find a pornstar hardcore gallery with 50 pictures... but no movie. Was there even a movie? Why would there be a gallery but no video? Is it because the porn producer would pay less to the girl and say okay you are doing some hardcore but it won't be a video... would be more like pictures only so you paid less?


Okay i get what you mean with Woodman and his old private photo shoots. But what percentage of those photoshoots have a video along with it? Again... talking about hardcore and not solo etc. Because im sure you see how some pornstars have done say a good amount of scenes... but then you see they have tons of hardcore galleries and you wonder... how come there isn't a video for this? That is why i was wondering... like is it under 20 percent or something in terms of a hardcore photo gallery of a pornstar... to have a video?


You say i should be asking what percentage of videos have photo galleries. You say 95% and usually great quality. Are you sure its that high? I don't think that number is that high. But if you mean porn in the last few years... i think that may be true. But what about over a decade ago plus etc? Yea screenshots count as photo galleries. But would you agree its like the complete opposite of trying to find a porn video of a girl who did a hardcore scene?


So that is what really has me curious. Because when i see a hardcore gallery of a porngirl and she fucks a guy or many guys... first thing i say is... i like to find the video of it. But many times, there isn't even a video to it. So that makes me wonder why there are hardcore galleries but no video.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby netzerkaiser » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:13 am

You say i should be asking what percentage of videos have photo galleries. You say 95% and usually great quality. Are you sure its that high? I don't think that number is that high. But if you mean porn in the last few years... i think that may be true. But what about over a decade ago plus etc? Yea screenshots count as photo galleries. But would you agree its like the complete opposite of trying to find a porn video of a girl who did a hardcore scene?


So that is what really has me curious. Because when i see a hardcore gallery of a porngirl and she fucks a guy or many guys... first thing i say is... i like to find the video of it. But many times, there isn't even a video to it. So that makes me wonder why there are hardcore galleries but no video.


I'd say you're right about old stuff, Silwa etc, i.e. magazine shoots pre-2002, that there was no video. The consolation for you must be, that if there were a video, quality would be probably awful. At least the photos still hold great 25 years on...

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:41 am

Hi. Well im not talking about that long ago. But that makes sense. But i mean like over a decade ago... like imagine with the private girls like lucy lee. I notice how she has ton of photo galleries that are hardcore... but i can't find the video for it. Thus... does a video even exist for that? The same can be said of other pornstars... but i think you get my point.


Because whenever i see a pornstar hardcore gallery, first thing i think is... okay where is the video as i want to watch it. But many times, I can't find the video and doubt it even exists. So do porn producers just do hardcore photoshoots without the video or something back then?


And why would they even do that? Now if its masturbation and solo, that makes complete sense to have only photo gallery of a scene only... but if its hardcore... how could they not have a scene? I mean do porn producer go okay male actor fuck the pornstar but make sure you control yourself because this is like a photoshoot and not video? I can't imagine how weird that would be if there is no video for it.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby Pineapples Studio » Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:20 am

Uh.

Photo-only sets were pretty ubiquitous in the 1970s and 1980s. They became less common starting in the early 1990s and were pretty much gone by the mid 1990s, with a few exceptions.

Almost anything produced by a professional studio since the year 1995 has had a video component to it, except for glamour mag stuff like Score and some very niche fetish mags that survived for a few years longer, until the internet became commonplace.

Private began as a porn magazine and did not get into making movies until the early 1990s. They produced photo-only sets for a while after that, into the second half of the 1990s. It’s pretty frustrating, because there were a lot of drop-dead gorgeous girls in the early days of Private’s foray into video who only shot one or two proper scenes. Most of the focus was still on the photo-only sets because video was still new for them and the company wasn’t used to it. (They did release tape compilations with BTS videos from their photo shoots, but when I say BTS video, I mean literally just videos of the photo shoots themselves with very little excitement or movement. They were not proper scenes.)

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:47 am

Well based on that, are you saying almost every single private hardcore gallery a girl has done has a video? For example look at lucy lee and suzie diamond. I know with private, lot of the photo galleries do include a video to it but not all.


But besides private, im talking about over a decade plus ago, you still see hardcore photo galleries of girls like lucy lee and suzie diamond but there isn't any video that you can find on those hardcore galleries. Is there any reason for this?


You are right that many of the photo galleries in private with girls do have videos... but not all. But why were those not released? You do agree with me that when you go and check for hardcore photo galleries of pornstars, many times you try to find that video/movie... and its not there. Would you agree on this? Again im talking about porn videos in like over a decade ago plus ago... so why isn't those available for video?

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby Pineapples Studio » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:45 pm

paulyshoresituation wrote:Well based on that, are you saying almost every single private hardcore gallery a girl has done has a video? For example look at lucy lee and suzie diamond. I know with private, lot of the photo galleries do include a video to it but not all.


But besides private, im talking about over a decade plus ago, you still see hardcore photo galleries of girls like lucy lee and suzie diamond but there isn't any video that you can find on those hardcore galleries. Is there any reason for this?

I would need to see the specific galleries you are talking about to comment on those girls. It’s possible that a video does exist and you’ve simply overlooked it. It’s also possible that they did shoot a handful of photo-only galleries. Those had pretty much disappeared by 1995, but I guess not entirely.


You are right that many of the photo galleries in private with girls do have videos... but not all. But why were those not released? You do agree with me that when you go and check for hardcore photo galleries of pornstars, many times you try to find that video/movie... and its not there. Would you agree on this? Again im talking about porn videos in like over a decade ago plus ago... so why isn't those available for video?

You misunderstand.

For most of those photo-only sets, there is no video. It was never shot. It is not the case that a bunch of unreleased videos exist sitting in a vault somewhere. Nobody has been withholding them from release. They simply do not exist. I tried to explain this by using the example of Private, but I will say it again; many large porn studios from the past began life as print magazines and did not get involved in video production until many years later. They were not used to working with video and did not perceive it as their core business, so when they did decide to make a movie, it was regarded as a special case.

It was neither the norm nor the expectation at the time that every shoot had to include video, and indeed, most of them did not.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby netzerkaiser » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:58 pm

Mister Ananas wrote:
paulyshoresituation wrote:Well based on that, are you saying almost every single private hardcore gallery a girl has done has a video? For example look at lucy lee and suzie diamond. I know with private, lot of the photo galleries do include a video to it but not all.


But besides private, im talking about over a decade plus ago, you still see hardcore photo galleries of girls like lucy lee and suzie diamond but there isn't any video that you can find on those hardcore galleries. Is there any reason for this?

I would need to see the specific galleries you are talking about to comment on those girls. It’s possible that a video does exist and you’ve simply overlooked it. It’s also possible that they did shoot a handful of photo-only galleries. Those had pretty much disappeared by 1995, but I guess not entirely.


You are right that many of the photo galleries in private with girls do have videos... but not all. But why were those not released? You do agree with me that when you go and check for hardcore photo galleries of pornstars, many times you try to find that video/movie... and its not there. Would you agree on this? Again im talking about porn videos in like over a decade ago plus ago... so why isn't those available for video?

You misunderstand.

For most of those photo-only sets, there is no video. It was never shot. It is not the case that a bunch of unreleased videos exist sitting in a vault somewhere. Nobody has been withholding them from release. They simply do not exist. I tried to explain this by using the example of Private, but I will say it again; many large porn studios from the past began life as print magazines and did not get involved in video production until many years later. They were not used to working with video and did not perceive it as their core business, so when they did decide to make a movie, it was regarded as a special case.

It was neither the norm nor the expectation at the time that every shoot had to include video, and indeed, most of them did not.


Pauly, everything Mr Ananas says here is correct, & so well explained.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:14 am

Mister Ananas wrote:
paulyshoresituation wrote:Well based on that, are you saying almost every single private hardcore gallery a girl has done has a video? For example look at lucy lee and suzie diamond. I know with private, lot of the photo galleries do include a video to it but not all.


But besides private, im talking about over a decade plus ago, you still see hardcore photo galleries of girls like lucy lee and suzie diamond but there isn't any video that you can find on those hardcore galleries. Is there any reason for this?

I would need to see the specific galleries you are talking about to comment on those girls. It’s possible that a video does exist and you’ve simply overlooked it. It’s also possible that they did shoot a handful of photo-only galleries. Those had pretty much disappeared by 1995, but I guess not entirely.


You are right that many of the photo galleries in private with girls do have videos... but not all. But why were those not released? You do agree with me that when you go and check for hardcore photo galleries of pornstars, many times you try to find that video/movie... and its not there. Would you agree on this? Again im talking about porn videos in like over a decade ago plus ago... so why isn't those available for video?

You misunderstand.

For most of those photo-only sets, there is no video. It was never shot. It is not the case that a bunch of unreleased videos exist sitting in a vault somewhere. Nobody has been withholding them from release. They simply do not exist. I tried to explain this by using the example of Private, but I will say it again; many large porn studios from the past began life as print magazines and did not get involved in video production until many years later. They were not used to working with video and did not perceive it as their core business, so when they did decide to make a movie, it was regarded as a special case.

It was neither the norm nor the expectation at the time that every shoot had to include video, and indeed, most of them did not.




But are you saying almost any hardcore gallery that is found on private say... after the year 2000, has to almost always contain a video?


But you also mean other sites... but not private... those other sites... that is not that uncommon even after the year 2000?


I could definitely post some photo galleries for you to look at... and im positive no video for these galleries exist because i been searching for them for years.


But why would sites have photo galleries of hardcore but not have a video? I don't understand this.


Do the producers go... okay its better this way? No way anyone would choose hardcore photo gallery... over a video. Since with a video... there is almost always a photo gallery etc.

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Postby netzerkaiser » Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:16 pm

But why would sites have photo galleries of hardcore but not have a video? I don't understand this.


Do the producers go... okay its better this way? No way anyone would choose hardcore photo gallery... over a video. Since with a video... there is almost always a photo gallery etc.[/quote]


To do a magazine shoot may have required far less time, money, & resources.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby Pineapples Studio » Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:20 pm

Pauly:

You’re taking it for granted that things were always the way they are today. That is not the case. At one time in the past, video was more of a luxury, especially pre-Internet when the only way to get it was to buy it from a brick-and-mortar porn shop. Porn mags, by contrast, were sold under-the-radar in gas stations and other places.

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Postby netzerkaiser » Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:58 pm

Mister Ananas wrote:Pauly:

You’re taking it for granted that things were always the way they are today. That is not the case. At one time in the past, video was more of a luxury, especially pre-Internet when the only way to get it was to buy it from a brick-and-mortar porn shop. Porn mags, by contrast, were sold under-the-radar in gas stations and other places.


Over the radar too. I remember working in London in late 1990's, as young man, sex starved because all I could afford were poor bedsits. And I remember going into corner shops & seeing all these fantastic Silwa magazines like Schulmadchen, it would've been episodes 80 - 103 or whenever it ceased to exist. I was stunned: "What kind of ladies do this? Where do they live? Not here anyway". And there would be these kindly Indian or Pakistani gentlemen serving, & I always seemed to make good impression on them with my personality. Well one night I said to heck with it, & bought a few magazines, which were so FANTASTIC, I kept them until I returned home & my mam found them under the bed & tore them to sunder, all without a mention of the issue. The other point is, that when I went to counter to buy the magazines, the kind face of newsagent changed to utter contempt, like I was dirt on his shoe.

People today have NO IDEA how lucky they are. These pictures are actually from one of the Silwa magazines I bought that night in 2000 or 2001.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby Pineapples Studio » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:16 pm

Yeah, Silwa was one of the last photo-only holdouts, along with Score and a few others.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:39 am

Mister Ananas wrote:Pauly:

You’re taking it for granted that things were always the way they are today. That is not the case. At one time in the past, video was more of a luxury, especially pre-Internet when the only way to get it was to buy it from a brick-and-mortar porn shop. Porn mags, by contrast, were sold under-the-radar in gas stations and other places.




Hey. The thing is im not talking about pre internet. Im talking about like the mid to late 2000's. Like when there were many porn sites out already and videos and pictures. Like when i look at hardcore galleries of pornstars like suzie diamond and lucy lee... many times there isn't a video for it. So i thought... how are there only hardcore photo galleries... but no video? Again if its a girl doing solo or lesbian, i can understand it having photos only.


But when its hardcore with a girl and a guy or many guys, its easier to do a hardcore photo gallery compared to video? Actually yea pictures are easier than video since they need to do editing and all that.


But you are saying many hardcore photo galleries do indeed not have a video then right like with suzie diamond and lucy lee when they do hardcore sex? Again i seen many galleries where there is no video for it. Is there easier to shoot for the male and female pornstars? I keep imagining the male pornstar need to control his erection every so often when doing only a hardcore photo gallery and not video etc...

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Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:18 am

Show me the galleries and try to provide as much context as you can.


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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:34 pm

These are all from Private and ClubSeventeen.

I guess Private was still doing pictorial sets into the 2000’s, which comes as a surprise to me, but I’ve already explained the history with that company and the importance of their print magazine. It sounds like they simply kept doing those sets into the mid 2000’s, which I must admit is news to me. I guess it makes sense, because the internet still hasn’t quite killed print media at that point in time, but it’s a much later shoot than I expected. I did spend some time looking for a scene with Suzie Diamond and Jane Darling working together, and I even found a few, but none that match the wardrobe or location from that photo shoot.

ClubSeventeen was one of the last holdouts to focus primarily on pictorial sets, along with Score which I mentioned before. You’re probably not going to find videos for those. They did produce video content, but their main focus was on the photos.

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:19 am

Do you think there is any video that was created though by the producers back then with private then? Such as they have the video or clips of it but they never released it? I have tough time imagining them or camera guy only taking photos of it etc.


Also has to be tougher for male actor then right since he has to get hard and get soft since he is doing these photoshoots as oppose to video?


I saw a suzie diamond and jane darling private video... and it had pictures too but it was another set. But i couldn't find this set... which is why i ask you this.


Well the other site, they most likely did have video or short clips of it right? Like with the producer/cameraguy but they never planned to release it?


But still... i feel like there are lot of picture galleries where i cannot find the video though and im talking about other girls like lucy lee and others as well. So you are saying in the last decade or so, its very rare then for a porn girl to not have a video then if there is indeed hardcore gallery?


Also you say lot of galleries that are solo only ... don't have video right? That compared to hardcore?

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Re: What % of hardcore porn galleries/scenes contain video?

Postby paulyshoresituation » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:25 am

So none of these have a video then correct? But surely there is a video from the producers right? Or they just film it and stop etc and so it's basically very short videos in bits and pieces?


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