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Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:01 am

by Jocke

...is anyone in Russia actually going to believe him?
Or, NATO invading Ukraine, lol!

same shit as when Hitler's guys attacked a German border patrol with Polish uniforms. Are we living in the 1930's?

Think how much better off the Russian people would be if they had friendly relations with neighbors instead of having this dictator with Soviet nostalgia?

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:02 am

by goodfella89

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Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:43 am

by stevehappy339

Jocke wrote:...is anyone in Russia actually going to believe him?
Or, NATO invading Ukraine, lol!

same shit as when Hitler's guys attacked a German border patrol with Polish uniforms. Are we living in the 1930's?

Think how much better off the Russian people would be if they had friendly relations with neighbors instead of having this dictator with Soviet nostalgia?

there is something called as Monroe doctrine which effectively states that in the western hemisphere countries shouldn't maintain friendly relations with countries which America considers as it's adversaries
now coming to Russia, During German Reunification Gorbachev was promised that NATO wouldn't expand eastwards(hand sake agreement) whereas now almost all of the east European countries have joined NATO( Baltic states,Poland,Czech republic etc) Ukraine is the only one left now if it joins NATO almost all of Russia's west borders(Belarus and Finland have not joined atm) will be NATO allied.
this situation Russia views it as security threat since NATO is a Anti-Russian Grouping
I'm just telling you the whole picture

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:33 pm

by netzerkaiser

NATO have been provoking Moscow since Glasnost. I lived in Russia in early '90's & I saw first-hand how the expectations & hopes of Russians were betrayed by west. No help was given. I saw once proud old ladies driven to begging on side-streets when rouble went kaputt. Myself, I saw it.

I lost all faith in NATO in '99 with the lies over Kosovo & the pariah made of Serbia in a 10 year war where Serbia | Croatia | Bosnia / Albania were all equally complicit...

There are 2 guilty parties here, Russia & NATO, I'm no fan of disgusting NKVD / KGB brutality / sadism, but I think / hope Russia's gone past that.

Lets hope this de-escalates. China's stance encourages me that it will. Fair play to China, they're not sitting on fence. They're saying 'stop this now'.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:26 am

by robin_reid

I guess you guys know who is Klaus Schwab and his WEF, well in old spechs he mentioned favourably “world leaders” like Trudeau, Macron etc and including Putin as well. So all the bickering about Ukraine is just a political theatre, all of this is part of the Great Reset. They’re all in this together.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:32 am

by goodfella89

Fuck off Adolf Putin!!!

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:55 am

by Starrio

robin_reid wrote:I guess you guys know who is Klaus Schwab and his WEF, well in old spechs he mentioned favourably “world leaders” like Trudeau, Macron etc and including Putin as well. So all the bickering about Ukraine is just a political theatre, all of this is part of the Great Reset. They’re all in this together.

Putin too? Are you sure? The ones I know involved with the WEF are:

- Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada

- Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Canada

- Sean Fraser, Ministry of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship, Canada

- François-Philippe Champagne, Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, Canada

- Elissa Golberg, Assistant Deputy Minister for Strategic Policy, Canada

- Karina Gould, Minister of Families, Children and Social Development, Canada

- Jagmeet Singh, Leader, Canada's New Democrats, Canada

- Renée Maria Tremblay, Senior Counsel, Supreme Court of Canada

- Emmanuel Macron, President of France

- Jacinda Ardern, Prime Minister of New Zealand

- Alexander De Croo, Prime Minister of Belgium

- Sanna Marin, Prime Minister of Finland

- Carlos Alvarado Quesada, President of Costa Rica

- Annalena Baerbock, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Germany

- Jens Spahn, former Federal Minister of Health, Germany

- Sebastian Kurz, former Chancellor of Austria

- Annika Saarikko, Minister of Finance, Finland

- Mark Boris Andrijanič, Minister of Digital Transformation, Slovenia

- Amélie de Montchalin, Minister of Public Sector Transformation and the Civil Service, France

- Lea Wermelin, Minister for Environment, Denmark

- Niki Kerameus, Minister of Education and Religious Affairs, Greece

- Irene Tinagli, Member of the European Parliament

- Karien van Gennip, Minister of Social Affairs and Employment, Netherlands

- Mamuka Bakhtadze, former Prime Minister of Georgia

- Peter Buttigieg, Secretary of Transportation, USA

- Vera Daves de Sousa, Minister of Finance, Angola

- Gila Demri Gamliel, Member of the Knesset, Israel

- Martín Guzmán, Minister of Economy, Argentina

- Kojo Oppong Nkrumah, Minister of Information, Ghana

- Leo Varadkar, Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment, Ireland

- Zhu Xiaoxuan, Deputy Director, China Science and Technology Exchange Center, Ministry of Science and Technology, People's Republic of China

- Haakon, Crown Prince of Norway

- Jimmy Wales, Founder of Wikipedia

- Leo Tilman, American financier

- Fasi Zaka, Pakistani political commentator, columnist, radio talk show host, and television anchor

- Eva Dichand, Austrian media manager, Heute daily newspaper

- Felix R. Graf, Chief Executive Officer, NZZ Medien-Gruppe, Switzerland

- Lera Auerbach

- Ólafur Elíasson

- Bilge Demirköz

- Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, Director

- Michael Schumacher, German former racing driver

- Nico Rosberg, German-Finnish former racing driver

- Wyclef Jean, American musician

- Hu Ge, Chinese actor

- Chelsea Victoria Clinton, board member of Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative

- Gavin Christopher Newsom, governor of California

- Rania Al-Abdullah, queen consort of Jordan

- Prince Jaime Bernardo of Bourbon-Parma, Climate Envoy of the Netherlands

- Stéphane Bancel, CEO of biotechnology company Moderna,

- Mark Zuckerberg, Founder of Facebook

- Rajiv Shah, President of the Rockefeller Foundation

- David de Rothschild is an adventurer, environmentalist, and the founder of MYOO

- Nathaniel Rothschild, co-chair of Bumi Plc

- Leopold David de Rothschild, Former director of the Bank of England

- Édouard Etienne Alphonse de Rothschild, share holder of Lafite vineyardnewspaper Libération

- Baron David René James de Rothschild, Chairman of Rothschild Continuation Holdings

- Alexander Soros - USA, Soros Fund Management

- Jonathan Soros - USA, Soros Fund Management

- Laurence D. Fink, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, BlackRock

- Kristalina Georgieva, Managing Director, International Monetary Fund (IMF)

- Christine Lagarde, President, European Central Bank

- L. Rafael Reif, President, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

- Feike Sybesma, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Royal Philips

- Mark Schneider, Chief Executive Officer, Nestlé

- Laurence D. Fink, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, BlackRock

- Fabiola Gianotti, Director-General, European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN)

Among many other important people, but no mention of Putin whatsoever.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:07 am

by jackthetreacleeater

The west needs to respond decisively in this situation, to do nothing now would be a betrayal of the Ukrainian people and nothing more than appeasement, just like in 1939. If we tolerate this, who's country will be next?
Leaving geo-political conspiracies to one side, we all know who the bad guys are in this situation, the Russians. Putin is mad, his rhetoric and double speak is full of lies, mis-truths and plain old bullshit.
This nonsense about NATO encircling and expanding when we made a vague agreement with Russia is just a smoke-screen. Those countries made a choice, and it was their decision to make. My adopted home, the Czech Republic, made a conscious decision to turn its back on Russian imperialism and the Communist past, it looked to the EU and the west for support, and it was their prerogative. Who are Russian to dictate who should and shouldn't join NATO?
I think Putin is just plain mad, in the same way as Hitler and Stalin. He's become pissed with power because no one inside his own country dare challenge or contradict him.
Re. in those citing "the whole picture", rather than some gentlemen's agreement, the Russians actually signed the Budapest Memorandum (1994) which (though not legally binding) stated that all signees would respect current boundaries; including the Ukraine. Clearly the Russians have broken that on two occasions.
Everything the Russians say is a lie. They have become an Orwellian nation, so oppressed, the people lied to so much that they don't know the facts, let alone the truth.
If we in the west had any balls we'd act now and send Russia back to the stone-age where they fucking belong.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:56 am

by Starrio

jackthetreacleeater wrote: If we tolerate this, who's country will be next?
.

Obviously Taiwan

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:05 pm

by avanfurwet

jackthetreacleeater wrote:The west needs to respond decisively in this situation, to do nothing now would be a betrayal of the Ukrainian people and nothing more than appeasement, just like in 1939. If we tolerate this, who's country will be next?
Leaving geo-political conspiracies to one side, we all know who the bad guys are in this situation, the Russians. Putin is mad, his rhetoric and double speak is full of lies, mis-truths and plain old bullshit.
This nonsense about NATO encircling and expanding when we made a vague agreement with Russia is just a smoke-screen. Those countries made a choice, and it was their decision to make. My adopted home, the Czech Republic, made a conscious decision to turn its back on Russian imperialism and the Communist past, it looked to the EU and the west for support, and it was their prerogative. Who are Russian to dictate who should and shouldn't join NATO?
I think Putin is just plain mad, in the same way as Hitler and Stalin. He's become pissed with power because no one inside his own country dare challenge or contradict him.
Re. in those citing "the whole picture", rather than some gentlemen's agreement, the Russians actually signed the Budapest Memorandum (1994) which (though not legally binding) stated that all signees would respect current boundaries; including the Ukraine. Clearly the Russians have broken that on two occasions.
Everything the Russians say is a lie. They have become an Orwellian nation, so oppressed, the people lied to so much that they don't know the facts, let alone the truth.
If we in the west had any balls we'd act now and send Russia back to the stone-age where they fucking belong.

Sadly all true, and I think to our eternal shame that the west will do nothing.

Putin is the new Hitler and the west will suffer for our weakness.

Our spineless so-called leaders will indulge themselves in meaningless public hand-wringing and pathetically ineffectual "sanctions" to pretend they're taking "strong action" while the poor people of Ukraine will die defending themselves or live on as slaves to Russian overlords.

And Starrio is right, China is watching and Taiwan will be next.

The world has changed overnight.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:32 pm

by Giorgio Grandi

Ruble dropped like crazy, a friend just told me in SPB there are not rubles in the ATM and soldier around in the street.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:35 pm

by YumYum74

These are scary times. Was up most of the night, refreshing the news and just sitting here stunned. Have been to Ukraine several times, seeing what is happening to the Ukrainians right now is downright terrifying.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:06 pm

by YumYum74

Connected to this site: apparently the Czech government has now suspended issuing visa for Russian nationals.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:36 pm

by DPraved

YumYum74 wrote:Connected to this site: apparently the Czech government has now suspended issuing visa for Russian nationals.

Yeah, it feels petty to worry about porn in a time like this, but I can imagine Russia getting cut off from the banking systems will make it very difficult for Russian content providers to get payed.

It's a sad world we live in where innocent lives will have a very difficult time ahead, on both sides of the conflict.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:46 pm

by Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p

Negative:
-Gasoline prices will skyrocket in Europe (in Russia in comparison it was 60 cents per liter last week).
-Gas/electric bill will skyrocket in Europe (already people have difficulty to make ends meet and in some countries all people already get compensated for the the high gas/electric bills, even millionaires for fuck's sake!)
-Inflation will skyrocket even more (simple groceries and healhy food will become too expensive and a lot of other (basic) stuff too).
-Less/no Russian based porn models at LP studios in Prague due to travel restrictions. Important to mention since we're on a PORN forum.
-Even more refugees in European countries. There already is no place for all those muslims. In many European countries there are aleady no homes (under 200k or cheap rental apartments) available for their own nationals, unless you'll wait 8/10 years on a list. These refugees will always have top priority when homes are being allocated. It's always easy to be a good samaritan and welcome all those refugees to our countries, but those encouragements (from people in general and politicians) to welcome them here always come from people already have one or more homes where they live in, aside from the fact that those refugees (and the accompanying issues such as nuisance) will always get dumped in in economically less well-off neighborhoods which aren't theirs.
-Pathetic donation collecting initiatives where people donate like a buck or two or donate their old fungy/smelly clothing with holes or smelly sleeping bags, inflatable bed which they got from the moldy cellars.
Positive:
-Brothels across Europe will have lots of good looking (cheap) tall blonde Ukrainian prostiutes again like in the 90s.
-More Ukrainian nude models will consider a career in hardcore porn when they become refugees in European counties. They can also replace Russian models at LP when they are banned to travel.
-Klitsjko brothers (one is even mayor of the capital Kiev) will become less arrogant in due time when they will exchange their ukrainian passport for a russian one. Many people were never a fan of them in their boxing days and beyond. I wonder if Putin will have them sit across his big desk as little school boys after the russian army plants the flag in kiev to publically hand them over their new Russian passport....
-Interesting television and past time for news junkies. I remember how many people who were being interviewed on TV (I recall CNN) had no shame to mention that they were content with 9/11 because finally something exciting was happening in the world and in their boring lives.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:10 pm

by Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p

Problem with refugees and housing is not only them, but also that each individual is allowed to bring their entire family when those family members can for example prove financial "dependency"etc (which isn't hard). They call it right to "family reunion". For many countries it can also be extended family (and not only <18 children + wife/husband): 18+ siblings, aunts, uncles, nephews and nieces and their (grown) children, grandparents, great-grant parents etc and they all need a home too eventually when there already are none in many european countries available https://www.gov.uk/guidance/eu-settleme ... eu-citizen unless you belong to the super rich like Melania Trump, who's old age parents now got a US passport too, and who can easily buy a castle paid by the donald and wifey. Simply said, Europe is full and has it's own major issues to deal with.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:32 pm

by Iddaoeeok

jackthetreacleeater wrote:The west needs to respond decisively in this situation, to do nothing now would be a betrayal of the Ukrainian people and nothing more than appeasement, just like in 1939. If we tolerate this, who's country will be next?
Leaving geo-political conspiracies to one side, we all know who the bad guys are in this situation, the Russians. Putin is mad, his rhetoric and double speak is full of lies, mis-truths and plain old bullshit.
This nonsense about NATO encircling and expanding when we made a vague agreement with Russia is just a smoke-screen. Those countries made a choice, and it was their decision to make. My adopted home, the Czech Republic, made a conscious decision to turn its back on Russian imperialism and the Communist past, it looked to the EU and the west for support, and it was their prerogative. Who are Russian to dictate who should and shouldn't join NATO?
I think Putin is just plain mad, in the same way as Hitler and Stalin. He's become pissed with power because no one inside his own country dare challenge or contradict him.
Re. in those citing "the whole picture", rather than some gentlemen's agreement, the Russians actually signed the Budapest Memorandum (1994) which (though not legally binding) stated that all signees would respect current boundaries; including the Ukraine. Clearly the Russians have broken that on two occasions.
Everything the Russians say is a lie. They have become an Orwellian nation, so oppressed, the people lied to so much that they don't know the facts, let alone the truth.
If we in the west had any balls we'd act now and send Russia back to the stone-age where they fucking belong.

I'm assuming that isn't Putin's little poodle, Donald Trump, you have as your avatar.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:05 pm

by netzerkaiser

As things stand, this is looking like it might be sorted in 48 hours. Lets PRAY so. But if so, it might be looked on with interesting perspective years from now, almost like Israeli offensives / defensives '67 / '73 - similar orthopeadic accuracy (so far). Western European Russians & Ukrainians are kin... I know, I tried Routledge Ukraiainian language course (''cos I have basic Russian) & it was easy. No judgements here... lets hope casualties to minimum... 2 great peoples... more in common with one another than any of us outsiders can imagine in our cosy settings.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:17 pm

by FriendlyFireFan

netzerkaiser wrote:NATO have been provoking Moscow since Glasnost. I lived in Russia in early '90's & I saw first-hand how the expectations & hopes of Russians were betrayed by west. No help was given. I saw once proud old ladies driven to begging on side-streets when rouble went kaputt. Myself, I saw it.

I lost all faith in NATO in '99 with the lies over Kosovo & the pariah made of Serbia in a 10 year war where Serbia | Croatia | Bosnia / Albania were all equally complicit...

There are 2 guilty parties here, Russia & NATO, I'm no fan of disgusting NKVD / KGB brutality / sadism, but I think / hope Russia's gone past that.

Lets hope this de-escalates. China's stance encourages me that it will. Fair play to China, they're not sitting on fence. They're saying 'stop this now'.

Well put, netzerkaiser.

We've interacted before, I had a different handle referencing my prison penpal. I'm American but studied abroad in Vladimir, Moscow, and later taught English in Omsk. I know what you're talking about regarding Serbia. BTW, I met an Italian girl here in the U.S. who posted these alleged Biden quotes in the 90s on Serbs. I first saw these nearly 20 years ago but am searching for proof of these alleged quotes:

- "Serbs are illiterate degenerates, baby killers, butchers and rapists." Joe Biden, CNN 1998

- "I was suggesting we bomb Belgrade."Joe Biden, 1998

- "All Serbs should be put in Nazi-style concentration camps."Joe Biden, 1999

- "We should go to Belgrade and should have a Japanese-German style occupation of that country."Joe Biden, MSNBC 1999

I realize most won't consider this a legit source, but RT covered this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyWRQd5zQM

That video is from a blog post:https://adarapress.com/2020/08/29/joe-bidens-legacy-of-hate-towards-the-serbian-people-video/

Here's another guy requesting video proof of these alleged quotes:

https://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=25957.0

OK - this looks like the best article yet. I do trust Antiwar:

https://original.antiwar.com/malic/2009 ... e-balkans/

I had been reading Antiwar for nearly two decades before taking a break for my mental health, but this is where I found the link to the article:

http://neilclark66.blogspot.com/2009/05 ... erbia.html

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:34 am

by Iddaoeeok

"Alleged" as in complete fucking garbage.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 am

by Iddaoeeok

netzerkaiser wrote:As things stand, this is looking like it might be sorted in 48 hours. Lets PRAY so. But if so, it might be looked on with interesting perspective years from now, almost like Israeli offensives / defensives '67 / '73 - similar orthopeadic accuracy (so far). Western European Russians & Ukrainians are kin... I know, I tried Routledge Ukraiainian language course (''cos I have basic Russian) & it was easy. No judgements here... lets hope casualties to minimum... 2 great peoples... more in common with one another than any of us outsiders can imagine in our cosy settings.

Two great peoples? Try telling Vladimir Putin that. Didn't you hear him? Ukraine is not a country, it was invented by Lenin etc. As for the analogy with Israel - how's that been working out for that last 50 years? No trouble there, all plain sailing, eh?

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:14 am

by YumYum74

If any of these alleged quotes were genuine, you'd really think you'd have to look for proof of them? Such quotes (if real) would be so explosive, you'd be falling all over proof in every type of media. The fact that you're having to look for it, and having difficulty (as in no luck) finding them, exposes these claims for what they are: complete and utter garbage.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:12 am

by Starrio

Not defending netzerkaiser here but those quotes are legit, you can find them on video easily:

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That said, I feel that what he said 23 years ago is irrelevant considering our current government follows an specific agenda, as always, but it is on a different level of global scale organization, so politicians don't have much of a saying when it comes to relevant issues, they will always have to consult to these groups before taking any action.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:55 am

by FriendlyFireFan

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Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:15 am

by Iddaoeeok

Got to love how right wing ethnonationalists the world over are having to twist themselves into pretzels to avoid criticizing Putin, one of their own kind, and someone most of them very much admire (openly or not), and instead find some convoluted way to carry on blaming poor old Sleepy Joe for this situation. This isn't about Russia and Russians by the way, there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot of support for this war among ordinary Russians, they are very much secondary to Putin and his ego and his attempt to write himself into the history books. Fundamentally, Putin and his brand of Russian nationalism does not believe Ukraine has any right to exist, so how do you explain away that one, all you little Putin/Trump fanboys? Is a speech by Biden about Serbia 20-odd years ago responsible for Putin's utter contempt for Ukraine and Ukrainians? Prepare yourself for whataboutery on a hitherto unimaginable scale, folks.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:23 am

by Starrio

@FriendlyFireFan, I love Russian women, Ukrainian women, all women really, and I don't think that will ever change, if you feel you have a lot of anger I recommend the book "Letting Go" by David. R. Hawkins. Pretty much everything that man writes is profound. I highly recommend it.

@Iddaoeeok I hope you are not referring to me because if that's the case you have me all wrong. I do not condone initiating a war and I never will regardless of where it comes from.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:28 am

by Iddaoeeok

Starrio wrote:@FriendlyFireFan, I love Russian women, Ukrainian women, all women really, and I don't think that will ever change, if you feel you have a lot of anger I recommend the book "Letting Go" by David. R. Hawkins. Pretty much everything that man writes is profound. I highly recommend it.

@Iddaoeeok I hope you are not referring to me because if that's the case you have me all wrong. I do not condone initiating a war and I never will regardless of where it comes from.

Not you, or anyone on this thread, just what I've been observing in general.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:42 am

by FriendlyFireFan

Starrio wrote:@FriendlyFireFan, I love Russian women, Ukrainian women, all women really, and I don't think that will ever change, if you feel you have a lot of anger I recommend the book "Letting Go" by David. R. Hawkins. Pretty much everything that man writes is profound. I highly recommend it.

Thank you; I'll look for it on Amazon now.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:50 am

by netzerkaiser

I read a huge history of Russia, it took me ages, from a book written about 20 years ago. The Ukraine, came out of the story as a region that was ravaged for centuries by Tartars & the Ottoman Empire as a weak law-less underbelly, particularly for the Ottoman slave trade. It may not seem relevant here, & I don't condone what Putin did (I'm just trying to understand it)... but historically the Ottomans were the main enemy in this region.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:29 am

by netzerkaiser

This is awfully sad. I hoped I'd wake up & a treaty would be signed, but fighting seems to be intensifying. If so, then this will be nightmare & Putin will have to shoulder the blame for what he unleashed.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:05 pm

by robin_reid

Starrio wrote:
robin_reid wrote:I guess you guys know who is Klaus Schwab and his WEF, well in old spechs he mentioned favourably “world leaders” like Trudeau, Macron etc and including Putin as well. So all the bickering about Ukraine is just a political theatre, all of this is part of the Great Reset. They’re all in this together.

Putin too? Are you sure? The ones I know involved with the WEF are:

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:57 pm

by Starrio

robin_reid wrote:
Starrio wrote:
robin_reid wrote:I guess you guys know who is Klaus Schwab and his WEF, well in old spechs he mentioned favourably “world leaders” like Trudeau, Macron etc and including Putin as well. So all the bickering about Ukraine is just a political theatre, all of this is part of the Great Reset. They’re all in this together.

Putin too? Are you sure? The ones I know involved with the WEF are:

I still have my doubts, I'm not denying it completely, but being Putin in a position of power he is likely to meet with these people from time to time, but it doesn't mean he is following their agendas. However it is always a possibility.

One major thing that makes me doubt is that these controlling groups are so confident in their power that they no longer hide their agendas or members, they put them out there for the public to see because they feel untouchable, and that's the reason why I would not count Putin as part of the whole plot since he has never been mentioned as part of them.

Then again even if he was part of it hypothetically speaking, there is always a chance that type of involvement is done to gather intelligence to use it against it, or above it, but there is no way to know for sure that's the case either, just another possibility.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:25 pm

by netzerkaiser

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Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:13 pm

by FriendlyFireFan

Thank you, netzerkaiser. I enjoy your posts here.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:42 am

by stewpidaz

netzerkaiser wrote:NATO have been provoking Moscow since Glasnost. I lived in Russia in early '90's & I saw first-hand how the expectations & hopes of Russians were betrayed by west. No help was given. I saw once proud old ladies driven to begging on side-streets when rouble went kaputt. Myself, I saw it.

I lost all faith in NATO in '99 with the lies over Kosovo & the pariah made of Serbia in a 10 year war where Serbia | Croatia | Bosnia / Albania were all equally complicit...

There are 2 guilty parties here, Russia & NATO, I'm no fan of disgusting NKVD / KGB brutality / sadism, but I think / hope Russia's gone past that.

Lets hope this de-escalates. China's stance encourages me that it will. Fair play to China, they're not sitting on fence. They're saying 'stop this now'.

You sounds brainwashed by Russian media to be claiming that poverty in Russia is the fault of the west/NATO

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 pm

by nelson_sanchez

OK, lets say that you live in a apartment building of 50 units and 47 units are people who dont like you at all. how one can live at pease in such situation. regular people in russia are like the kis in the 3 apartments playing and going to school with the 47 others.

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 pm

by nelson_sanchez

Army of death

10,000 Chechen soldiers prepare to go to Ukraine
i was to upload the video but The extension mov is not allowed. sorry

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:58 pm

by Iddaoeeok

nelson_sanchez wrote:OK, lets say that you live in a apartment building of 50 units and 47 units are people who dont like you at all. how one can live at pease in such situation. regular people in russia are like the kis in the 3 apartments playing and going to school with the 47 others.

What's your point?

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:08 pm

by goodfella89

Ukrainians are the bravest people on earth. They fight for the freedom of the entire western civilization.
Shame on german government for not helping Ukraine with weapons.
Burn in hell Putin, Kadyrov and Lukashenko!!!

Re: Putin is staging false flag attacks on own troops

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:41 pm

by Armistad

nelson_sanchez wrote:OK, lets say that you live in a apartment building of 50 units and 47 units are people who dont like you at all. how one can live at pease in such situation. regular people in russia are like the kis in the 3 apartments playing and going to school with the 47 others.

Yes it's uncomfortable, but you can't just go and kill your neighbors right?