Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[CanadianCouple]

This has turned into such a stupid fucking thread.

Well, thank the stupid morons that I have to educate for that.How is that thing of offering your wife to strangers to fuck her is going for you?

Lol. An actual real life tough guy doesnt pop off on an internet forum like this. Highly insecure.

[donroperto]

This has turned into such a stupid fucking thread.

Well, thank the stupid morons that I have to educate for that.How is that thing of offering your wife to strangers to fuck her is going for you?

Lol. An actual real life tough guy doesnt pop off on an internet forum like this. Highly insecure.

Things are not always what they seem.Than again, they might be exactly what they seam.You didn't answer my question about your whore of a wife, you beta cuckold.It's easy to find out if I'm a tough guy, all you have to do is meet me in real life, if you had the balls for it, you weakling.

[CanadianCouple]

Things are not always what they seem.Than again, they might be exactly what they seam.You didn't answer my question about your whore of a wife, you beta cuckold.It's easy to find out if I'm a tough guy, all you have to do is meet me in real life, if you had the balls for it, you weakling.

Hilarious.

[ayrtight]

Can we get a busty dark Srpsky who takes a triple facial in the style of the old Anal Intensive DVD´s .
Meanwhile the girl should say : I am reviving this old facial style that Woodman has copied from Christoph Clark and Christopher Alexander .

[BlueShadow]

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I don't have understood the irony, there is nothing to brainwash with Ivana Cherry and Blue Angel XD

BTW watch out for the Coronavirus, be safe...

I'm serious, the virus is a reality, also the declaration of emergency from the Hungarian GOV is a first signal and first step for the quarantine. Who knows if they will now do more controlls, I am sure that if they seriously start to check they will discover many more cases than they declare ... the same in other countries of Europe, France (tomorrow the president will speak ... Germany ...)
Let's hope that other territory of Europe will not take measures too late.

[YumYum74]

BTW watch out for the Coronavirus, be safe...

I'm serious, the virus is a reality, also the declaration of emergency from the Hungarian GOV is a first signal and first step for the quarantine. Who knows if they will now do more controlls, I am sure that if they seriously start to check they will discover many more cases than they declare ... the same in other countries of Europe, France (tomorrow the president will speak ... Germany ...)
Let's hope that other territory of Europe will not take measures too late.

Were I'm at we're already starting to shut down. Working from home, don't go out unless you really have to, stay in if you just have a minor cold. Sports events have been canceled, both amateur and professional. Schools closing due to lack of teachers, etc.
This will happen for the porn industry as well, sooner rather than later. At this point it's inevitable. It's gonna get way worse before it will get any better.

[Iddaoeeok]

I thought someone was going to blame Woodman for coronavirus there.

[BlueShadow]

BTW watch out for the Coronavirus, be safe...

I'm serious, the virus is a reality, also the declaration of emergency from the Hungarian GOV is a first signal and first step for the quarantine. Who knows if they will now do more controlls, I am sure that if they seriously start to check they will discover many more cases than they declare ... the same in other countries of Europe, France (tomorrow the president will speak ... Germany ...)
Let's hope that other territory of Europe will not take measures too late.

Were I'm at we're already starting to shut down. Working from home, don't go out unless you really have to, stay in if you just have a minor cold. Sports events have been canceled, both amateur and professional. Schools closing due to lack of teachers, etc.
This will happen for the porn industry as well, sooner rather than later. At this point it's inevitable. It's gonna get way worse before it will get any better.

For me is very strange that they shot porn (I speak of porn since we are in a porn forum) like if nothing is happening in Europe.
The state of emergcy of Hungary (Budapest is the big center of porn production with Prague) should be already a sign. And what happened in China, South Korea, Italy confirm that the only solution is shout down, the fact that in Hungary they have few cases mean nothing, the virus is already there, and it's very contagious. Limiting pubs and restaurant to only 100 people is useless...
I'm sure this will change in a week. It's only the first step of a more serious measure. If they are not blind, and if they will do more tampons. Impossible that the cases are only 13.
In France yesterday was 1000 cases, today 2200... Today the first minister will announce "something".
Same in Germany.
Austria have closed the schools.
What they do in Hungary is too weak.

[BlueShadow]

I thought someone was going to blame Woodman for coronavirus there.

If one of the model have the coronavirus... And if he fuck more girl everyday. But this can apply to all industry in Hungary and Czech. Models can be a serious vehicle of trasmission.
Coronavirus is also asynthomatic.
And isn't something you can found in a normal blood test.

[Jocke]

Well, the problem is mass meetings. Most of us will get covid for a week without problems. But we don't want everyone with a pre condition to get it at the same time or the hospitals will not suffice.

[BlueShadow]

And they hare happy of it?




Seems like Trump: We are not afraid!... A week after the NBA closed, Washington in an emergency, flights closed to and from Europe.
Underestimating is not the best way for when they inevitably have to be ready for more restrictive measures . Just a matter of time.


NOT YET. He said right. XD
Let's hope isn't too late.


And Cayenne:


Yeah, let's hope that in a week there will be something to laugh about.

[proxy001]

And they hare happy of it?




Seems like Trump: We are not afraid!... A week after the NBA closed, Washington in an emergency, flights closed to and from Europe.
Underestimating is not the best way for when they inevitably have to be ready for more restrictive measures . Just a matter of time.


NOT YET. He said right. XD
Let's hope isn't too late.


And Cayenne:


Yeah, let's hope that in a week there will be something to laugh about.

Woody`s smile is similar to your Joker @s
Btw Cayenne know well he does@nt really take care of this kind of health cares, he`s fucking without condom even girls without test sometime, only plays the carry boy. I remember when was with him in Slovenian erotic fair he just told me he fucked some girl was there for show without condom, he shoot with condom only because of Sophie Paris the mother of his son..

[Iddaoeeok]

He looks barely human there, is that Botox or Photoshop or surgery?

[IndyPleco]

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So, one, he's an absolute moron because the other model is a different height and weight:

Two, he is beyond pathetic for being vindictive against Empatic Models. Sending a model "to LP behind his back". Imagine a modeling agency sending models on modeling jobs so the models and the agency can make money.

Nothing we didn't already know, but still...

[NotACuck]

He looks barely human there, is that Botox or Photoshop or surgery?

Pierre Woodman has always looked barely human. That's why people buy his porn -- because he's short, fat, hairy, bald and not handsome at all. Just like Torbe from putalocura. He's the type of guy who without money would be an incel or marreid to some toxic, dominating 5/10 woman.

[BlueShadow]

Two, he is beyond pathetic for being vindictive against Empatic Models. Sending a model "to LP behind his back". Imagine a modeling agency sending models on modeling jobs so the models and the agency can make money.

Nothing we didn't already know, but still...

I really don't understand what he wanted to prove ... except that he refused Taylee Wood, because she is too fat according to him!
(you don't see the face?? is clearly visible in the third photo, and all the girls have different tattoos, one doesn't have it ...) LOL
To then booked her only after the LP scenes...

So, as I said in the Taylee Wood thread, ''Nice catch'' remains a bullshit, his members should be better informed before speaking.

[BlueShadow]

I'll give you a news.
Pirates (your members) will also spread the full work.

Now I certainly do not want to give credit those who spread the work of others, and to be clear I don't say this for support piracy, but it is impossible to prevent piracy.
The only way, as I always say, is to give valid incentives to people to buy legally, and to make them feel rewarded, and to give butchered videos and to write every time "soon you will see" (when even years pass then) is not a nice way.


Give pirates incomplete videos ... (incidentally futile, in practice it is not that the full video will not be pirated) but the fans are also damaged, after 2 years of waiting they find themselves having to wait for yet another update.
If they are happy, I'm no one to judge...

[IndyPleco]

He's completely delusional. As if pirates remotely give a shit. Much of that stuff is automated, and it requires zero effort to spread the full version when it does come out. He's just annoying his real customers (surprised he still has those but whatever) by selling them an incomplete product. xD

[BlueShadow]

Well, now he say something good:
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Only 1 week ago was boasting in restaurant and show to the world that ''corona panic'' was not the main spirit'' (like if it was only a psychosis) But well...

[jetsetter7472000]

On top of likely being a bastard, he is an incredibly poor director and an even worse performer. I find most of his videos to be virtually unwatchable. Even during his days with Private, his shortcomings as a director squandered the "talents" of some incredibly beautiful performers. His "success" there was a function of high budgets granted to him by Private to film in exotic locales, have high-end sets & acquire these beautiful performers.

[dap-addict]

plus: he also ways had very good scouts!

This said PW still contributed really a lot to popularize porn and make it attractive for girls working in porn at those Private days.
He also was one of the very first to see the potential of post-soviet talent pool.

[proxy001]

On top of likely being a bastard, he is an incredibly poor director and an even worse performer. I find most of his videos to be virtually unwatchable. Even during his days with Private, his shortcomings as a director squandered the "talents" of some incredibly beautiful performers. His "success" there was a function of high budgets granted to him by Private to film in exotic locales, have high-end sets & acquire these beautiful performers.

On top of likely being a bastard, he is an incredibly poor director and an even worse performer. I find most of his videos to be virtually unwatchable. Even during his days with Private, his shortcomings as a director squandered the "talents" of some incredibly beautiful performers. His "success" there was a function of high budgets granted to him by Private to film in exotic locales, have high-end sets & acquire these beautiful performers.

Totally agree with what you said. He would be a NOBODY without the amount of CASH provided by PRIVATE to pay Extravaganza, and build the the best team by using the best people working for him. And when I say this, I know exactly he paid sometime 200% more than any other director could pay to have the most beautiful girls, best and more extreme shooting locations, best equipment, and safety, all.
Until aa Alessandro Del Mar had a 100 K USD budget for shooting the master of 3 movies with 15 new faces + 15 pros in exotic an location,and he could do 5 movies from this budget, our Woodman had 300 K USD for same reason, and made only 3 movies but with 60 new faces +15 pros in 3 exotic locations.
Since Frank Thring and Alessandro del Mar were shooting their scene in studios they`ve paid 500 USD location cost, our Woodman was shooting in the Hungarian psychiatric state institute ( they should keep him there ), in the state bookstore, castles of museum values.
He paid even to be protected, to get in touch with people can feel safe when walking on streets...
Others, his "competitors" were under the necessity to be 5 times more skilled, and solve economically much simple way their tasks.
Woodman was always privileged in every sense.And of course he always tried to make skilled people lives impossible to keep himself positioned.
Only 2 choices with Woodman. Work for him, be under his total control, or be his enemy.
Same for models. Play his lover, let him fuck you in the ass whenever he need, the way he wish, for the money he want pay you, or just go away from him the fahr possible, take in consideration, if you had the bad luck meet him ,and you are skilled, beautiful and beloved model, no choice to escape from his bad will...

Being performer ? Are you making a joke ?
He could feel performer when he will do the cumshot full on the face of a fastidious 40;years old skinny hanging breasts woman in a stinking cold store directed by someone shouting at him to get his dick harder in front of minimum 10 other people watching him with regret on their face
He is the performer everyone of us can be if we have enough money make us and our partner feel comfortable

[proxy001]

plus: he also ways had very good scouts!

This said PW still contributed really a lot to popularize porn and make it attractive for girls working in porn at those Private days.
He also was one of the very first to see the potential of post-soviet talent pool.

Give me the half of the money he spend, and I`ll make 3 times more content, with 3 times more beautiful girls in 3 times better locations

[dap-addict]

Clue were his scouts, those finding those beautiful girls for him.

I heard of one Russian guy getting offered 8k or more fix per mt by PW to deliver him an x amount of girls exclusively around 2000. Not sure its true, though.

[proxy001]

Clue were his scouts, those finding those beautiful girls for him.

I heard of one Russian guy getting offered 8k or more fix per mt by PW to deliver him an x amount of girls exclusively around 2000. Not sure its true, though.

No way.... I was next to him those times. He had a latvian photographer he used as scout, and also sometime working for him as photographer. He paid 100 USD for every girl passed his casting getting fucked by him + same amount after every scene done by the model. In special cases ( getting a virgin beauty, twins, or beauty contest winner girls, top models first timers he paid extra finding fees even for just casting interviews. He always tried to make the good scouts work exclusively for him.(k sounds too much, but 2-3 K could be ok for around 2000`s, as I was paid 1850 USD, but made sometime double.Counting that those times from 100 models worked for him around 60 were scouted by me, and the rest coming from others... I was exclusive scout and assistant the first 2-3 years until he started manipulate the models I find him, and turn them against me, only making problems, and when this was too much, and he used to send my models on my back to escort in Abu Dzhabi, and his clients in France, doing barter business with them with other high classs escort business related people, I decided to take the control in my hands, and opened my agency. He had to pay me agency fee after, and take care not to even try talk to my models on my back.
As for other scouts from ex Soviet Union, he had the Ucrainian Nikoletta he made her from model been his scout, and when she started to deliver models for others as well ( GianFranco Romagnoli agency as partner) he just found the way to put her in trouble and be arrested and jailed. ( He convinced Nikoletta and paid her find him an underage girl, paid her, and paid some guys to make fake passport to the girl Visa to work for his competitors in Hungary. He wanted put in trouble people like Rocco, and other Italian competitors like Gianni Di Palma, Alessandro del Mar, Mario Salieri, people were those times growing up, and cut his budget at Private. Finally Nikoletta got jailed.Than he started to replace her with Juliana Grandi. Same happen with Juliana, at the beginning she was loyal exclusively working with girls for him, but what Woodman was expecting always was almost impossible to be done, exagerated, and almost a suicide game...what never can be paid enough.
He always put in trouble all his ex assistants from past. He did the same with Salvatore, Nichols, Nikoletta, JP Lejeune, Judith Fox, with me, just what I know. The only one was Gabriella Wolf he could not really put her in shit even he tried, just because she become the scout and girlfriend of a powerful arab prince and took Pierre`s escort business in she`s own hands, and after when already become rich girl become the girlfriend of another powerful and rich Hungarian oligarch I think same he feels about Juliana now,waiting for the right moment. He is exactly as a spider, day and night making plans how to find the way catch people in his web and exterminate them. In his mind does`nt count family, money, nothing at all when about his schizophrenic ideas of push down the people were the most important make him big, but they know him best.

[Iddaoeeok]

our Woodman was shooting in the Hungarian psychiatric state institute ( they should keep him there )

LOL, good one.

[BlueShadow]

1 ''Anyway it was the first and last time I did a contract with a model. I have made hundreds of moral agreements before and after that but never again on paper ...''

-Moral agreements? No trying to manipulate someone at your will is called 'moral agreements'?
Porn world remains a business, and in the business willingly or unwillingly, it's a question of money, how do you pretend to have an exclusivity by someone without the "professional" model having something in return or is somehow also favored by exclusivity? A contract also serves to protect the model.
Obviously he tries to have "exclusives" trying to manipulate the new girl with words instead of a contract (cheaper ...), sometimes it works, sometimes not (but it is a calculated risk), but in the end who care? In the end he has nothing to lose, only the model can lose something if in the meantime, as often happens, she retires, but has given up on other potential works.
I have a clearly example of that:
Aisha Lark casting, the model after the casting was so happy that she said ''now I want to always anal!'' But of course the good grandfather (without ulterior motives...yeah...) immediately tries to dampen her enthusiasm, saying better to speak with your agent and blah blah blah, the manipulation had already started, and this not because he really cares of the model, but because he cares only of his business, if a girl like anal and want to do that and don't see other motivation to stop her in doing more anal.
With Aisha Lark worked, she retired after 1 and half year, losing a good amount of money without anal. With Ginebra Bellucci did't worked. And so on. He always try, sometime works, sometime not, but in the end he have only to earn with stolen exclusivity.

Or also first DP, I still remember when he tried to ''screw '' Lexi Lowe with an improvised DP (very PROFESSIONAL !!), she refused (but unfortunately not all the girls are mature like her and react in the same way) PW's reaction was not beautiful to see ... And is all online, anyone can check the facts.




2 ''But yes I spended 8000 euros last fall on the twins but only after I got them front of me together and I even did not know Lady Zee had a twins sister when she left Budapest. I decided to shoot more at the condition their agency keep them anal exclusive for me until march.
Sadly the month after they went at the circus without their agent told me anything and of course I was furious because I did not know at this time they will become my second sale of 2019.''

-Oh yes, we all know that he like to put condition...
So in practice: if you keep the anal exclusivity (without a regular contract!! And without any duty.) I will give you more work, this at my home is more close to blackmail. Or at least there is a kind of psychological pressure. Depends on point of view... It's a promise of more subsequent works.

As before, I can give an other example (that anyone can judge how they want, I just leave the facts):
In the second casting interview of Aspen Richardsen she say clearly: ''You fucked my ass but then you never give me that movie (his production) work...''
This can mean nothing or all, it depends. Things that people can easily check, but maybe I should stop to give facts, people want fakes.



3 ''People knowing me, even some people who dislike me, know how much I hate escorting and on top hate to paid for sex. It's a non sens for many people to tell that when you paid a girl after the sex she did with you or your team, but read the internet and you'll see how many girls explain they never knew anything about money with me until all was not finished. Even recently I was answering on ADT to someone about Emma Hix, so I did some search about her firt anal and also first DP. I found out she said she ignored even she will have sex with me and even less about anal sex, reason why she was not perfectly clean and today she regrets it !!!''

Well pay before... after...it's just a temporal question...
BTW I only questioning myself (because I'm very curious, curiosty is fundamental for learning things) if a girl has sex with someone (we are speaking in general, and in a hypotetically way) and is then paid without having a scene to show can be considered adult entertainment work.
A young and fresh girl should know the difference between adult model work and other things...
And the 99% of the girl on WCX that have more scene did ''something'' after the interview, even if you don't will see.

Emma Hix of course now she regret it (after she have understood how business work for real), was manipulated good. XD




4 ''Also, and I will conclude on that, when people accuse me to brainwash a girl to not go at the circus yes if it's a newbie just starting porn with me I tell her the priority is to learn this business and become strong enough to handle the impact of a harcore scene as they do there. The simple fact all serious agency refuse to send newbies to them is clear I think and as nothing to do with me.''

Dear Woodman, the problem isn't LP. Girls can do anal also for other production apart LP you know? You try to block anal, not LP (LP is just a consequence).
(Of course there is no problem to convince a 'newbie' to do anal/DP/piss on her first scene... very softcore LOL)
Let's see if Alisia Wonderland (girl that you are very advertising, and for which he says she is free to work for any production she wants..) will do anal... Bwahahahahah



And no need to degrade anything (we have also speak good when the facts are good, beauty from the east, private etc.) we say fact, people can judge, But there are many idiots in this world. You can agree with me on this point...

[NotACuck]

3 ''People knowing me, even some people who dislike me, know how much I hate escorting and on top hate to paid for sex. It's a non sens for many people to tell that when you paid a girl after the sex she did with you or your team, but read the internet and you'll see how many girls explain they never knew anything about money with me until all was not finished. Even recently I was answering on ADT to someone about Emma Hix, so I did some search about her firt anal and also first DP. I found out she said she ignored even she will have sex with me and even less about anal sex, reason why she was not perfectly clean and today she regrets it !!!''

Well pay before... after...it's just a temporal question...
BTW I only questioning myself (because I'm very curious, curiosty is fundamental for learning things) if a girl has sex with someone (we are speaking in general, and in a hypotetically way) and is then paid without having a scene to show can be considered adult entertainment work.
A young and fresh girl should know the difference between adult model work and other things...
And the 99% of the girl on WCX that have more scene did ''something'' after the interview, even if you don't will see.

Emma Hix of course now she regret it (after she have understood how business work for real), was manipulated good. XD

First,

Pierre is the epitome of delusional. He can't seriously believe that any of these beautiful young women would sleep with his ugly, bald, hairy, short, fat ass if money wasn't involved, can he?

Second,

All women in hardcore porn are prostitutes. The presence of a camera doesn't magically change anything. Therefore all the women Pierre has had sex with were prostitutes, whether he published the video or not.

[BlueShadow]

Just checked the casting hard section and xxxx section of your favorite site Mr. Jean. The question is: Who? There is nothing to see from the ''exclusives new model launched in the past 3 months.'' Just interview.

I'm not sure what you mean by exclusives new model.

Exclusive in anal ('till now)?
Well, we can mention Asia Rae, Zaawaadi, oh, yes Christina Miller.
For ''look how many'' I was expecting...well, many...

New?
They aren't new to porn for sure.

Let's see the xxxx section, yes, Tabitha Poison, but not exclusive for sure.
Just the first scene of Alisia Wonderland, but no anal.

When he will release some anal (exclusive) of new fresh model (but when the scene will be out they will no longer be fresh/new, probably retired...) let me know... if you continue to pay him maybe in 2-3 years w'll see something updated.

[BlueShadow]

Of course I was referring to this (this fucking 'edit' don't work...)

[BlueShadow]

On LP:
Stasia Si (new model, anal exclusive 'till now, also first DP, first dap)
Juicy Leila (the same)
Lana Bunny (first all)
Tori Dakota (new model, first anal, first DP, exclusive 'till now)
Bella Breeze (new model, anal exc 'till now)
Taylee Wood (started here, first all)
Pinky Breeze (new model, first DP, DAP, IR apart the anal those things are exc 'till now)
Bella Mur (started here, first all, exc 'till now)
Alice Fox (new, first anal exc)
Ariel Adams (new, first anal)
Sweetie Plum (new, first DP, first IR exc 'till now)
Light Fairy (new model, first anal, first DP, DP exc 'till now)
Lily cox (new,first anal, dp exc 'till now)
Stella Paint (new model,first anal, DP exc 'till now)

and without waiting the 'to be continued SOON.'

[BlueShadow]

And there is a main difference, LP isn't a casting site, but there are more new model in hardcore scene, on WCX there are mostly only interviews for the 'new models' (should be called ''to be updated.com'').
So, 'new model launched'' in which sense?

[proxy001]

Of course I was referring to this (this fucking 'edit' don't work...)

I love when the real Jean Pierre Gerbier lose his mind and start talking to himself on his own forum. These are desperate moments, doctors told him do this way, not
to cut his veins on the forearm, as he did twice, when was young
Pierre plays the cool guy does`nt care of what others talk about him, and in the same time he reply as Jean ( the supporting side of his sick mind personality), doing same typing errors.
Why need to polish your EGO Monsieur Gerbier ? Your wive does`nt care of it anymore ? Your son is telling papa to the neighbor, and he thinks you`re an alien at home walking up and down and talking to yourself in front of a mirror ?

[proxy001]

On LP:
Stasia Si (new model, anal exclusive 'till now, also first DP, first dap)
Juicy Leila (the same)
Lana Bunny (first all)
Tori Dakota (new model, first anal, first DP, exclusive 'till now)
Bella Breeze (new model, anal exc 'till now)
Taylee Wood (started here, first all)
Pinky Breeze (new model, first DP, DAP, IR apart the anal those things are exc 'till now)
Bella Mur (started here, first all, exc 'till now)
Alice Fox (new, first anal exc)
Ariel Adams (new, first anal)
Sweetie Plum (new, first DP, first IR exc 'till now)
Light Fairy (new model, first anal, first DP, DP exc 'till now)
Lily cox (new,first anal, dp exc 'till now)
Stella Paint (new model,first anal, DP exc 'till now)

and without waiting the 'to be continued SOON.'

You are wrong Bunny, we don`t see the many exclusives as he say, because they are all escorting

[BlueShadow]

After I gave evidence (that anyone can easily check) that unfounded accusations and bullshit (saying that the scene of Martina Smeraldi was probably shot during the lockdown) were moving on his forum by a member...with 3 post... he modified his post, adding after the points: ''the scene was filmed 3 weeks ago'', perhaps he also checked Martina Smeraldi's [spam] himself.
He denied a member who spoke badly of LP by telling the truth. Coronavirus also does good things. Or maybe is just a phase. Something isn't right. When he says no more warfare, I want all this to stop...Is likely that something is coming up...

[ExtremePornFan]

Please let this thread die.

[dap-addict]

Is there a corona virus ban on porn shootings in Czech?
I dont think so!


Anyway, of course the last Italian cutie was shot end of February and not even in March.

[IndyPleco]

Please let this thread die.

One thread is easy to ignore. It beats having him discussed in every model topic.

[proxy001]

First,

Pierre is the epitome of delusional. He can't seriously believe that any of these beautiful young women would sleep with his ugly, bald, hairy, short, fat ass if money wasn't involved, can he?

Second,

All women in hardcore porn are prostitutes. The presence of a camera doesn't magically change anything. Therefore all the women Pierre has had sex with were prostitutes, whether he published the video or not.

Some people chose to have a pornstar wive at home, and go out sometime fuck some prostitutes, others they chose to fuck every day pornstars, and chose to have as wive prostitutes.
Let you know guess which side is Woodman

[BlueShadow]

How to give even more inconvenience to paying customers LOL
And judging from these comments its objective, not my personal opinion.

And what will he laugh at? I suppose members who can't see and / or download the desired version pay less for the subscription, right?
And, by the way, how do they see the update since it is not reported not even on the info of the video?
I would never pay for a site that does these things.
But I repeat, happy them, I am not one to judge, but it is clear that someone laughs at the inconvenience created (voluntarily) to the paying members.
Thats it.


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as said, when he starts to do good, saying enough with the war, I want all this to stop (his word, bit his word worth nothing, incoherence, remember...) is only because he is studying the next move (chess) to speak bad of imaginary enemies.