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Hi Joachim,

It seems that your studs barely get the tip of their cocks in the model's ass, this is bit disappointing as we'd like to see harder action with balls deep fucking. Example of typical penetration from your scenes is below:

And this is what Balls Deep should look like:

joachim-kessef wrote:Hi
it nice you know when i was shooting the first anal and first black cock here a lot people insult me about that ah the call that tip fucking because it was not hard enough and we didn't put the cock inside so that the the result i got it affect me because i was trying to shoot girls who dont work or who never work it sad i explain because with new girl you have 2 result you get lucky then she will do great job or she is bad then you forgot her but nobody understand that

Please stop insulting Joachim as it affects him on a personal level. It is extremely hard work to not slip up, and actually stick more than a tip inside the girl's ass. You just don't understand it.

drevokocur66 wrote:Please stop insulting Joachim as it affects him on a personal level. It is extremely hard work to not slip up, and actually stick more than a tip inside the girl's ass. You just don't understand it.

I'm not insulting Joachim, I love him and his work, just making simple suggestion. Love and peace to everyone.

DStair wrote:

drevokocur66 wrote:Please stop insulting Joachim as it affects him on a personal level. It is extremely hard work to not slip up, and actually stick more than a tip inside the girl's ass. You just don't understand it.

I'm not insulting Joachim, I love him and his work, just making simple suggestion. Love and peace to everyone.

You missed the sarcasm on my part I completely agree with you on this, but Joachim will play the victim here. Nothing will change.

Victim of what i assume the scene like put the cock and have people see the action i dont believe to put all cock inside so if you put all cocks inside you dont see nothing
i just dont like people who want to give lesson of doing scene

Personally I don't think this is a huge problem with IV. It is sometimes telling with their scenes - especially during the DAP - that the dicks are not going all the way in. But the caveat is that the guys have really big dicks so the penetration does appear to be sufficient for the scene to class as hard sex and balls deep may simply be too uncomfortable for the girls. On occasion IV have had a girl like Hennessy where the sex is all-out balls deep (although Hennessy of course doesn't do DAP) so I also think the guys are tailoring the depth according to the experience of the girls a little, which I think is totally fine. I'd much rather see a girl in a state of sexual ecstasy via a 2/3 or 3/4 depth fuck from some really well hung guys than looking totally uncomfortable taking it balls deep.

Also if you look at the balls deep pics the OP posted what we can't tell is how big the guy's dick is. My gut feeling is that he isn't as big as Joachim or the other IV guys. He also doesn't look especially hard (particularly on the 2nd pic) so the action might be "balls deep" but it actually looks to me as though he's kind of fucking the girl with his balls. I think they are really unappetising pics personally.

I think depth of penetration is a factor in porn but it's by no means the sole defining factor as to whether a scene is hard and/or hot. Speed is more important IMHO and the IV guys tend to fuck fast and with purpose (ie not frantically fast to disguise technique or ability, which you sometimes get with porn guys). Sometimes IV might certainly be guilty of a little "tip fucking" but I don't think it's anywhere near the problem that many posters believe it to be.

joachim-kessef wrote:Victim of what i assume the scene like put the cock and have people see the action i dont believe to put all cock inside so if you put all cocks inside you dont see nothing
i just dont like people who want to give lesson of doing scene

I know you feel insulted by your post but I don't believe it is the intent of the members, some of us are just trying to tell you what we like. I guess I can only speak for myself but when I make a point to criticize it is because I want buy your scene but from the trailer and personal experience of buying other IV scenes I know it is going to be primarily tip fucking something I don't like. DP and Interracial are my favorite fetish so IV should be easily my favorite studio but I skip most of your scenes based on the trailer tip fucking action.

This is your #4 bought scene and my favorite (balls deep and intense):

^I know all models can't handle intense balls deep action but for the ones that can please shoot it more like below.

This clip is from your 3rd most bought scene another favorite:



All I want is for some balls deep intense fucking with the model getting plenty of pleasure

Hi, I'm not trying to lecture anybody, just explaining my point of view.

As a customer, the reason why I don't buy IV scenes,
is precisely because the sex displayed on IV movies, does not feature balls deep penetration at all,
and if someone were to ask me to describe the sex in IV movies in one word, it would me "lame".

I'm not hating.

Here is an analogy.

When I'm watching futbol on the TV, I want to watch people who can play futbol,
at a level that I could only dream off playing at.

Their futbol skills have to be "spectacular".
If I think that the players "suck", I simply change the TV channel and watch something else.

joachim-kessef wrote: i dont believe to put all cock inside so if you put all cocks inside you dont see nothing

It's more about what makes you feel,
rather than how well you can see it, IMO.

That being said,

IF point the camera, just right, we will be able to see everything regardless of how deep you and your actors can go.







I do buy your movies, when they have the things I want to watch,
I imagine many others as this is one of your best selling movies.

In case it wasn't clear for you, why this scene sold so good.

It was the balls deep sex and amazing action.





Like deepthroats





and balls deep anal, as OP lured me in with his catchy headline.



This is pretty much the reaction we want to see,
come out of the models body and face, when we are thinking "balls deep sex":



^THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN WHEN THE ACTORS ARE JUST KINDA PRETENDING TO PENETRATE THE MODELS^

Other examples I wanted to include:





I hope you don't take this as me "telling you how to do your job"
It's more like me, explaining that if you put this on film, it will magically make more money than normal.

It's all friendly porn talk among people who like porn.

And I love Interracial porn.

OK?

joachim-kessef wrote:Victim of what i assume the scene like put the cock and have people see the action i dont believe to put all cock inside so if you put all cocks inside you dont see nothing
i just dont like people who want to give lesson of doing scene

Are you saying you deliberately try to avoid balls deep penetration in your scenes? I've got to say that seems like a very odd decision, and I'd always assumed the only reason to do this was because the models couldn't manage balls deep penetration with longer cocks.

For me balls deep anal is absolutely always better than shallower penetration.

please don't get me wrong what you call ball deeps it good we like but in the mean time fans can not see the penetration i though i mean my approach is to pound and show up the penetration it my approach now if we go to your approach which is put all cock inside it cover the hole now we decide if guys want we cover all action that we can do it not a problem i believe nice pounding or ball deep and show up the penetration we must found the good middle i just dont believe just ball deep we do that i mean you guys decide
now the second approach is due because the model arrive first black cock and black guy i believe we should be careful otherwise i will not get girls to come to work believe me the already scared of me so if we destroy i will not a lot girls for work
that is my approach now all those bad mouth call that tip fucking
i mean i am here i am open to discuss
to resume new modes take time so we need to be careful now if she is not good i dont shoot her again
also i believe it good to bring fans to see something the girls really like instead of destroy for destroy
and nice ball deep and see the penetration going inside it also kinky you dont think so? i am waiting your suggestions

I have not been involved in this discussion, but I do agree it all depends on the girl and what they can do. New girls (which you have quite a lot of Joachim) obviously will have more trouble with balls deep fucking, while known performers (for example Sasha Colibri) will have an easier job doing balls deep. I personally can live with less balls deep but seeing a girl enjoying herself if she can't do balls deep (yet). But if a girl CAN do it, then I'm all for it of course.

Side note: I have not been buying a lot of IV scenes since I joined this site, but recently I've been buying more and more. To my untrained eye the quality of the scenes is improving for the last month or so.

thanks to heard another person if the complain people said i am victim or tip fucking oh my god i call my serve first black cock and first anal i receive a tons of insult only fews defend my position
again if we have Sindy or Sasha colibri you can put 3 cock and hands no problem then if you new girls you want to preserve little people insult interesting or recently somebody said i am victim oh my god

joachim-kessef wrote:thanks to heard another person if the complain people said i am victim or tip fucking oh my god i call my serve first black cock and first anal i receive a tons of insult only fews defend my position
again if we have Sindy or Sasha colibri you can put 3 cock and hands no problem then if you new girls you want to preserve little people insult interesting or recently somebody said i am victim oh my god

For me You are doing a great Job, im shocked thah some poeple write that the scene with Florane is Fake DAP. Sex and porn are fun and Entertainment, the Body of every model is different and some Guys here are Just addicted to DAP, Tap and other sort of acts. Yeah i like them to and watch it to, but at the end od the day when im following this forum i think someone can not geht Hard If there is no balls deep DAP. If You Sony like it, Font buy it. I think this Site has thousands of customers, and i read often the same shot from the same users.

I can not edit my first post. I was meaning if some one dont Like the scene dont buy it, and i often read the same critic from the same Users

thanks my man but the don't understand the prefer to insult and sometime it pointless

joachim-kessef wrote:thanks my man but the don't understand the prefer to insult and sometime it pointless

No one is insulting you. People tell you they want to see balls deep anal, give you examples but you just bury your head in the sand and go on defensive.
Whatever the problem may be, it is never you. It's the girls, it's the fans, it's this, it's that and poor Joachim is always blamed for something that is not his fault.
Fact, videos you make are mostly tip fucking. Love it, embrace it, because it is your work. It is your style and that is fine.
Feeling insulted because people ask for something you don't make? Grow up.

You know what i prefer to leave it this way i hope you will found something you will enjoy

Ah i forgot to add what Moxoxo said earlier if you dont like it dont buy it and i will add legal has a lot of different director i suggest to watch another one

I hadn't realised that the tipfucking was deliberate. This was something I noticed in a recent scene, and I couldn't quite understand why there were actors with 8" cocks, but they would never go deeper than just putting the tip of the penis inside. If you've got it, use it, I would have thought - or why not just hire guys with 3" cocks?

I can appreciate that in some angles, going 'balls deep' might end up with the guys blocking the view, so sometimes there might be a valid reason for this, but in plenty of shots this clearly wasn't the case - and other studios on this site don't seem to have an issue with this. Personally I like to see the girls get a good hard fucking, and take a full length up the butt - not just a couple of inches penetration.

This is not an attack, and I am perfectly aware I can stop watching and just buy scenes from other directors, I'm just offering a personal preference as one buyer! There's still plenty to enjoy, and some great girls on display - everything else is great, I'd just like to see the guys go a bit deeper.

First about myself i privilégiez to give to fans to not close angles so i dont mind if guys prefer to close angle i am able to do that my commitment is to deliver something nice i want people look the penetration as actor i am talking about myself it mean i want the penetration be seen it not question to not deliver hard pounding believe me we know how to do that too

Joachim, would it be possible to mix things better in the future, i.e. do some penetrations balls deep like other LP studios do it even with long picked BBC actors - GIO's Dylan Brown comes to mind - and than do some fucking according to your concept of putting just the tip inside to see penetration better even though (if I understand you right) the girl can take it deeper? i.e. would it possible to mix user requests with your style a bit?

Hi
of course it possible to see that