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4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:11 pm
by Alan2008
I think having to pay 4 or 5 tickets for a 2 on 1 scene (e.g. Mina/Andy Rye) is too much. What do others think ?

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Re: 4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:42 pm
by dap-addict
Which porn sex acts performed?
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Without DAP I'd call it excessiv.
But DAP can get quite pricey If girl is known or its her 1st.Add wet to DAP and you may a 5tkt level If she's a US starlet with a good social media fellowing. For Mina it's too much of course as she'll ask normal Euro going rates even if she might try to get my re for wet DAP now she' has good sales on LP.

This said, I'd pay 5tkt my 2-4 longest awaited DAPbreaki' even in 2on1 only. ;)

Re: 4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:58 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
Your assumption about prices are wrong. The production cost cant be just connected to the cost of the performers, but there are other facts that increase/decrease the production cost that are "secondly" connected. For example a fly ticket for a model cost 500$ and she suppose to shoot 3 scenes, but for any reason she shoots only one, you understand the cost of the ticket will be charged totally on 1 scene instead than 3 and this increase the price in tickets. There are endless situation that increase (or decrease) the cost and to have a topic about all of them is impossible.
Said that, the quality has cost: if you go on a membership website almost 70% of the production is "filling", on LP when you shoot "filling" you lose money, this is the reason why for example Im starting to increase the "minimum requirements" for consider a talent for more than one scene.

Re: 4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:24 am
by Alan2008
The other things that I wanted to mention is that:
1)You cannot compare the cumshots in a IV scene to the cumshots in a Giorgio or Gonzo scene, so never mind DAP or no DAP, for me the quality of the cumshot is important. I'd rather watch Dylan Brown 1 on 1 scene where Dylan pops more than once that a 2 on 1 with very weak cumshots but has DAP in it.
2)Andi Rye was a hottie when I saw her other shoots. But not sure what happened to her hair at LP and her makeup, and I hate to say this but it looks like you hired Andi Rye's mother for the shoot.

Re: 4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:40 am
by dap-addict
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Your assumption about prices are wrong. The production cost cant be just connected to the cost of the performers, but there are other facts that increase/decrease the production cost that are "secondly" connected. For example a fly ticket for a model cost 500$ and she suppose to shoot 3 scenes, but for any reason she shoots only one, you understand the cost of the ticket will be charged totally on 1 scene instead than 3 and this increase the price in tickets. There are endless situation that increase (or decrease) the cost and to have a topic about all of them is impossible.

Of course its not only the girls fee, Giorgio, but your example already shows that the girls fee is much more % of the overall scene costs than her fly ticket.
Also refering to US imports I precisely ment incl. her high import costs.
Still, Mina traveling probably on cheapliner Air Baltic to Prague can't cost 4/5tkt for a 2on1, even not if its a DAP. If such a gonzo scene costs that much, sth is wrong imho. :confused:

Btw, is OP referring to concrete scenes? With ones?
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Re: 4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:30 pm
by kidloco2
I have changed my opinion over the last couple months and now I think TKT system from consumers' POV is bad anachronism. It causes unnecessary doubts, questions, argumentation over scene price etc. Let's keep scenes' different "credit" values (prices) for producers and reward them accordingly within internal LP system. Let's present them to customers via various options of memberships - not TKTs.

I'm personally tired of thinking about TKTs, checking and all the unnecessary hassle; this way I usually deplete my TKTs over scenes that I thought would be great but they weren't. :mad:

Re: 4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:32 pm
by kidloco2
Back to OP: AFAIK IV has lower sales than GG/Gonzo studios => higher price / scene to survive

Re: 4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:41 am
by drevokocur66
kidloco2 wrote:Back to OP: AFAIK IV has lower sales than GG/Gonzo studios => higher price / scene to survive


ir is the only thing keeping IV alive. Once GIO shoots more ir, IV sales will drop even more. Even when producing wet content, the unmotivated tip fucking just kills the scene.

Re: 4/5 Tickets for 2 on 1 is excesseive

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:00 pm
by dap-addict
dap-addict wrote:Which porn sex acts performed?
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Without DAP I'd call it excessiv.

Finally see witch scenes you are referring to.
I'd say Mina DAP at 4tkts is ok, given we are at high-priced-and-low-sales IV here.
Rye on the other side had to get flown into Prague first, thus even with DP only she has to cost 4tkt or even a bit more. Plane ticket from USA to PRG must have cost quite a bit. Also she needs a hotel.
If it was gonzo, which has a much fairer base tkt pricing, I'd say only in Rye's case it could be ok still. Mina will perform DAP cheaper than to sum up at 4tkt for a 2on1 only.