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Before the directors themselves warned the actors about these arms and hands that most of them hindered during the scenes, but now this act has become frequent and the director does nothing to warn about it , I know that there are positions that cannot prevent arms and hands from getting appearing but I think these irritating arms can be avoided

Of course, those annoying arms and hands are most of the time disturbing some angles during the scenes , sometimes disturbing showing the beautiful face of the girls or during penetrating the girls.

Very valid input!
Soon more...

...only the girls would put arms (left,right, both) on ass cheeks ^^

porninquisitor wrote:...only the girls would put arms (left,right, both) on ass cheeks ^^

I agree!

Joachim is the number one ofender.

I love when guys feel up the girl and molest her while fucking her, it makes it more fucking real, and a million times more appealing than watching some random dick just tip fucking her.

I would always prefer to see a man enjoying himself raming that ass like there is no tomorrow while grabbing everything at the same time

It just looks very manly, and it makes me happy that girls get to be touched with purpose in all those beautiful curves we all like to touch them too.

stratogustav wrote:I love when guys feel up the girl and molest her while fucking her, it makes it more fucking real, and a million times more appealing than watching some random dick just tip fucking her.

I would always prefer to see a man enjoying himself raming that ass like there is no tomorrow while grabbing everything at the same time

It just looks very manly, and it makes me happy that girls get to be touched with purpose in all those beautiful curves we all like to touch them too.

the biggest problem not of the male actors touching the girls, but of most of the times disturbing the angle during the scene, disturbing showing the girl's face disturbing showing penetration during the scenes

drevokocur66 wrote:Joachim is the number one ofender.

The record holder of irritating hands and arms that disturb the scenes is called Angelo Godshack - a new Marcus dupree from the current LP.

Skyscraper67 wrote:the biggest problem not of the male actors touching the girls, but of most of the times disturbing the angle during the scene, disturbing showing the girl's face disturbing showing penetration during the scenes

Sorry I didn't quite understand what you said there, you said something about a face disturbing penetration, it didn't make sense to me what you said there.

What I was talking about is that if you are doggy styling a girl like Kristy Black you want the performers to grab that ass and squeeze those buttcheeks very strong. If they don't, it is frustrating to see such a nice ass not getting properly handled.

I particularly love when the performer holds himself from the girl's hips to get extra strength to do the hard pounding.

The message is simple.. Focus on girl and her assets .. that is also done perfectly most cases.
Obviously not always possible and some want to see guys grabbing the girls hard.

But some guys are always putting their feet into the shot or block/disturb the shot on the expression of the girl.
For some random amatuer fucker I wouldnt mind but I expect the male actors do their homework and rewatch their scenes and think how to do it better
Most do a great job though.

I agree about the screenshots in the op, but I also find it irritating when the actor goes too far trying to keep out of view:

In this example, Dylan has to carry al the weight and is unable to thrust from his side. Had Oscar helped carrying the weight, both studs could have been pounding her, which would have made the position even hotter.

In this example below we can see that the arm and hand could not be touching the girl at the moment when she is in this position because it hindered showing Taylee Wood's beautiful breasts.

Yeah, I love when the tits and butts get used too. Not grabbing those is a sin, and it should be punished.

Definitely feel up the girls more, molest them as much as you can, it makes the scene more natural and less robotic.

DPraved wrote:I agree about the screenshots in the op, but I also find it irritating when the actor goes too far trying to keep out of view:

In this example, Dylan has to carry al the weight and is unable to thrust from his side. Had Oscar helped carrying the weight, both studs could have been pounding her, which would have made the position even hotter.

Very good example!
There has to be a balance, also in order not to have the studs look completely uninvolved and robotic.
Girls bodies have to be shown and seen at max at the same time ofc. But no touching is also wrong sign.

I just want to say, that from my perspective,
it is better when the men touch the women in every way imaginable and OP is just wrong.



here is my "argument"





and porn movies provide plenty of footage
where we can see the babes bodies,
without anything getting in the way

When I fuck a girl I naturally squeeze their buttcheeks because I love buttcheeks, so not seeing it in porn is just disturbing.

Who the fuck fucks a girl without feeling her up?

When you see a hot girl, you want to molest her, that's just nature.

The whole tip fucking thing is absurd.

This is why I hate porn when the guys are positioning themselves to tip fuck. I rather see them pounding that ass and making it sound. It is always more satisfying than tip fucking.

I don't even like cowgirl positions for this reason, if you are going to fuck a girl, fuck her, tip fucking is just stupid.

stratogustav wrote:When I fuck a girl I naturally squeeze their buttcheeks because I love buttcheeks, so not seeing it in porn is just disturbing.

Who the fuck fucks a girl without feeling her up?

When you see a hot girl, you want to molest her, that's just nature.

The whole tip fucking thing is absurd.

This is why I hate porn when the guys are positioning themselves to tip fuck. I rather see them pounding that ass and making it sound. It is always more satisfying than tip fucking.

I don't even like cowgirl positions for this reason, if you are going to fuck a girl, fuck her, tip fucking is just stupid.

Good points!
It would be interesting to see a scene shot BTS-style where a bunch of guys fuck an enthusiastic girl with no regard to what looks good, letting the cameraman try to deal with it from a distance. I want to see passion and intensity, not just closeups of genitals.

DPraved wrote:

stratogustav wrote:When I fuck a girl I naturally squeeze their buttcheeks because I love buttcheeks, so not seeing it in porn is just disturbing.

Who the fuck fucks a girl without feeling her up?

When you see a hot girl, you want to molest her, that's just nature.

The whole tip fucking thing is absurd.

This is why I hate porn when the guys are positioning themselves to tip fuck. I rather see them pounding that ass and making it sound. It is always more satisfying than tip fucking.

I don't even like cowgirl positions for this reason, if you are going to fuck a girl, fuck her, tip fucking is just stupid.

Good points!
It would be interesting to see a scene shot BTS-style where a bunch of guys fuck an enthusiastic girl with no regard to what looks good, letting the cameraman try to deal with it from a distance. I want to see passion and intensity, not just closeups of genitals.

Very well said! Let porn look genuine, not a fiction: I want to see passion and involvement, not cold tip fucking in a sequence of different positions. If for some time we couldn't see the cock in the ass, it's not so bad, as long as the actors enjoy it.

DPraved wrote:Good points!
It would be interesting to see a scene shot BTS-style where a bunch of guys fuck an enthusiastic girl with no regard to what looks good, letting the cameraman try to deal with it from a distance. I want to see passion and intensity, not just closeups of genitals.

That's how a lot of Japanese porn is, and despite the censorship, that aspect is what makes it fantastic.

grey00owl wrote:Very well said! Let porn look genuine, not a fiction: I want to see passion and involvement, not cold tip fucking in a sequence of different positions. If for some time we couldn't see the cock in the ass, it's not so bad, as long as the actors enjoy it.

I agree 100%, it would be great because we would get actual balls deep anal, as opposed of the robotic tip fucking that is so annoying to watch

I'm glad this has been raised because I think it's a problem too. Not the lack of touching and feeling (which some people seem to be reading this as) but rather the guys' hands and arms in bad places. I've never understood the "left hand on right bum cheek" (or vice versa), which the OP captures brilliantly with the very first shot in this thread. Not only does it obstruct the girl's body for the viewer, it's just really awkward looking - not relaxed, like the guy is stretching around the girl for no discernible reason. I generally have to fast-forward those bits but some guys do it for the whole duration of their doggy section. Just so weird and frustrating.

I actually think Neeo is the worst offender with hands. He just constantly moves them. It's like a nano-second of "left hand on right bum cheek" then "plant hands in centre of back" then "grab girl's neck" etc. etc. It's just too "busy" and impossible to relax with as a viewer.

Yes the guys should touch and feel the girls but they should also gravitate to a natural hand position that they hold for a decent length of time. Hands on hips the right way round (ie not crossed over) doesn't seem like too much to ask as a usual default setting. It's just the very best way to show off a girl's body as well. No visual obstruction.

There are other reasons that I don't really like Gonzo of late (specifically the male ego and aggression overload) but this is another and it does seem to be linked to those other aspects in a way. It's like the guys are showing off or trying to assert themselves as the stars. It's all a bit "Look at me - I've got a hand position gimmick!" They need to just settle down and relax, in very many ways.

I also think just one hand in the ass is annoying too.

They should be using both hands to grab, hold, and ram the shit out of that ass, like fucking in real life.

Less tip fucking and more deep pounding is always the best route.

Again the arms and hands in the wrong place at the wrong time, I am not saying that male actors should not touch girls during scenes, but rather avoid tocalas on certain occasions, as they often make it difficult to show girls' faces, breasts beautiful etc.

^ That's a good one as it highlights another bad use of arms, which is the anchor stud in reverse cowgirl wrapping his arm around the girl's waist....sort of draping her. A clean view of the girl's waist and breasts is really important and it also just looks like the guy is sort of swamped by the girl and a bit lost under there....like he's clinging on or something. This used to be a real problem with IV a while back but touch wood they've fixed this now. Again the hands should just be lightly on the hips. By all means touch the girl, feel her breasts etc. but always with a view to taking the hands back to the hips.

These feel like fairly basic things but it's surprising how often they do blight an LP scene.

This thread can't pass without also raising Ian Scott and that awful thing he always does of planting his hands centrally while pounding away (both doggy and missionary). That's just terrible. It looks really geriatric - like he has to do it to keep himself upright (the porn stud equivalent of a cane or something). And the downward pressure into the girl just looks very unsexy. I doubt it hurts them but again it's not relaxed, just looks really frantic and uncomfortable. I really struggle with Ian Scott these days for this reason.

Can you guys imagine, being a porn actor,
get paid to fuck Kristy Black in the ass,
and being told by the director...

but, you can't touch her ass, "because"

magizi87 wrote:Can you guys imagine, being a porn actor,
get paid to fuck Kristy Black in the ass,
and being told by the director...

but, you can't touch her ass, "because"

We are not saying that the actor does not touch the girl! but to avoid touching the girl on serious occasions, as it often gets in the way of showing her beautiful face or even her beautiful body

magizi87 wrote:Can you guys imagine, being a porn actor,
get paid to fuck Kristy Black in the ass,
and being told by the director...

but, you can't touch her ass, "because"

Who is saying that the studs can't touch a girl's ass?

That would be horrible, Kristy Black ass should be squeezed at all times if possible. I would get cramps just by squeezing her ass so much, and it would be worth it.

magizi87 wrote:Can you guys imagine, being a porn actor,
get paid to fuck Kristy Black in the ass,
and being told by the director...

but, you can't touch her ass, "because"

Well you said the KEY word, "PAID"
You're getting PAID, so STFU and do WHAT I SAY! WHEN I SAY! HOW I SAY!!!
So whatever is or isn't being said, doesn't matter, (for this point) just that the DIRECTORS direct and actors ACT. No freelancing by actors, and no mailing it in as a director.
Bottom line really, everyone can do MUCH better in their respective jobs....

great examples of hands and arms showing up at the wrong time and in the wrong place!

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