PornBox.com

Hello.

I been wanting to come back recently,
since the LP new filter system makes it doable for me.
(Before I just thought LP became disgusting, sorry!)

But,

Gonzo movies seem to lack in the fun factor area.
Which for me, it used to be it's main appeal.

It's the apparent lack of "manhandle".

To me, manhandle encompases all the things the man can do
to get his woman's heart racing, to excite her, to make her feel good and beautiful.

And IMO, Gonzo movies are very lacking in that area.

I think this happens because of a combination of several things.
But mainly, because movies seem to be to focused on the aesthetic part.

It seems like male actors are afraid to get in the way of the camera.
So, during airtight parts, be it DP or DAP, in cowgirl, doggy or whatever,
all manhandle elements come to a complete halt.

As a man, if you don't want to constantly be touching, kissing, fucking,
and otherwise manipulating the woman in question,
and instead it seems like guys are trying to minimize all contact,
which means to me that they are not really all that attracted to her,
and in a way, it makes me think that the woman in the scene is LESS hot.

Woman goes from being somewhat uncomfortable to enjoying herself.



Even Though Gonzo produces mostly gangbang *ish movies,
There should be moments where only one or two man are handling the girl.

This makes for some change of pace and allows the man
to more easily manipulate the woman, manhandling her,
fucking her better and deeper, kiss her, etc

and it allows the camera to get a hold of her facial reaction more directly.
Which IMO plays an important role in communicating to the viewer that she is
being challenged but also enjoying herself.



Often it seems like 1 on 1 moments are not intentional,
and just stuff that happens while a new airtight position is being setup.

But these "valleys" are great and I think should be incorporated intentionally.

ALSO, during DP/DAP airtight positions

Instead of arbitrarily asking the guys to SWITCH,
I think Luis should let the guys pace themselves.
And I think this will naturally lead to better and more organic action.

I made this gif to illustrate that guys should pay attention
on how the woman reacts to the action, looking for approval or disapproval

But also made a closeup of a clear moment when Mike is just enjoying what he is doing.



this is what made Gonzo special for me,
that most of it's actors had freedom to act as they saw fit.

But nowadays Gonzo male actors appear to
be bored and waiting for Luis to tell them what to do.
as many studios in porn suffer from IMO.

Movies are better when the action jus naturally develops according to circumstances.

Don't for a recipe into every movie, sure have things that
lead to an arching vision, but let the male actors do their job.

This is why some actors have a fandom.

Great post.

According to me, the answer to that is very simple : Luis is a VERY VERY bad producer.
A few months ago, he still had some good male actors to shoot with, hiding his lack of skills in terms of production.
Nowadays, he doesn't have anymore...And his weakness appears in every single scene he makes...

Feedback from me would be:

Gaping - More focus on some big gapes - proper power gapes. I don't need lots of gapes but when the gapes do happen I want to see big (camera straight on, not from the side) power gapes.

Fashion - Gonza has the worst fashion. They dress the models in Shorts! half the time. They dress the models like pseudo teen girls from a max hardcore nightmare. IV & GIO have much better understading of how to dress a model.

Otherwise I think Gonzo do a pretty decent job!

bob94600 wrote:Great post.

According to me, the answer to that is very simple : Luis is a VERY VERY bad producer.
A few months ago, he still had some good male actors to shoot with, hiding his lack of skills in terms of production.
Nowadays, he doesn't have anymore...And his weakness appears in every single scene he makes...

+ 1

Great post, indeed!
Would be very good to have you back here with your video analysis and explaining 'gifs, magizi!

Now, I dont think Luis is a very bad director, but he's lately just bored and seems more and more absent minded, maybe planning already his next SAM holidays or family stay instead of focusing on the porn scene he's shooting. Having no strong competition on gonzo anymore sure adds to a certain laziness. Add the fact that its doubtful how many of these bookings he does himself. Looks a bit like he is only the tech and camera guy, and probably a fairly cheap one, apart from his expensive flight tickets.
So why fly in a cameraman every second month from the other side of the World? - Because he has the best studs crew maybe. But now as that crew is obviously gone and Luis shoots halfway with usual local studs, his star might be sinking rapidly.

This said I have doubts about gonzo studio as such. No updates, obviously bad planning, OTS scenes instead, looks a bit like dying.

Now while I am a clear GIO fan because there I usually get the daily minimum dose porn fix I need, LP without gonzo would be definitely not LP anymore for me. LP for me was always GIO and gonzo, formerly also with SOS and IV.

magizi87 wrote:Hello.

I been wanting to come back recently,
since the LP new filter system makes it doable for me.
(Before I just thought LP became disgusting, sorry!)

But,

Gonzo movies seem to lack in the fun factor area.
Which for me, it used to be it's main appeal.

It's the apparent lack of "manhandle".

To me, manhandle encompases all the things the man can do
to get his woman's heart racing, to excite her, to make her feel good and beautiful.

And IMO, Gonzo movies are very lacking in that area.

I think this happens because of a combination of several things.
But mainly, because movies seem to be to focused on the aesthetic part.

It seems like male actors are afraid to get in the way of the camera.
So, during airtight parts, be it DP or DAP, in cowgirl, doggy or whatever,
all manhandle elements come to a complete halt.

As a man, if you don't want to constantly be touching, kissing, fucking,
and otherwise manipulating the woman in question,
and instead it seems like guys are trying to minimize all contact,
which means to me that they are not really all that attracted to her,
and in a way, it makes me think that the woman in the scene is LESS hot.

A big praise also from me, magizi!
Very good post and sharp, deep  analysis. Also nice gifs.
I agree about all, but the fact it's a GONZO's issue: in my opinion GIORGIO's and IV's productions suffer the same problem. It's all about to build up a scene according to some schemes, where fantasy plays no or a minimal role, where is no place for feeling, passion and spontaneity, where thus intensity and authenticity go inevitably lost.
I also share your concept of "manhandle", it's not about some slaps, but mood and involvement.
It's so nice when the actors are passionately into it: I like so much when a man slaps hard a woman and this smiles to him and shows that she likes it or even begs for it. I also love when a guy spits a girl in the mouth and then kisses her, and she spits him back and/or slaps him. I really have nothing against reverse and mutual manhandle, it's also exciting and part of the game.
As a good example of manhandle I always take that scene with Misha Cross, HARDCORE CLIMAX SZ317, where she, having been slapped hard by the guys (Mike Angelo, Yanick Shaft and Tony Brooklyn), at one point reacts and slaps Tony back and he enjoys it too.
Of course not every actor, male and female, is into it, therefore it's important to choose the right ones. Rocco Siffredi, Mike Angelo, Mike Chapman are maybe the best rough performers, because so passionate and involved, but Mr Anderson, Robin Reid, Yanick Shaft, Chis Diamond, Potro and the "Russian" boys are also good, although with a  different, colder style.

bob94600 wrote:Great post.

According to me, the answer to that is very simple : Luis is a VERY VERY bad producer.
A few months ago, he still had some good male actors to shoot with, hiding his lack of skills in terms of production.
Nowadays, he doesn't have anymore...And his weakness appears in every single scene he makes...

I hope XXX or Luis don't think that I'm calling them "VERY BAD" producers.

grey00owl wrote:A big praise also from me, magizi!
Very good post and sharp, deep analysis. Also nice gifs.
I agree about all, but the fact it's a GONZO's issue: in my opinion GIORGIO's and IV's productions suffer the same problem. It's all about to build up a scene according to some schemes, where fantasy plays no or a minimal role, where is no place for feeling, passion and spontaneity, where thus intensity and authenticity go inevitably lost.
I also share your concept of "manhandle", it's not about some slaps, but mood and involvement.
It's so nice when the actors are passionately into it: I like so much when a man slaps hard a woman and this smiles to him and shows that she likes it or even begs for it. I also love when a guy spits a girl in the mouth and then kisses her, and she spits him back and/or slaps him. I really have nothing against reverse and mutual manhandle, it's also exciting and part of the game.
As a good example of manhandle I always take that scene with Misha Cross, HARDCORE CLIMAX SZ317, where she, having been slapped hard by the guys (Mike Angelo, Yanick Shaft and Tony Brooklyn), at one point reacts and slaps Tony back and he enjoys it too.
Of course not every actor, male and female, is into it, therefore it's important to choose the right ones. Rocco Siffredi, Mike Angelo, Mike Chapman are maybe the best rough performers, because so passionate and involved, but Mr Anderson, Robin Reid, Yanick Shaft, Chis Diamond, Potro and the "Russian" boys are also good, although with a different, colder style.

For me Gonzo are the ones who produce gangbangs closer to how I wish they were.
And therefore I think they just need tweaks here and there to make that happen.

Whereas IV or Giorgio, they need complete overhauls for me to like them at this point.
Which is why I don't post any feedback over there anymore.

Over many years Giorgio politely said to me, privately and publicly, something along this tune:
basically "he build a fanbase for his porn, that is very much incompatible with what I like in porn".

I think DAP, makes movies worse, for example.
His movies are basically all about DAP, with a few other niches sprinkled on top.

I remember at some point realizing that I was paying 5 or 6 tkt for a 45 minute movie,
that basically only had 2 to 6 mins of content that I actually enjoyed.

IV is kind of the same story, were Joachim-Kessef
has explicitly comment that he prefers tip-fucking content for aesthetic reasons.
And on top of that I think their director hold the camera at angles
that don't make the girls pop. Simply I think they subtract attractiveness
from the ladies by the method the hold the camera, lol.

greenfunk727 wrote:Feedback from me would be:

Gaping - More focus on some big gapes - proper power gapes. I don't need lots of gapes but when the gapes do happen I want to see big (camera straight on, not from the side) power gapes.

Fashion - Gonza has the worst fashion. They dress the models in Shorts! half the time. They dress the models like pseudo teen girls from a max hardcore nightmare. IV & GIO have much better understading of how to dress a model.

Otherwise I think Gonzo do a pretty decent job!

I agree with this, in particular with the fashion part.
I think most Gonzo outfits are either forgetable or downright awful. lol

This is actually so important for me that I'll cover it in my next post.

dap-addict wrote:Great post, indeed!
Would be very good to have you back here with your video analysis and explaining 'gifs, magizi!

Now, I dont think Luis is a very bad director, but he's lately just bored and seems more and more absent minded, maybe planning already his next SAM holidays or family stay instead of focusing on the porn scene he's shooting. Having no strong competition on gonzo anymore sure adds to a certain laziness. Add the fact that its doubtful how many of these bookings he does himself. Looks a bit like he is only the tech and camera guy, and probably a fairly cheap one, apart from his expensive flight tickets.
So why fly in a cameraman every second month from the other side of the World? - Because he has the best studs crew maybe. But now as that crew is obviously gone and Luis shoots halfway with usual local studs, his star might be sinking rapidly.

This said I have doubts about gonzo studio as such. No updates, obviously bad planning, OTS scenes instead, looks a bit like dying.

Now while I am a clear GIO fan because there I usually get the daily minimum dose porn fix I need, LP without gonzo would be definitely not LP anymore for me. LP for me was always GIO and gonzo, formerly also with SOS and IV.

I do want to make gifs, but I need content that motivates me to do them, lol.

I hope Luis can ensamble most of his old crew back.
But if that's somehow not an option,
He need sot do what Giorgio did,
which was to build a reliable team,
and stick to it. The models come and go,
but the essence of the studio is really him, the behind the scenes ppl like Petra, and the guys.

If you change all the guys, the whole thing feel like a different brand,
and at this time I just don't like it

I totally disagree about fashion: GONZO is by far the best studio as far as for style. First, to reply directly to the accusation of dressing the models like pseudo teens from a Max Hardcore movie: quite the opposite I find nice to see a very young model in a schoolgirl outfit instead of a whore's one. More in general I really like how carefully at that studio they choose the outfits, according to the model's age, physical type and personality. Here you see shorts but also skirts and dresses, frilly lingerie but also sportswear, and mostly classy footwear. It comes to my mind those lovely sporty outfits on the stunning Susana Melo: of course they suit so well, because she has the proper figure, whereas a buxom girl would appear inappropriate. I prefer by far Gonzo's style to Giorgio's for example, where the models are (almost) always dressed like street whores mostly with ugly shoes and improbable leg straps: how much nicier, for example, plain, classic sandals with thin sole instead of those stripper high wedge ones, seen so often at that studio. Not to mention those studs high pumps: unwatchable. Not so Giorgio's Lab, where the girls are attractively dressed with "normal" chothes and sneakers: attractive and refreshing. Moreover I find so nice to see at Gonzo's more colour, also in the furniture: this makes it quite more attractive to me.

You might be right.

But in my opinion, slutty outfits sell better.

I love seeing women all naked, but I prefer scenes
were the woman is still wearing something while she is getting fucked
and slutty outfits are better than classy ones for this purpose.

Also, slutty outfits are designed to
make girly parts stand out, claiming all of your attention.

For example, the vertical lines coming down from her waist,
the narrowest part of her torso, to her legs, is a visual aid to
make her hip appear wider.



From this angle, it makes her glutes pop out. It has that enhancing effect.



Plus slutty outfits announce the clear sexual intent and are clickbaity.
You open the pornbox to see what's new and slutty outfits draw your attention
more so than classy outfits do, it's just how it is.

I think slutty outfits are a safer bet for producers when introducing girls without a fandom.
But that might just be me wanting to see super sexy outfits more often.

I think something they could try adding would be "special effects"

For example, with a fan, adding a wind current under a skirt.



For sporty outfits, add sporty things for the girl to do:



Like they did in this scene:



I do like "classy" outfits.



I'm getting into random thoughts territory by now,
while I was watching this scene:



It seems really hot if she uses the dildoes while
the guys are caressing her body at the same time.

ALSO, it evolved into this, which is awesome IMO.



That needs to be the new norm IMO, lol. (I'm serious tho)

Sex toys could be part of the fashion IMO and enhance the vibe and mood of scenes.

A belt holding down multiple dildoes for later use.


Spreader bar, leather wrist wraps, Blindfold and mouth ring gag.




Something kinkier.
Blindfold, Mouth ball gag, collar leash, body harness, hands tied, ballet leather boots.

Again amazing gifs. I appreciate in particular the wind raising the skirt and the pedaling girl: who are those beauties?

The rising skirt girl could be Katrin Tequila maybe?

YumYum74 wrote:The rising skirt girl could be Katrin Tequila maybe?

The tattoo looks different.

The babe getting spanked and the one exercising are both Instagram models.

Natasha Lee as NataLee007 (but there are several accounts so I dunno which one is the real one),
the brunette I don't remember her name. I'm so sorry. But if you find one you'll find the other one.

Honestly I realized that Instagram doesn't allow pics greater than 1 megapixel and I was "WTF is the point?!", lol.

And deleted my account.

I want to praise GONZO's new productions: I find the latest scenes of very good quality. Moreover a big praise for having brought back Bille Star, Rebecca Volpetti and now Susan Ayn, all stunning model, who should have many more scenes. Also the male team does a good ob in my opinion. Of course we all miss great performers like Chris Diamond and Charlie Mac, but they have moved and we have to accept it. The new (some are veterans) guys are really not bad. Keep on with the good work!

Please return back Mea Melone , Ria Sunn , Anna De Ville , and Daniela Dadivoso !

grey00owl wrote:I want to praise GONZO's new productions: I find the latest scenes of very good quality. Moreover a big praise for having brought back Bille Star, Rebecca Volpetti and now Susan Ayn, all stunning model, who should have many more scenes. Also the male team does a good ob in my opinion.

+ 1

Anybody knows who was directing these scenes?
Doenst look like Luis.
That new 'Omar' support dir maybe, but also not sure.

dap-addict wrote:

grey00owl wrote:I want to praise GONZO's new productions: I find the latest scenes of very good quality. Moreover a big praise for having brought back Bille Star, Rebecca Volpetti and now Susan Ayn, all stunning model, who should have many more scenes. Also the male team does a good ob in my opinion.

+ 1

Anybody knows who was directing these scenes?
Doenst look like Luis.
That new 'Omar' support dir maybe, but also not sure.

Also curious to know. Ideally I would employ two directors as once Luis and Stefano: it would be advantageous to have some competition, resulting in better quality.

grey00owl wrote:Also curious to know. Ideally I would employ two directors as once Luis and Stefano: it would be advantageous to have some competition, resulting in better quality.

So true!

Actually I feel a bit time of Luis could be over. Not that he was bad at all, but lately no emotions anymore and always same formula. In BTS he seems really totally detached. I'd have to search again hard, but didnt xxx recently write gonzo hadnt created profits anymore last few months or at least was selling badly or less that he wants.

loving the curvy women, pure overdose, sofia lee and angel wicky pushed me over the edge...good work guys!!

dap-addict wrote:

grey00owl wrote:Also curious to know. Ideally I would employ two directors as once Luis and Stefano: it would be advantageous to have some competition, resulting in better quality.

So true!

Actually I feel a bit time of Luis could be over. Not that he was bad at all, but lately no emotions anymore and always same formula. In BTS he seems really totally detached. I'd have to search again hard, but didnt xxx recently write gonzo hadnt created profits anymore last few months or at least was selling badly or less that he wants.

Gio is no different. There are very rare exceptions, but the formula is the same. All smoke and no fire.

Apart from Taylee Wood (on occasion), the curvy girls don’t do it for me at all unfortunately.

is it possible to have behind the scenes footage from Taylee Wood's scenes ?

Brilliant ^. GIVE ME LOTS OF BIG BUTTS !!

It will be Good if we get back some new gape- and kremefart scenes!

Bring back Vinny and Mike Angelo for Gonzo

Introduce Angel Princess to BBC monster cock team asap.

More...
Lou Lou Bonnet
Adara Love
Melina May
Kizzy Sixx
Sofia Lee
Jennifer Mendez
Angel Wicky

Another thread discussing deeper filming issues turned into just name dropping!
Best ingredients in bad product dont make the product good, see Nataly Teen productions for instance.
Lets try come back and discuss what OP started!

Btw, any changes you notice after switch from Luis to Omar?

dap-addict wrote:Btw, any changes you notice after switch from Luis to Omar?

I get the sense there is more fun on set, more laughing. Also the robotic quality which crept into Gonzo releases before the pandemic hit, seems to be much less. It feels more natural. Curious if that also means performers have more input in the goings on of the scene.

YumYum74 wrote:

dap-addict wrote:Btw, any changes you notice after switch from Luis to Omar?

I get the sense there is more fun on set, more laughing. Also the robotic quality which crept into Gonzo releases before the pandemic hit, seems to be much less. It feels more natural. Curious if that also means performers have more input in the goings on of the scene.

I agree. Less going through the motions. More improvisation. More fun. I like that.

avanfurwet wrote:

YumYum74 wrote:

dap-addict wrote:Btw, any changes you notice after switch from Luis to Omar?

I get the sense there is more fun on set, more laughing. Also the robotic quality which crept into Gonzo releases before the pandemic hit, seems to be much less. It feels more natural. Curious if that also means performers have more input in the goings on of the scene.

I agree. Less going through the motions. More improvisation. More fun. I like that.

Don't know, actually I always appreciated Luis's work: he gave us some great, unforgettable scenes, especially with the Monster Cock Team. The new GONZO footages are very good as well, with some outstanding scenes like Rebecca Volpetti's, Mina's and Kristy Black's ones.
Frankly I see a GONZO peculiar style in the old as well as in the new productions.

Unfortunately not a fan of Lady Gang (not my kind of girl), but GONZO's SZ2470 looks to be a terrific scene, very hard and rough. The three guys are very engaged and inspired fucking her hard and manhandilg her. Glad to see Tomas and his thick cock again. Nice cumshots. This is the way.

magizi877 wrote:You might be right.

But in my opinion, slutty outfits sell better.

I love seeing women all naked, but I prefer scenes
were the woman is still wearing something while she is getting fucked
and slutty outfits are better than classy ones for this purpose.

Also, slutty outfits are designed to
make girly parts stand out, claiming all of your attention.

For example, the vertical lines coming down from her waist,
the narrowest part of her torso, to her legs, is a visual aid to
make her hip appear wider.

wallhaven-d5999m.jpg

From this angle, it makes her glutes pop out. It has that enhancing effect.

wallhaven-83w62k.jpg

Plus slutty outfits announce the clear sexual intent and are clickbaity.
You open the pornbox to see what's new and slutty outfits draw your attention
more so than classy outfits do, it's just how it is.

I think slutty outfits are a safer bet for producers when introducing girls without a fandom.
But that might just be me wanting to see super sexy outfits more often.

I think something they could try adding would be "special effects"

For example, with a fan, adding a wind current under a skirt.

5210.gif

For sporty outfits, add sporty things for the girl to do:

5211.gif

Like they did in this scene:

5080.gif

I do like "classy" outfits.

4332T_SZ2002.gif

I'm getting into random thoughts territory by now,
while I was watching this scene:

5228.gif

It seems really hot if she uses the dildoes while
the guys are caressing her body at the same time.

ALSO, it evolved into this, which is awesome IMO.

5230.gif

That needs to be the new norm IMO, lol. (I'm serious tho)

Sex toys could be part of the fashion IMO and enhance the vibe and mood of scenes.

A belt holding down multiple dildoes for later use.

268.jpg

Spreader bar, leather wrist wraps, Blindfold and mouth ring gag.

082.jpg

Open.jpg

Something kinkier.
Blindfold, Mouth ball gag, collar leash, body harness, hands tied, ballet leather boots.

000.jpg

Same, you speak from my heart.

Magizi can you add some MagiziStyle Lingerie here
https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=21299

grey00owl wrote:Unfortunately not a fan of Lady Gang (not my kind of girl), but GONZO's SZ2470 looks to be a terrific scene, very hard and rough. The three guys are very engaged and inspired fucking her hard and manhandilg her. Glad to see Tomas and his thick cock again. Nice cumshots. This is the way.

Agree with that statement. Even if Lady Gang is also not exactly my type but her attitude is what makes the scene very good

error01x wrote:

magizi877 wrote:You might be right.

But in my opinion, slutty outfits sell better.

Same, you speak from my heart.

Magizi can you add some MagiziStyle Lingerie here
https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=21299

Don't get me wrong, I like slutty outfits as well, but they have to look classy, not cheap. For example I hate those studs high heels, so often seen in Giorgio's scenes, or those leg or whole body straps: so cheap and improbable. Love instead pantyhoses and bodysuits with strategic opening, as well as sexy lingerie.

I'm still not convinced by Gonzo new movies to discuss the outfits, or to support them.

I'm very impressed with Mina. VERY impressed.
Like, I see what she can do and I have a hard time believing it's for real, lol.

But

"0% pussy" type scenes have become too "acrobatic" for my taste.
DAP is really a circus act, and I don't mean to offend the people who work at a circus.

I simply do not fantasize about the stuff depicted in a 0% pussy scene.
DAP in my brain is NOT sex.I don't see the pleasure.
and therefore it is uninteresting for me. AKA boring.

Gonzo seems to discard newbies instantly, unless they become a colossal financial success overnite.
and newbies are the only models who seem to be doing the stuff that I would want.

Unfortunately, Gonzo has a way of slowing the action so much with newbies,
that somehow DP, oral, vaginal and anal sex looks boring.

So I am almost 100% certain we won't see the new models ever again, lol.
Because those scenes don't scream "colossal success" IMO.

I have over 2000 Legalporno scenes, and I do have a top 3 favorite scenes,
and to be honest, I would have never seen those scenes that I consider to be the best,
if they were released at price point of 10 tkt or similar.

Best thing about Gonzo is that theirs more variety in body types and not the same looking women

magizi87 wrote:I'm still not convinced by Gonzo new movies to discuss the outfits, or to support them.

I'm very impressed with Mina. VERY impressed.
Like, I see what she can do and I have a hard time believing it's for real, lol.

Mina is of course an exceptional talent, but some recent scenes with other models are excellent as well in my opinion: Rebecca Volpetti, Kristy Black, Susan Ayn, Sara Bell, Isabella de Laa, Lady Gang all have outstanding footages.
I also find that GONZO has managed to build a new excellent male team after the obvious disorientation caused by the departure of Chris Diamond and Charlie Mac.
All in all I'm quite happy with their work.
I don't support this sudden, steep price increase either, but I'm here to watch porn and, even though I would more happily pay 5 or 6 TKT for a scene, I still will buy a good one at 10. The consequence is of course that I'm quite more selective.

By the way the scenes with Venom Evil are terrific.