Glamporn slowing taking over Gonzo updates

[drinside]

Anyone noticed that today was the third or second day that Gonzo did not update their content instead they give us vanilla bullshit Glam Porn?

Whats suppose to mean? Luis and the Gonzo guys are running out scenes to update the content and instead are buying bullshit scenes like Sienna Day that was up?

Nobody gives a fuck about this Glam Porn studio, you should know by now.

[xxx]

You are really confused.

[xxx]

You have been here long enough to know that we are only doing 2 updates a day.

[drinside]

You have been here long enough to know that we are only doing 2 updates a day.

You guys used to update a Gio scene and a Gonzo scene everyday. It was great! There're times that you even was updating with 2+ scenes.

Right now we're getting only Glam Porn. In fact it's a Glam Porn overload.

LP in his core is hardcore, not that Vanilla bullshit.

[magizi877]

I don't mind the Glam porn updates, but could we please go back to Gonzo daily updates?

[xxx]

This topic has been discussed before and I have said several times that we would release more if sales would follow. We can't just release one more scene a day and expect that sales will increase by 50%.

That being said we are already releasing 3 scenes occasionally. And sales have been picking up nicely over the last years. There is still a long way to go though.

[tekaneo]

This topic has been discussed before and I have said several times that we would release more if sales would follow. We can't just release one more scene a day and expect that sales will increase by 50%.

That being said we are already releasing 3 scenes occasionally. And sales have been picking up nicely over the last years. There is still a long way to go though.

Can you please explain whats exactly the problem to release 3 scenes everyday (when i say 3 scenes i mean 3 scenes from main studios for example IV/GONZO/GIO or GIO/GONZO/AA... not including GP). I dont know if its a technical problem or simply money problem. Whats the problem for example to release a 3rd scene today instad of tomorrow? Ppl will buy anyways if they like it, right?

[drinside]

This topic has been discussed before and I have said several times that we would release more if sales would follow. We can't just release one more scene a day and expect that sales will increase by 50%.

That being said we are already releasing 3 scenes occasionally. And sales have been picking up nicely over the last years. There is still a long way to go though.

XXX the meaning of this topic is: we want the updates of Gonzo and Gio everyday. The other studios should be just a bonus.

American Anal and Asablanca theres no continuity. Interracial Visions is boring as hell, nobody cares. Glam Porn is just Vanilla porn.

What we need: GIO and Luis updates regularly. That's it. You could even exclude the other studios, it won't be a big problem.

[TheVulture]

I don't mind the concept of the shorter, softer Glamporn type scenes for fewer tickets but I haven't bought any mainly because they use the clapped out old studs, which was my previous problem with LP (and much porn in general).

I think some of you are being a bit overly demanding in demanding the Gonzo/Giorgio scenes to drop in daily. These are really hard scenes and I do suspect that some of the weak cumshots might be products of overwork of the male performers resulting from a race to meet these targets. I'm good with 3 or 4 updates a week and if that improved the quality (admittedly that would be tough right now - retained the quality then perhaps) then I would be all for it.

I do think it's weird that when you buy new tickets the site is trying to push subscription to Glamporn. I'd be surprised if many people are taking that up but that's just my take on it.

[miamiguy926]

I agree with OP. Having the three main sites bring more updates (with variety of girls) would quickly rejuvenate my enthusiasm to spend tokens and perhaps rejoin for monthly subscription. However the turn to Glam porn has quickly left me looking for other sites in which I can hopefully find the content that first brung me to join and love LP.

[kidloco2]

Well, three main studios updates a day would be awesome, I mean more to choose from, although what xxx says about sales makes sense to me.

I don't give a shit about GP studio updates, too soft for me (even no anal sometimes which is alarming to me).

But what actually would be rewarding the most if FOCUS studio could be releasing more frequently, that will solve the problem with 2 updates a day. They make good anal scenes as well. Like one scene a week seems fine to me. 2 DP and 2 DAP scenes / month.

[magizi877]

I don't mind the concept of the shorter, softer Glamporn type scenes for fewer tickets but I haven't bought any mainly because they use the clapped out old studs, which was my previous problem with LP (and much porn in general).

I think some of you are being a bit overly demanding in demanding the Gonzo/Giorgio scenes to drop in daily. These are really hard scenes and I do suspect that some of the weak cumshots might be products of overwork of the male performers resulting from a race to meet these targets. I'm good with 3 or 4 updates a week and if that improved the quality (admittedly that would be tough right now - retained the quality then perhaps) then I would be all for it.

I do think it's weird that when you buy new tickets the site is trying to push subscription to Glamporn. I'd be surprised if many people are taking that up but that's just my take on it.

Well the thing is that if the boys are not working for LP, they are working for someone else.
You know, this is their job, it's how they make money. They can really sit it out to wait for their balls to fill.

[dap-addict]

You guys used to update a Gio scene and a Gonzo scene everyday. It was great!

This was never the case if I remember right.
Gonzo used to be daily and I want this back dearly.
GIO used to be 5 times per week, only lately they speed up to daily.
Probably there was never a week when gonzo and GIO released daily, but I might be mistaken.

Generally I'd love to get 3 scenes (GP not included of course!) per day, but like kidloco said, xxx statement about sales makes sense to me, too. Nice to hear sales pick up after the Friday 3 scene release decision. Hope they can do it also Saturdays and Sundays soon.

[TrustMeImADoctor]

Its terrible. I thought they were using glam to get talent in the building then convert to gio scenes but nope. It's just vanilla crap and its becoming their m.o. It's awful branding and I can't imagine how it's profitable

[xxx]

About half of the gonzo scenes from the last 2 months had low sales and we took a (sometimes big) loss on all of them :

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33713/ ... uys_sz1984
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32659/ ... ssy_sz1758
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34093/ ... ion_sz2045
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34088/ ... ime_sz2040
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34006/ ... _dp_sz2030
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34041/ ... cks_sz2032
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33962/ ... pie_sz2009
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33963/ ... _dp_sz2010
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31747/ ... _dp_sz1524
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33983/ ... cks_sz2018
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33956/ ... cks_sz2017
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31799/ ... ang_sz1537
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33268/ ... ion_sz1887
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33711/ ... _dp_sz1982
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33684/ ... ing_sz1973
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33658/ ... nal_sz1964
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31526/ ... lub_sz1460
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32892/ ... ion_sz1824
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31481/ ... ish_sz1448
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31794/ ... ion_sz1535
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31903/ ... ope_sz1571
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31676/ ... ing_sz1504

Do you really think that makes us want to release even more? No clearly that makes us want to release less and select more carefully what we do. All the scenes above should have never existed.

[pastaga]

I think Gonzo scenes work less lately because :
- Giorgio releasing stuff daily.
- lots of Glamporn updates
So people have less tickets to spend on regular Gonzo scenes, who are all very similar (especially old scenes with "overused" models, why buy this when similar scenes are available for free tickets, or already in our porn boxes for a while ?)

New models have potential anyways, don't give up with Sasha Sparrow or Shelley Bliss just because their first scenes weren't selling good...
Or increase the price of membership and the number of monthly tickets.

[tekaneo]

You Gonzo LOST 90% TOP MODELS (but have scenes and you dont want to release them) that have HIGH SALES and you are only releasing 1 TOP MODEL every full moon right now. Do you think i'm going to buy a scene just because a trailer to see if for some strange reason shes good or not knowing you have top girls unreleased and i know i like? I'm NOT going to spend tks on experiments, i want your 1 year or 2 year ago models and i know you have saved unreleased for dont know why. Just an example: you have 1 or 2 or 3 dont know how many AMIRAH ADARA scenes shot recently and you dont want to release it because I DONT KNOW WHY but instead of it you keep releasing girls that maybe they will sell or not and if they dont sell you prefer to keep saying that "its because members dont buy them". You have TOP MODELS scenes unreleased, release them and you will see that they will sell FOR SURE and keep shoting them and stop releasing experiments to see if they sell or not.

I dont know how to explain it better: i dont spend my money on models i dont know, i spend money on TOP SCENES/TOP MODELS and you know what scenes they are just checking TOP MONTH sellers. You want a list of my preferences and im sure 90% members here will be ok with my list and want their scenes being released? Send me a PM and i will be pleased on send you a list back.

[dap-addict]

About half of the gonzo scenes from the last 2 months had low sales and we took a (sometimes big) loss on all of them :
(...)
Do you really think that makes us want to release even more? No clearly that makes us want to release less and select more carefully what we do. All the scenes above should have never existed.

Easy explanation: No DAP.
Or if it was DAP than established models shot quite badly by Proxy.

gonzo needs to upgrade offerings, DAPbreakin' girls earlier in their gonzo career again and all should be fine and back to norm.
Its really sad gonzo isn't releasing a scene per day anymore due to vanilla productions not selling.

[2017sucks]

About half of the gonzo scenes from the last 2 months had low sales and we took a (sometimes big) loss on all of them :

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33713/ ... uys_sz1984
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32659/ ... ssy_sz1758
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34093/ ... ion_sz2045
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34088/ ... ime_sz2040
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34006/ ... _dp_sz2030
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34041/ ... cks_sz2032
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33962/ ... pie_sz2009
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33963/ ... _dp_sz2010
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31747/ ... _dp_sz1524
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33983/ ... cks_sz2018
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33956/ ... cks_sz2017
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31799/ ... ang_sz1537
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33268/ ... ion_sz1887
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33711/ ... _dp_sz1982
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33684/ ... ing_sz1973
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33658/ ... nal_sz1964
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31526/ ... lub_sz1460
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32892/ ... ion_sz1824
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31481/ ... ish_sz1448
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31794/ ... ion_sz1535
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31903/ ... ope_sz1571
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31676/ ... ing_sz1504

Do you really think that makes us want to release even more? No clearly that makes us want to release less and select more carefully what we do. All the scenes above should have never existed.

https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=197533#p197533 Same message to you xxx, just like to Giorgio. But go ahead, continue with Amarantas and Linzs and then be surprised with low sales.

[Jon_Jonz]

Sales will get better if you start bringing back Isabella Clark,Jessi Empera,Jasmine Jae and you can have a try at Sandra Romain(she was good for business and she is well known superstar).
Maybe try to bring Stefano back---i know this might be impossible,but his scenes delivered.

[ayrtight]

Amaranta and Linz are nice .

I´m just waiting for :

Amaranta to take more than 2 guys .
Linz to take 3 or more guys without piss .

[dap-addict]

Maybe try to bring Stefano back---i know this might be impossible,but his scenes delivered.

Stefano broke LP biz code, there is no way back.
He was talented, but others are talented, too.
They just need a chance.

[2017sucks]

viewtopic.php?f=121&t=18445&p=186344#p186344

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=17650&p=182003#p182001

And you deleted your all time best post? You know "no more big gangbangs, pissing"...

Well, just make sure to let us know on time about live streaming of official SZ funeral. Don't know why people always have desire to ruin perfect things, their own perfect things! Lol, world and porn can survive with thousand Brazzers type sites. Don't need the only real hardcore site on world as 1001.

[ayrtight]

Ok , so more details :

I bought the Adel Asanty scene . She looks good and is MEATY , which is something I like very much . Don´t like her fake lips though . It´s one of those rare cases when I buy a scene where the trailer doesn´t show any of my fav acts ( of course hoping they are in the scene ) :
Dbj + dp , full feet vision , multi facial .
Unfortunately it didn´t happen in the scene , but anyway she is horny and I don´t regret it . Hope my tickets will convince Gonzo to shoot more curvy and bubbly girls like her .

I also bought Sofia Curly´s scene which is one of my fav models . The scene had her first and only DBJ + Dp , even though it came through a nasty unerotic cut and was much too short , but I´m happy to have it in my box nevertheless .

Bought the Paulina Soul scene , because the trailer showed partially the feet . Don´t remember now if the scene shows the full feet , but sometimes I take the risk , Don´t like her fake boobs at all , but that´s the power of foot fanship .

5on1 by Emily Thorne and Maria Devine : The trailers only show 3on1 and 2on1 action .... ( Emily was one of my fav girls )

Waiting for Swabery´s 3on1 ( hopefully there will also be some barefoot action , cuz you showed previews with closed heels ...)

I generally don´t buy scenes with more than 1 girl .

[pastaga]

You know what ? I don't think that models are responsible of bad sales. At least not the models from the list posted above.
OK, famous girls like Alexis, Anna or Arwen will always sell good. But newbies and lesser known girls can sell good too. Giorgio managed to make some unknown girls famous, so why not Gonzo ?

For now what I see is that Giorgio scenes have better makeup, better lighting and overall better image quality. And the intensity also looks better.
What I would love is more Gonzo-DDF hybrid scenes : DDF for the costumes and settings (not everything will fit, of course), but actors from Gonzo for big dicks and rough action. Could be interesting IMO...

[ayrtight]

DDF has indeed nice costumes , settings and sometimes also make-up .

[magizi877]

I'm sorry to hear you are losing money.

You know, assuming people buy their scenes with the 3-month recurring plan,
at 40 tkt a month, that's only good enough for about 8 scenes a month,
of the 90 plus scenes that are being offered at LP during the same period of time.

That means that for roughly $27'ish dollars a month, we can actually see 8 scenes give or take for that amount of money.
And this is the cheapest option, the other options you offer are more expensive, long-term.

Relative to other porn websites, $27 for 8 scenes is pretty uncompetitive.

For instance, Brazzers offers 60 scenes for $8.33 a month, to their loyal fans ($99 dollars a year).
JulesJordan 3 month plan, offers 10 scenes per $20 each month. And he is one of the most expensive American websites IMO. Still cheaper than LP.
RealityKings has always been super cheap. And you can get their scenes with a $60 one time payment as long as you keep your Brazzers account active.

Americans are capitalist and the best way to get rich is to offer whatever you do, for cheap.
That way you attract the masses.

By being LP and offer everything at a premium, you attract people who, pirate everything,
and people who don't mind spending more than others for the same thing, lol.

I'm gonna join with the others who say that the models we get now,
are just not as compelling as the ones we had before, I really don't want to say this,
but a bunch of the women in the scenes you linked, look overweight.
For porn that matters. IT MATTERS especially on a website that charges you a la carte.
(we basically don't like what's on the menu).

And yes there are people who like girls who are heavier, but how many of those people
like or are OK with, paying premium prices for it? Whereas in Brazzers, everyone pays the same,
so if you like tattoos, fake tits, curvy women, whatever, you pay the same amount of money,
as the vast majority of people who prefer slim ladies, and still, you can watch everything, if you want, not just your niche.

Here is an analysis of my own purchases from this year:

In 2018 (so far) I have purchased 90 scenes. 54 from Gonzo and 36 from Giorgio.
That means that on average, I get to purchase a movie, once every 2 or 3 days.

Here is my take, I still like vaginal porn, 1 on 1, casual, soft, whatever u want to call it.
But when I'm here at LP, I crave a gangbang, airtight is my favorite and thinking she could get fuck all night is what I imagine.

Of the 36 scenes that I have purchased from Giorgio, 58% were gangbangs,
Hot girl, + 5 or more males, equals a scene I want to watch, heh.
Otherwise, it would have been 21 fewer scenes I had to spend money on, that I could have purchased on another studio. Like Gonzo.
The thing about his scenes tho, they are rarely offered for less than 5 tkt.

This doesn't leave much room to maneuver for me to get other scenes that are not gangbangs.

You keep producing scenes that are not gangbangs,
2 on 1, not a gangbang
3 on 1, not a gangbang
4 on 1, not a gangbang

5 on 1, ok a gangbang, a cheap one at that

You know you probably lost faith in the gangbangs that you produced,
probably because of the whole sales and cost production dilemma.
but IMO, the gangbangs were all filmed the same way a 3 on 1 scene is filmed.
I have always thought you had the numbers but the execution was mediocre.
I was also thinking, "these guys don't understand what we want".

Gangbangs were created like this:
Same overall duration, the same amount of time per position, not longer, to accommodate more guys.
Same amount of interruptions to show gapes, more time switching the guys, but same duration per position equals less sex,

Girls look the same after finishing a 10 on 1 or a 3 on 1. Not any more tired or overwhelmed.
That's like an athlete looking the same after running a 5k race or a 40k marathon. LOL
5 race ends in about 20 mins, marathon after 2 hours, HOURS!! lol.

You know. the only reason I buy more from Gonzo, is because I identify myself better with their male actors. Also, Luis.

But I think the reason why Giorgio is taking over is simply because, he puts his money on what we ask for.
He produces his movies in a way that lets him hear the feedback and adapt so much faster than Gonzo.

Gonzo films 50 movies as quickly as possible, but then takes a year to release those, or longer,
and the feedback takes that much longer to reach Luis. Whereas with Giorgio the feedback loop seems to only be behind
weeks, maybe up to a month. I think this is it, the key to his success. And even though, he is constantly claiming that we
don't represent what the masses want, and we don't know what we are talking about here at the forum, you can always see our opinion inspire his new movies.

I mean, the first time I have noticed my feedback being taken into account by Luis, was when I talked about
the stripper club scene with Tyra Moon, SZ1450 that was released in 2016 and a whole year later after I commented on it,
Luis replied, with a "I think you are right" type comment. Where I talked about the camera, framing the model, etc,
and that feedback showed up in Luis movies until the SZ1900 range, 600 scenes later.

I remember thinking right then, "why do I even bother with these reviews". lol.
And you know what, I'm not the only one giving feedback.

But I actually enjoy making the gifs, so there is that.

Anyways, this thread is tittled "Glamporn slowing taking over Gonzo updates"
and with news like these:

About half of the gonzo scenes from the last 2 months had low sales and we took a (sometimes big) loss on all of them :

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33713/ ... uys_sz1984
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32659/ ... ssy_sz1758
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34093/ ... ion_sz2045
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34088/ ... ime_sz2040
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34006/ ... _dp_sz2030
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34041/ ... cks_sz2032
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33962/ ... pie_sz2009
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33963/ ... _dp_sz2010
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31747/ ... _dp_sz1524
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33983/ ... cks_sz2018
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33956/ ... cks_sz2017
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31799/ ... ang_sz1537
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33268/ ... ion_sz1887
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33711/ ... _dp_sz1982
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33684/ ... ing_sz1973
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33658/ ... nal_sz1964
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31526/ ... lub_sz1460
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32892/ ... ion_sz1824
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31481/ ... ish_sz1448
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31794/ ... ion_sz1535
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31903/ ... ope_sz1571
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31676/ ... ing_sz1504

Do you really think that makes us want to release even more? No, clearly that makes us want to release less and select more carefully what we do. All the scenes above should have never existed.

The future looks grimm.

[dap-addict]

Great post, magizi!
Two sadly very true highlight for me:

I really don't want to say this,
but a bunch of the women in the scenes you linked, look overweight.
For porn that matters. IT MATTERS especially on a website that charges you a la carte.

(...)

the reason why Giorgio is taking over is simply because, he puts his money on what we ask for.
He produces his movies in a way that lets him hear the feedback and adapt so much faster than Gonzo.

Gonzo films 50 movies as quickly as possible, but then takes a year to release those, or longer,
and the feedback takes that much longer to reach Luis. Whereas with Giorgio the feedback loop seems to only be behind
weeks, maybe up to a month. I think this is it, the key to his success. And even though, he is constantly claiming that we
don't represent what the masses want, and we don't know what we are talking about here at the forum, you can always see our opinion inspire his new movies.

[dap-addict]

About half of the gonzo scenes from the last 2 months had low sales and we took a (sometimes big) loss on all of them :

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33713/ ... uys_sz1984
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32659/ ... ssy_sz1758
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34093/ ... ion_sz2045
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34088/ ... ime_sz2040
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34006/ ... _dp_sz2030
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34041/ ... cks_sz2032
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33962/ ... pie_sz2009
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33963/ ... _dp_sz2010
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31747/ ... _dp_sz1524
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33983/ ... cks_sz2018
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33956/ ... cks_sz2017
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31799/ ... ang_sz1537
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33268/ ... ion_sz1887
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33711/ ... _dp_sz1982
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33684/ ... ing_sz1973
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33658/ ... nal_sz1964
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31526/ ... lub_sz1460
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32892/ ... ion_sz1824
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31481/ ... ish_sz1448
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31794/ ... ion_sz1535
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31903/ ... ope_sz1571
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31676/ ... ing_sz1504

Do you really think that makes us want to release even more? No clearly that makes us want to release less and select more carefully what we do. All the scenes above should have never existed.

I only bought 2 of these 24 scenes for the reasons mentioned already - no new DAPbreakin' and/or no girl I really want so much I buy her without DAP.
Got SZ1982 because I wanna support all 18yo rookies getting booked by gonzo, which has become a sadly really rare feature.
Got SZ1448 for the rare Laima DAP and because of Ria Sun, whom I dearly miss after her silent departure from porn in Nov 2017.

I have 4 scenes out of those 24 still on my shopping list. Might get them eventually, but with 40tkts allocated a month there is always more other stuff to buy. Might just wait till they get accessible for free tkts in 2010 if at that time LP still exists. Lately I have doubts even about that. Which is really sad.

[drevokocur66]

About half of the gonzo scenes from the last 2 months had low sales and we took a (sometimes big) loss on all of them :

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33713/ ... uys_sz1984
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32659/ ... ssy_sz1758
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34093/ ... ion_sz2045
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34088/ ... ime_sz2040
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34006/ ... _dp_sz2030
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34041/ ... cks_sz2032
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33962/ ... pie_sz2009
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33963/ ... _dp_sz2010
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31747/ ... _dp_sz1524
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33983/ ... cks_sz2018
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33956/ ... cks_sz2017
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31799/ ... ang_sz1537
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33268/ ... ion_sz1887
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33711/ ... _dp_sz1982
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33684/ ... ing_sz1973
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33658/ ... nal_sz1964
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31526/ ... lub_sz1460
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32892/ ... ion_sz1824
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31481/ ... ish_sz1448
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31794/ ... ion_sz1535
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31903/ ... ope_sz1571
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31676/ ... ing_sz1504

Do you really think that makes us want to release even more? No clearly that makes us want to release less and select more carefully what we do. All the scenes above should have never existed.

Glad the wet scenes did well. Crosses fingers for more deep anal wet content from Gonzo!

[dangl]

About half of the gonzo scenes from the last 2 months had low sales and we took a (sometimes big) loss on all of them :

Depressing. Several are really good IMO.

Are you able to speculate on why they didn't sell? The girls, the guys, the acts, the trailers, the order a girl's scenes were released and the similarity between them?

Gonzo films 50 movies as quickly as possible, but then takes a year to release those, or longer,
and the feedback takes that much longer to reach Luis

And not just feedback on directing. For example, on that list there is a scene with Laima. I don't like multi-girl and foot fetish but I might get it anyway to support Laima so she comes back. But I know that's pointless because she's probably retired by now, it was made so long ago.

You know you probably lost faith in the gangbangs that you produced,
probably because of the whole sales and cost production dilemma.
but IMO, the gangbangs were all filmed the same way a 3 on 1 scene is filmed.

This is very true, that the gangbangs spend so much time gaping and switching guys, the duration of sex is even less than a regular scene. Weaker male talent as well.

So why not a 2 on 1 followed by a "surprise" 3 on 1 as a way to make an endurance scene without the cost of a 10 on 1?



I mean, how else can Gonzo innovate without going the TAP, fisting, prolapse, and buckets of piss route? How can it get me to buy scenes from girls who aren't my favorites?

For me, besides longer scenes: a wardrobe overhaul; more uninhibited reactions from the girls, maybe even with a second camera capturing their faces, shown either inset or like an "instant replay".

[hjohjole]

Do you really think that makes us want to release even more? No clearly that makes us want to release less and select more carefully what we do. All the scenes above should have never existed.

Selecting more carefully what you do i think is the key here.

Myself i only bought 1 of these scenes, the one with Shelly Bliss, but i did regret it somewhat after watching it. It is just the same old DP grind over and over again.

I might at a later time consider buying the scenes with Swabery Baby and Alice Alcantara. But right now i am boycotting Gonzo, i am not buying any more scenes at all until they bring back 0% pussy, even if i am really in to the model.

[utopiaa]

Kinda sad. Some of the scenes on the list were very good. Like the baby swabery and blance/lyen scenes.

[dap-addict]

One could read that xxx list of those 24 no profit scenes as a fans attack for not buying them.
Or as a GIO attack for all his hard worked for success on LP.


But I think Luis and gonzo could also just learn from that list and turn it into a strength of the gonzo label again.
Some ingredients missing in gonzo 2017/8 I wanna point out:
- no predictably any more, no guaranteed 1 scene per day
- re-furbish your dressing room! Get rid of those old cloths and use DDF fashion and style of dressing. Mid2000 Italian style of porn you know, just sexy and classic.
- release some recently shot scenes earlier - but always keep some gems for later of course.
- give the user the feeling those newbies will get DAP-ed or at least TP-ed soon.
- dont settle for the odd and easy standard 3on1 DP, its not enough!
- get a new director besides Luis for gods sake! Or better yet, two of them!
- return to steady daily production after that
- shoot 0% pussy again! (minimum 30% of all gonzo output in the given month)

Ideally for me gonzo would be the other side of the GIO coin, easier and less demanding start for less adventurous girls but basically the same fare with a different film language.

[tekaneo]

Gonzo films 50 movies as quickly as possible, but then takes a year to release those, or longer,
and the feedback takes that much longer to reach Luis. Whereas with Giorgio the feedback loop seems to only be behind
weeks, maybe up to a month. I think this is it, the key to his success. And even though, he is constantly claiming that we
don't represent what the masses want, and we don't know what we are talking about here at the forum, you can always see our opinion inspire his new movies.

The future looks grimm.

This. I said it once, why they need 150 scenes shot and then 50% or more of them dont sell well. Bring back HIGH SALES TOP TOP MODELS/TOP PORNSTARS and stop trying to shot all what find around internet: STOP with those "Welcomes to Gonzo", "First..." blah blah bla blah, there are other studios to MAKE HER FIRST BLA BLA... WE WANT ONLY TOP RECOGNIZED PORNSTARS (Kristy Black, Alexis Crystal, Jessi Empera, Holly Hendrix, Cherry Kiss, Amirah Adara, Francys Belle,... and more and more with TOP SELLERS SCENES HERE). You want sells? produce QUALITY, first rule. There aren't any scenes i say "I want" from LOT of months from Gonzo and im not the only want, just check what forum members are writing too.

[ayrtight]

Newbies taking first Dp , 3 or more on 1 look hot .
I think it´s not the fault of this format .

[2017sucks]

Gonzo films 50 movies as quickly as possible, but then takes a year to release those, or longer,
and the feedback takes that much longer to reach Luis. Whereas with Giorgio the feedback loop seems to only be behind
weeks, maybe up to a month. I think this is it, the key to his success. And even though, he is constantly claiming that we
don't represent what the masses want, and we don't know what we are talking about here at the forum, you can always see our opinion inspire his new movies.

The future looks grimm.

This. I said it once, why they need 150 scenes shot and then 50% or more of them dont sell well. Bring back HIGH SALES TOP TOP MODELS/TOP PORNSTARS and stop trying to shot all what find around internet: STOP with those "Welcomes to Gonzo", "First..." blah blah bla blah, there are other studios to MAKE HER FIRST BLA BLA... WE WANT ONLY TOP RECOGNIZED PORNSTARS (Kristy Black, Alexis Crystal, Jessi Empera, Holly Hendrix, Cherry Kiss, Amirah Adara, Francys Belle,... and more and more with TOP SELLERS SCENES HERE). You want sells? produce QUALITY, first rule. There aren't any scenes i say "I want" from LOT of months from Gonzo and im not the only want, just check what forum members are writing too.

And release after 10-15 days, not after 5 years. People getting tired and pissed off with so much waiting and when you finally release, they don't want to pay. Example - Lara Onyx GANGBANG.

[Sweep11]

Some really insightful comments here. As a businessman, I trust you are listening to your customers xxx?

For my take the lack of sales comes down to:

Unknown AND average looking model.
Unknown hotties get my tickets every time!
I realise they are priced accordingly but the expensive ticket model FORCES us to be cautious about which scenes we choose to buy. Maybe the discount for those scenes is not enough?

Predictable positions, outfits, room props.
Mix it up with the outfits, scenarios, positions. In that respect I enjoy some of the Glam Porn scenes which have a different 'feel' every time, even if the action isn't always super hard. But why do I need to choose - I want variety and LP quality.

The comments about release delay and feedback process are spot on. How can you adapt to your customers needs with such a delay? Sure, some aspects of porn will not go out of fashion or get old but some surely do.
You have raised the bar for so long but it seems like the innovation has dried up somehow.

In general I'm still in love with this site but it worries me that so many scenes lost money. I see you are trying to evolve with things like GP studio, subscription model and stopping free tickets but I personally think the key is to evolve the content and be more receptive to comments.

I wish you success.

[RedBaron]

Some really insightful comments here. As a businessman, I trust you are listening to your customers xxx?

For my take the lack of sales comes down to:

Unknown AND average looking model.
Unknown hotties get my tickets every time!
I realise they are priced accordingly but the expensive ticket model FORCES us to be cautious about which scenes we choose to buy. Maybe the discount for those scenes is not enough?

Predictable positions, outfits, room props.
Mix it up with the outfits, scenarios, positions. In that respect I enjoy some of the Glam Porn scenes which have a different 'feel' every time, even if the action isn't always super hard. But why do I need to choose - I want variety and LP quality.

The comments about release delay and feedback process are spot on. How can you adapt to your customers needs with such a delay? Sure, some aspects of porn will not go out of fashion or get old but some surely do.
You have raised the bar for so long but it seems like the innovation has dried up somehow.

In general I'm still in love with this site but it worries me that so many scenes lost money. I see you are trying to evolve with things like GP studio, subscription model and stopping free tickets but I personally think the key is to evolve the content and be more receptive to comments.

I wish you success.

Thats absolutely true.
XXX, tonight you are offering a scene with Timea Bella?! I was in pornlove with her years ago but now no more. Tonight you will also offer a scene with Anna de Ville. XXX, what do you think which scene I will buy?

Perhaps this idea could help to offer the "right" scenes:
On every model site you can see her released scenes. Show also the unreleased scenes with the trailers and every member can have a look and vote for the scenes like the suggestions in the suggest area.

[drinside]

About half of the gonzo scenes from the last 2 months had low sales and we took a (sometimes big) loss on all of them :

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33713/ ... uys_sz1984
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32659/ ... ssy_sz1758
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34093/ ... ion_sz2045
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34088/ ... ime_sz2040
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34006/ ... _dp_sz2030
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34041/ ... cks_sz2032
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33962/ ... pie_sz2009
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33963/ ... _dp_sz2010
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31747/ ... _dp_sz1524
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33983/ ... cks_sz2018
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33956/ ... cks_sz2017
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31799/ ... ang_sz1537
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33268/ ... ion_sz1887
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33711/ ... _dp_sz1982
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33684/ ... ing_sz1973
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33658/ ... nal_sz1964
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31526/ ... lub_sz1460
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32892/ ... ion_sz1824
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31481/ ... ish_sz1448
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31794/ ... ion_sz1535
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31903/ ... ope_sz1571
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/31676/ ... ing_sz1504

Do you really think that makes us want to release even more? No clearly that makes us want to release less and select more carefully what we do. All the scenes above should have never existed.

Well xxx that's the problem, you guys are always trying to make your costumers the reason why the things are not going well.

If a scene don't sell well don't you think the content could be not what we want? Or it was not well filmed or performed?

Start to listen to your customers, try to get them more involved, engage your public. That's a professional marketing manager talking not just a regular kid.

We've saying that Glam Porn is bullshit and you guys don't stop it. Why not invest the time, the money and the effort to bring talents that we ask and scenes that we're always asking you to film.

Talk to GIO and get some advice. He's working hard to improve. Look his work between the years.. today he's best direct of porn easily.

Still with all these problem Legalporno continues to be the better studio in porn world. The only problem is that you don't listen what people are saying.