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Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:31 amby Mav99ex
I just watched the latest Silvia Dellai Scene GIO2354 and I can't help wondering what's the point of showing several minutes of screenshots from the same scene at the end of it?!?
In this particular case the scene's listed with a length of 63 minutes but in reality it's only 57 minutes, the remaining 6 minutes are nothing but screenshots. Why?!?
Personally I think that's completely ridiculous and useless. It's even more pointless and inexplicable considering that anyone interested in these screenshots can simple see them in the gallery or download them in a zip.
I would really like to know what's the purpose of this?
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:41 pmby Sir Noel
Agreed, just an annoyance
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:23 amby Gubbeiladan123
I think the only purpose is the make the scene look longer than it actully is.
Its real shameless tbh!
Stop it please GIO!
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:52 amby cumdump
totally unnecessary indeed
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:18 amby jerrybb
Please stop Giorgio is is extra annoying as if I having a quick view will quite often skip to the cum shots at the end and now it makes them difficult to find.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:38 pmby Giorgio Grandi
The screenshot at the end of the video will stay for long time.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:06 pmby YuriyProneBone
It is super annoying, at least they should make sure to put the real duration of the video without the slideshow to not deceive costumers.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 amby TomHardick
cumdump wrote:totally unnecessary indeed
x1000, i don't understand the purpose.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:52 pmby dap-addict
Giorgio Grandi wrote:The screenshot at the end of the video will stay for long time.
But what is the reason for that?
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:49 pmby beklof
I just watched the Juis Wild video. Marked as length 1.17,16 Well GG, you can shove your thanks up your ass. Last 6 minutes we've to watch your fucking stills! So, a new way to cheat us!!! You fucking cheaters should be ashamed, but it's pointless to expect that from people like you.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:14 amby chemonro15
Giorgio Grandi wrote:The screenshot at the end of the video will stay for long time.
you just love ignoring anything the fans have to say dont you
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:22 pmby LordCrash
Giorgio Grandi wrote:The screenshot at the end of the video will stay for long time.
Wow, super feedback, basically just showing everyone the finger.
You know that this is bullshit that nobody has asked for. Be at least honest with your customers why it exists in the first place...
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:53 pmby Mav99ex
Giorgio Grandi wrote:The screenshot at the end of the video will stay for long time.
WHY?
Is it too much to ask for an explanation for this useless junk?
Blowing up the runtime like this could be called false advertising... or scam, to not use an even stronger word...
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:23 pmby Mav99ex
Well, since you can't be bothered to explain the reason for these useless stills, all we can do is guess. Here's mine:
The only reason for this I can think off is to blow up the runtime of your scenes. To intentionally mislead your customers about how much content they actually get when they buy your videos. Feels like cheating. Some people might even call this fraud.
If I'm wrong, and you think, for example, that this junk has any artistic value, you could just add the "slideshow" as an extra video, a separate download. But I somehow doubt that's ever gonna happen.
So my conclusion is that you don't give a fuck about your customers. Unless you prove me wrong and stop this bullshit or at least explain it properly, I'll never buy another scene from you! There's more than enough other good content, from other studios here and elsewhere, where the producers don't try to screw theirs customers.
I might even cancel my subscription because I have plenty of tickets left and now less content to choose from. So I might just as well take my money elsewhere...
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:15 amby zeusanalfreak299
Don't buy the scenes and write that reason in the forum. They will change it quickly if many consumers will do that. It's simple. Because even Giorgio is stubborn and acts irrationally. They think they know it better than the audience.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:36 pmby annmsklr5
Doesn't it have something to do with machine learning, Giorgio? Just curious...
Q to others: Why does it bother you if it's at the end? Just close the video after you're done watching the video and ignore the rest or do you, guys, play scenes from a playlist or something?
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:58 pmby YuriyProneBone
I imagine it is just self sabotaging. When producers start doing good in one area, like adding roleplaying to the scenes with a plot script, they tend to counter the win by doing something retarded like adding a slideshow at the end of the videos.
It is basically an internal thermometer they have where they don't allow themselves to have too much success.
We have seen this before. For example at some point every GIO scene had prone bone, and there were lots of trains, so the scenes would sell well.
Then they stopped doing that and added more cowgirl time which obviously is less dominating, and in an anal website, the less dominating the less it sells.
So it was just another way to counter the success. So the growing in sales slowdown a bit and it doesn't feel overwhelming. It's a psychological self defeating thing that usually manifest in stubborn behavior against their best interests.
The problem is that because it's self inflicting, it usually means there is a lot of self rationalization that goes on in their minds justifying their self destructive behavior as something acceptable, sometimes even good, but they are just lying to themselves.
The other issue is that because it is a measure against good decisions, the good decisions mitigate the damage, so it is more difficult for them to detect the negative behavior, even in the presence of real feedback against it.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:31 amby Giorgio Grandi
there is a technical reason why the SS are there, totally pointless to explain you the reason as most ppl would just do not understand it or even worse, misunderstood it
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:06 amby Mav99ex
So now you say we're stupid. Thanks a lot...
Why don't you give it a try?
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:19 pmby Giorgio Grandi
Mav99ex wrote:So now you say we're stupid. Thanks a lot...
Why don't you give it a try?
Read just this topic, I have been defined as: stubborn, irrational, misleader, cheater, frauder, shameful... for few minutes of caps at the end of a scene.
To Be Honest, who wants an explanation is free to contact me with the chat of PB.
This will be my last post on the forum for long time
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:48 pmby zeusanalfreak299
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Mav99ex wrote:So now you say we're stupid. Thanks a lot...
Why don't you give it a try?
Read just this topic, I have been defined as: stubborn, irrational, misleader, cheater, frauder, shameful... for few minutes of caps at the end of a scene.
To Be Honest, who wants an explanation is free to contact me with the chat of PB.
This will be my last post on the forum for long time
Sorry but many asked this at the beginning, for example dap addict. And the answer was like "it will stay for a long time. Live with that. Not your cup of tea".
Don't wonder if other people start to think about all possible motivations or start thinking that you are ignorant (at least in this thread). The people here are not stupid but frustrated. And they react more emotional to several statements like they used to in times when things are better. You know that better as a director. I don't need to explain you that. But some buzzwords at the beginning would explain everything and avoid speculations. We would google and understand everything. It's like you would be a manager on a press conference. But again. You know better what I mean. Have a great evening! (Y)
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:21 pmby Mav99ex
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Read just this topic, I have been defined as: stubborn, irrational, misleader, cheater, frauder, shameful... for few minutes of caps at the end of a scene.
To Be Honest, who wants an explanation is free to contact me with the chat of PB.
This will be my last post on the forum for long time
Shame on us, really. How can we question your decisions. What an insult.
Okay, let's be serious. Everything you listed there, seems to be true, doesn't it?
For no apparent reason you start to add multiple minutes of useless junk at the end of your scenes. So I started this thread to ask why you do that. But obviously you don't want to explain it. You are apparently stubborn and irrational and now you're sulking.
And I believe, when up to 10% of your videos suddenly are nothing but pointless screenshots, your paying customers deserve some explanation for this. Because this DOES feel like being cheated. And until you give another reason for this, that's the most logical explanation. That you intentionally mislead your customers to believe the scenes are longer than they actually are. And as I said, some people might call this fraud.
If you want to leave it at that, fine. Your choice.
Oh, btw., hiding in the chat is so convenient, isn't it? People need to have bought enough scenes in the last month to qualify to chat with you or your studio. I haven't, since I don't care for this screenshot crap. But maybe I'll just buy a couple of older scenes, without that slideshow BS, just to get the chance to ask again. Then we'll see if I get an answer that way...
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:53 pmby lecastelsBEAM
I like the screenshots at the end of the scene, it has a nostalgic feeling about it, it's like a good metaphor that expresses the culmination grandeur and beautifulness of what we have just visualized in that scene
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:03 amby annmsklr5
Screenshots used to be at the end of DVDs for ages, honestly I don't see why it's a problem now with media files.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:53 amby Shaner_g_yo
Screenshots are annoying I agree.
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Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:50 amby Pboxer88
lecastelsBEAM wrote:I like the screenshots at the end of the scene, it has a nostalgic feeling about it, it's like a good metaphor that expresses the culmination grandeur and beautifulness of what we have just visualized in that scene
I like the screenshots too. They don't bother me.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:12 pmby davebowman
Wow - only just discovered this bullshit. Bought an Alexxa Vice scene that came out today, advertised as 44 minute running time, turns out its only 39 minutes long, with 5 minutes of still images at the end. See as the Photosets and Screenshots are downloadable for anyone who wants them, the only reason I can think for having these is to bloat the running time, and make the buyer think the scenes are longer than they are actually getting. Ridiculous.
Re: Useless screenshots at the end of videos!?
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Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:16 pmby YuriyProneBone
If the technical benefit is having better thumbnails, it doesn't benefit the consumer at all, if it is for reaching a new bracket in terms of length, it doesn't benefit the consumer directly, in other words it is just false advertising, and annoying as hell.
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