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Wtf is going on? More half of the scenes use fake cum or a combo of real & fake. We are not fucking idiots, we can see what a real creampie is. Cutting the scene right before creampie, or zoom into the girls face to use a syringe to put fake cum. You got so fucking lazy at one point that you could actually see the shadow of the arm coming to inject cum.

Even if no cum is coming out just get another couple of guys on standby to cum too (like what Rocco did just add guys for more cumshots at the end).

We are not fucking idiots and it insults our intelligence and destroys the scene completely. In fact I’ve asked for a refund for a couple of scenes because of this. From now on I’m going to request a refund for every fake cum scene and I think we should all do the same. Because it’s ultimately fraudulent, we are paying for an anal creampie ie SPERM sucked out of another girls ass, not fake cum.

So from now onwards here is what we want - from now on, no zooming into face just before /during creampie. No edits/scene cuts before creampie. Open ass & push out COMPLETELY BEFORE each creampie so that we know it’s genuine and real.

When paying such a premium prices The least I expect is a genuine creampie to other girls mouth.

I'm not into creampies that much, i prefer cumshots in mouth; but i understand perfectly your point. I think it's pretty obvious that the guys are shooting more than one scene per day, so, with fake creampies, you can have them fucking girls the whole day without even cumming. Sad, but more scenes, more money. I usually avoid these kind of scenes, the fake cumshots kill all the magic, at least for me. Cheers!

I skip all creampie endings, fake AF, but not just this site. In porn, if it can be faked, it will be. That will not change.

croydonparking wrote:Wtf is going on? More half of the scenes use fake cum or a combo of real & fake. We are not fucking idiots, we can see what a real creampie is. Cutting the scene right before creampie, or zoom into the girls face to use a syringe to put fake cum. You got so fucking lazy at one point that you could actually see the shadow of the arm coming to inject cum.

Even if no cum is coming out just get another couple of guys on standby to cum too (like what Rocco did just add guys for more cumshots at the end).

We are not fucking idiots and it insults our intelligence and destroys the scene completely. In fact I’ve asked for a refund for a couple of scenes because of this. From now on I’m going to request a refund for every fake cum scene and I think we should all do the same. Because it’s ultimately fraudulent, we are paying for an anal creampie ie SPERM sucked out of another girls ass, not fake cum.

So from now onwards here is what we want - from now on, no zooming into face just before /during creampie. No edits/scene cuts before creampie. Open ass & push out COMPLETELY BEFORE each creampie so that we know it’s genuine and real.

When paying such a premium prices The least I expect is a genuine creampie to other girls mouth.

Are you really doing this Giorgio?

drevokocur66 wrote:I skip all creampie endings, fake AF, but not just this site. In porn, if it can be faked, it will be. That will not change.

Not all are. Quite a few a real, especially in the ones with multiple. It’s when they zoom into a girls face and inject fake cum, or worse bad edit where they cut the same just before.

There’s quite a lot of real ones that are actually quite incredible. Now what they’ve been doing is actually mixing real with fake which really fucks it up.

jerrybb wrote:

croydonparking wrote:Wtf is going on? More half of the scenes use fake cum or a combo of real & fake. We are not fucking idiots, we can see what a real creampie is. Cutting the scene right before creampie, or zoom into the girls face to use a syringe to put fake cum. You got so fucking lazy at one point that you could actually see the shadow of the arm coming to inject cum.

Even if no cum is coming out just get another couple of guys on standby to cum too (like what Rocco did just add guys for more cumshots at the end).

We are not fucking idiots and it insults our intelligence and destroys the scene completely. In fact I’ve asked for a refund for a couple of scenes because of this. From now on I’m going to request a refund for every fake cum scene and I think we should all do the same. Because it’s ultimately fraudulent, we are paying for an anal creampie ie SPERM sucked out of another girls ass, not fake cum.

So from now onwards here is what we want - from now on, no zooming into face just before /during creampie. No edits/scene cuts before creampie. Open ass & push out COMPLETELY BEFORE each creampie so that we know it’s genuine and real.

When paying such a premium prices The least I expect is a genuine creampie to other girls mouth.

Are you really doing this Giorgio?

Yes but it’s not in all scenes. You can see it very clearly, edit before the final. Zooming into face each time. There’s an easy way to prevent this, which is what I’ve written above.

So from now onwards here is what we want - from now on, no zooming into face just before /during creampie. No edits/scene cuts before creampie. Open ass & push out COMPLETELY BEFORE each creampie so that we know it’s genuine and real.

drevokocur66 wrote:I skip all creampie endings, fake AF, but not just this site. In porn, if it can be faked, it will be. That will not change.

hahahaha, i do the same, skip all creampies endings; not interested in fake shots.

TomHardick wrote:

drevokocur66 wrote:I skip all creampie endings, fake AF, but not just this site. In porn, if it can be faked, it will be. That will not change.

hahahaha, i do the same, skip all creampies endings; not interested in fake shots.

Yeah but not all of them are fake. That’s the thing there’s quite a few real ones but he’s given such a bad impression by doing so many fake ones.

Who cares...

I would rather see "fake" cum and a lot of it pouring out.

Versus....

2 drops :/

You know that piss in the ass isnt piss to right?

They fill her ass with water first...just so you know.

Better to have something good

Then mediocre

Who cares...

I would rather see "fake" cum and a lot of it pouring out.

Versus....

2 drops :/

You know that piss in the ass isnt piss to right?

They fill her ass with water first...just so you know.

Better to have something good

Then mediocre

fighthardin321 wrote:Who cares...

I would rather see "fake" cum and a lot of it pouring out.

Versus....

2 drops :/

You know that piss in the ass isnt piss to right?

They fill her ass with water first...just so you know.

Better to have something good

Then mediocre

Enema > fake cum

fighthardin321 wrote:Who cares...

I would rather see "fake" cum and a lot of it pouring out.
Versus....
2 drops :/
You know that piss in the ass isnt piss to right?
They fill her ass with water first...just so you know.
Better to have something good
Then mediocre

I think that’s total bullshit. I would rather see two drops of real cum than a gallon of fake cum. Just just destroys the scene.

I just decided to not buy about 4 recent scenes I had in my GIO wishlist because of fake creampies.

I realize its a problem for some studs to fuck wood-proof during 2-3 scenes per day and also shoot off real goo. But I'd sort of expect that from a pro stud.
I think there has to be some user pressure on studio to get this worked out better.

Btw, Subject of this thread is bs ofc. I dont want a refund at all. Its pretty easy to check whether creampies are fake or real and I sure dont want any refund if fake cum is used in a scene I bought maybe hoping for real goo. Thats not the point!

Point is I simply try to not support fake creampies any longer!

Fake cum is cheating users! So I don't buy. For me most of the times the trailer is clear enough.
GIO has been worse years ago. But it' true the more creampies the more fake cum.

Studios must use amateur guys at the end just for big Poppin.
I would help for free lol

marcimilan wrote:Studios must use amateur guys at the end just for big Poppin.
I would help for free lol

lol Who wouldn't.

Some are real, the problem is it’s insulting your intelligence. Please refund all the ones that are clearly fake, or we can even make a list here to refund. The reason is anything else just encourages this.

croydonparking wrote:That’s the thing there’s quite a few real ones but he’s given such a bad impression by doing so many fake ones.

This is a real one:
No cut. And than at least a tiny left-over cum drop coming visibly out of creampie-er dick.
(sz101 of 2013 - https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/26942)
Eight years ago this was the standard on LP/AV. But where we got now?
And sadly its exactly former innovative force GIO driving it more and more fake.

Can we have a list with all fake cum scenes?

I totally agree can we make one? I’ve personally asked for a refund for all of the fake ones.

lp-fan wrote:Can we have a list with all fake cum scenes?

Yes, that would help a lot.

There is a thread about how to ID fake cream pies and fake cumshots in general. I'll post the link once I found it again.
But anyway, it's pretty easy to tell fake from real: Mainly by cuts, missing goo oozing out of cocks and goo consistency.

I post this Giorgio Grandi comment here, because it shows it is hurting:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

2017sucks wrote:To be a station to GIO where she will ends up with 2 on 1 fake cum scenes.

This is the classic topic without any sense, connected to a pointless thread that from April 26 got 2400 visit and 22 replay, with a survey that got 52 answers on a forum that, at today, has over 2 million and 600 thousand users
statistically, the topic 'Euro-2020 series" is more interesting.
Said that, without to enter in the details, porn is not reality. Porn it is not meant to be reality. Porn is fiction and it has to stay as it is: fiction.
And the stupid crusade against "fake cum" (based on suspicious, inferences and 99% of the time on a simple technical decision during the editing) do not penalise me, but eventually penalise the model (but, as the number of ppl involved in the crusade is so small, it doesnt penalise anyone).
The choice is between to wait several minutes between each cumshot (because porn actors needs time to cum) with a continuous sequence shot, or make cuts. I choose cuts, because this is the way to do it.
You (all) dont know what you are talking about. You watch porn, I shoot porn almost 20 years, with all respect I know how to do it better.

This said it also makes me think and reconsider: I sure dont want to penalize models!

GG's silence here speaks volumes. This thread has been at the top for 3-months. Clean out ass with tongue after EACH creampie. ALL ONE SCENE. No bullshit edited sound like in GG videos - I want to hear the sound of squelching/squishing/anal like in old Sineplex scenes and real life....

Example consider two scenes - Double Anal Teen Creampies scene #1420 with Logan, DOUBLE ANAL (Olga Barz) - you can actually hear ass squelching when getting double analed... This is not post-production, this is real... And this was 10 years ago.

The only recent scene that has come close is is interracial Vision with Rebel rhyder - you can hear ass squelching in double anal... Another Olga Barz scene - anal creampie sluts - has one of the most amazing creampies I've seen - personally I've never made a girl having explosive cumfart so I'm not even sure if whether or not it's real? What do you think?

Despite Giorgio downplaying poll and boycott of some users, there is actually a first effect of threads like these:
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217302 (both creampies are real!)

how do u know if is fake cum????

do u have proof????

cumming is very easy/extremely easy for a male

most males cum everyday, why would they fake it????

1. Because they work not only on 1 set every day 5-6 days per week, but 2-3 sets.
2. Some girls also demand no real semen for creampies. (I skip names here, but some do)

dap-addict wrote:1. Because they work not only on 1 set every day 5-6 days per week, but 2-3 sets.
2. Some girls also demand no real semen for creampies. (I skip names here, but some do)

but do u have proof????

still i think a male can cum 1-2 times per day everyday & a lot

also i dont think most work that much '2-3 scenes per day 5-6 days a week'

Some girls also demand no real semen for creampies

that seems a lot of bs to me
a pornstar not liking real semen

?

that you could actually see the shadow of the arm coming to inject cum.

show the screenshot of that

LP should hire some guys from Premium Bukkake and the problem is solved. It´s easy to do.

I’ve had to refund the last couple scenes. There was some good ones though. Also, please make “ anal cream pie to other girls mouth” category on the main page. They finally added it as a category but the last scene was 15 days ago.

Big fake cum anal creampie in todays Sandra Soul, Moona Snake & Anna de Ville VS 1wet, Fisting scene... right?
Stop this please. True cum or no anal creampie please!

Too many users ask for creampies.
Makes it so easy for studios to fake.
Most porn watchers dont care it seems.
For them it just has to look good.

edit:
With GIO I actually went on its-sure-faked shopping mode if I see cream pie tag.
I than decide if I need a cumshot with given girl or just can stop watching before.
But I definitely buy much less cream pie scenes than I used to. Or I buy them with other studios faking them less often.

dap-addict wrote:Too many users ask for creampies.
Makes it so easy for studios to fake.
Most porn watchers dont care it seems.
For them it just has to look good.

Because porn is not reality. Porn, like every movie, is stages and this is the way to do it.
Do you ask to have real gunfight with real bullets on an action movie? I do not think so.

If a model doesnt want to drink pee but she is able to make a proper swallow (because she feel to gulp pee is disgusting), I do not see any problem, it is still pee drinking
If a model doesnt want to get cum in her ass (there are many and the reason is reasonable) I am not going to discriminate her because of this. We can do it another way.

This misogynist and humiliating attitude towards pornographic female performers, masked complaining to a director/producer, when the content are already extremely hard to perform, is getting boring, dangerous and it's totally shameful.

What will be the next step? To have Real emotion on the stage? Real Love? True intimacy?
You get already some shreds of this and often even more, be happy because comparing to 10 years ago, you are getting the moon.

You are free to ask for a refund if you believe a creampiee is fake or a pee-swallow if fake. If this is a reason to cancel the previous 45 minuted when girl got banged in the ass, do it if you wish so, honestly this doesnt make you much of a man, but please feel free to do it.
But if you believe that with this attitude I will force a model/s to do something they do not want to do, or I will have have a poor cinematic output to satisfy few unrespectful members that without the REAL feeling cant get hard, you can start "hiding" my studios using the proper tool on PB.

The important work is not REAL, but SAFE (SAFE & CONFORT)

Well, cum and cum shots have been faked in porn for decades.
I don’t really have any interest at all in cream pies - I know that others do.

But I don’t think that your argument holds water. Yes, they fake the bullets and explosions etc in movies but they are also acting out sex scenes - the sex is faked and just about everybody understands that. In porn the fucking is real - that’s rather the whole point isn’t it? So what’s next, fake fucking because the porn actress doesn’t want it in the ass today? Then accuse the customer of misogyny if he thinks that she should because the scene is described as including anal? (Just tell them that porn is not reality).

Clearly, no porn actress should be forced to do something that she does not want to do. She doesn’t want to do anal, then no anal. Doesn’t want to be peed on, fine, no wet scenes. Doesn’t want a cream pie, so no cream pie in the scene. But then don’t include the fake cream pie (or whatever) and pretend that it is real. If you think you need to include a faked action in a scene have the basic honesty to describe it as such - the scene description or tag should not say cream pie but simulated cream pie. Then nobody has a justifiable complaint.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

dap-addict wrote:Too many users ask for creampies.
Makes it so easy for studios to fake.
Most porn watchers dont care it seems.
For them it just has to look good.

Because porn is not reality. Porn, like every movie, is stages and this is the way to do it.
Do you ask to have real gunfight with real bullets on an action movie? I do not think so.

If a model doesnt want to drink pee but she is able to make a proper swallow (because she feel to gulp pee is disgusting), I do not see any problem, it is still pee drinking
If a model doesnt want to get cum in her ass (there are many and the reason is reasonable) I am not going to discriminate her because of this. We can do it another way.

This misogynist and humiliating attitude towards pornographic female performers, masked complaining to a director/producer, when the content are already extremely hard to perform, is getting boring, dangerous and it's totally shameful.

What will be the next step? To have Real emotion on the stage? Real Love? True intimacy?
You get already some shreds of this and often even more, be happy because comparing to 10 years ago, you are getting the moon.

You are free to ask for a refund if you believe a creampiee is fake or a pee-swallow if fake. If this is a reason to cancel the previous 45 minuted when girl got banged in the ass, do it if you wish so, honestly this doesnt make you much of a man, but please feel free to do it.
But if you believe that with this attitude I will force a model/s to do something they do not want to do, or I will have have a poor cinematic output to satisfy few unrespectful members that without the REAL feeling cant get hard, you can start "hiding" my studios using the proper tool on PB.

The important work is not REAL, but SAFE (SAFE & CONFORT)

I generally only want things to see where the girls are ok with it. When a girl is not ok with swallowing a creampie from ass with true cum than it's ok, so no creampie-swalloing in the scene. But if she is, why then using fake cum? I still don't get it. Sorry.

I am not asking for a refund, but it would be nice to see lots of real anal creampies.
I can only imagine that most of the male performers are so aroused during the shoot, that they have ejaculated many times already...so by the end, they have no sperm left in the tank?

number1s wrote:? So what’s next, fake fucking because the porn actress doesn’t want it in the ass today?

Greg Lansky and the Vixen Group have been doing this for years. Girl is taken from behind and between the legs of the male performer swings his limp cock back and forth. And do you think all the TAP scenes here are real? There is no movement at all. One dick is in the butt and the other two are probably not even close to the anus. You can't see anything at all - it's camera magic. Even in many DAP scenes, the girl is penetrated by only one cock. The other one often falls "out" immediately with every movement.

number1s wrote:Well, cum and cum shots have been faked in porn for decades.
In porn the fucking is real - that’s rather the whole point isn’t it? So what’s next, fake fucking because the porn actress doesn’t want it in the ass today? Then accuse the customer of misogyny if he thinks that she should because the scene is described as including anal? (Just tell them that porn is not reality).

Clearly, no porn actress should be forced to do something that she does not want to do. She doesn’t want to do anal, then no anal. Doesn’t want to be peed on, fine, no wet scenes. Doesn’t want a cream pie, so no cream pie in the scene. But then don’t include the fake cream pie (or whatever) and pretend that it is real. If you think you need to include a faked action in a scene have the basic honesty to describe it as such - the scene description or tag should not say cream pie but simulated cream pie. Then nobody has a justifiable complaint.

Probably I did not express myself completely in my previous post. I am sorry, Let me go deeper
Porn is not only fiction, it is also entertainment, like wrestling.
In wrestling the fight is real but it is staged. The blood can be real or fake, sometimes is done thought "blading", so it is not real consequence of the fight, sometimes with capsules, so it is even more gross.

is the fucking real in porn? Believe what you want, but it is not real at all. It is staged.
Something staged is not real, really keep this is mind and a full word of reality will open towards you.

If for "real", you mean the dick actually penetrate the anus of the girl, well also a Brainbuster in wrestling is real, but does it really hurts like it looks like in the video?
No, because is staged.
The same is for the dick in the ass, does it really feels like in real life?
No because the sex act is staged

So, faked, doesnt mean the dick is not inside, it means simply that even if the penetration is really there, the sex act is faked.

The meaning of porn, is not to represent a realistic sex act, the meaning of porn is to represent a sex act in the best way is possible, specially the visual output.
In real ,what you are watching is staged every time, so it is fake. You can have all real cum you want, it is still faked, what makes it real is you libido exploding because your brain believe it is real.
But it is not real, real cum doesnt mean "real", because there is nothing real at all in the video itself. Porn is an exaggerated representation of a reality that does not exist.
Imagine that tomorrow I publish a scene in the dim light, with a sex act 15 minutes long, where the performer does what they want, without to "please the camera", without to fuck in the right way, without to keep attention to whatever we keep attention in a normal video. imagine I will release only content like this every day.
This is real and you will not like it.

If you start to assume only the true, without to consider what drives you libido (knowing that something is Real), in porn everything is possible and this is the point of modern porn.
If instead you let just your libido to drive you, you just lose the control as a misogynist.

Do not let the word "real" to drive your libido. What is real is the love for your wife, the car you driving, the food you are tasting: porn is not real, it is not meant to be and even if you get several shreds of reality, remember it is done to entertain you. You brain got pleased thinking it is real but most ppl got pleased just for the images in the video.

Real and porn are so far away you cant even visualize how far they are