Something wrong with GIO?

[wiedzmin45]

This is just my opinion...

For the last six months, the GIO scenes have become almost uninteresting to me. I see only mechanical sex, without pleasure, just to shoot as many scenes as possible. The original approach and the desire to add something new or make a really hot scene disappeared.

I'll give you an example. A few years ago, such great scenes were filmed as:
8on2 Belle Factor part 1&2
Inside Arwen Gold
Black Busters, 5on1 Ria Sun
Live conversations and acting, sometimes atypical filming locations, and just beautiful and hot sex distinguishes these scenes.

I realy miss a small interview before or after the scene, and I don't say anything about BTS at all.

It is a pity that the games with sperm were lost, as in the scene of Ninfo Animal with TouchDown. Kathy Heven and Ornella Morgan.

BRING BACK Real Facials/Bukkake!!! MISS IT SO MUCH

Disappointing lack of ass games on the part of Gorgio, great examples:
Ria Sunn 4on1 DP /DAP /GAPES /CRAMPIE /SWALLOW & SWAP Lets take care more of Ria's Ass!
Sperm Junkie #1, Lina Love

It is very sad that such series as Waka Waka/blackbusters, psycho doctor, blackended, facialized have disappeared. Extremely rarely come out 7on1, 8on1 about 10on1 in general I am silent.

But most of all it is a shame for the rolled series
Black pee. The same thing, the same thing every 2-3 days, if not more often. BRING BACK Dylan/Freddy/Mike, for real balls deep bbc dap, tired of the same Brooklyn/Oskar/Morgan line-up.
Old great Bbc dap scenes I miss:
Double Anal Creampie, Avi Love
Double Anal BBC with Megan Venturi
2on1 BBC with Zoe Sparks
Double Anal Creampie Lauren Phillips
Double Anal Creampie Megan Venturi

Should talk about pee. Previously, I really liked the Fucking Wet Beer Festival series, it can be said that it was a highlight for each model on the LP. Now almost every time we shoot scenes with pee, but in the end it's just for show. It is better to shoot scenes with pee with those models who like it, and not those who writhe from it and spit, and not drink

I understand that the pandemic has made serious adjustments, but the price is rising, and the quality is standing still or getting worse.

If you agree/disagree with my opinion, please write

[dap-addict]

1st post after 2 years of membership:
But what a hight quality posting, some time and thought put into it:cool:

This is just my opinion...
(...)
I see only mechanical sex, without pleasure, just to shoot as many scenes as possible. The original approach and the desire to add something new or make a really hot scene disappeared.
(...)
But most of all it is a shame for the rolled series
Black pee. The same thing, the same thing every 2-3 days, if not more often. (...)

If you agree/disagree with my opinion, please write

It is sure not only mechanical sex, but more output also for sure meant more professionalism and less of that old fine just-let-it-go vibe. Old GIO scenes from 2015/16 are almost experimental, actually. I have a huge nostalgia for them - even though sex was often weak in todays terms.

I think huge change was when Giorgio Grandi decided the directing was too much for him alone and found his assistant director. Now Andrey does a great job, but he has not the charisma of Giorgio. And that shows in the product.

About same BBC piss always: with GIO it was almost since beginning that they released theme clusters instead of mixture of themes. Giorgio explained it even once here, but I forgot what was his reasoning or did not understand it. Anyway, he sure knows what he does! And he does a release policy helping his overall studio sales. Its a business after all and not a hobby like porn watching is!
BBC crew always varied btw, currently its a lot of Tony & Yves, previously it was a lot of Dylan & Freddy or Dylan&Mike. Me, too, I preferred the previous mix, but fact is also Dylan is better in 1on1 than teamwork and Freddy is working for other LP studios meanwhile. Its just as it is: BBC talent base is very thin in Prague, its thin everywhere in EU porn capitals.

[dap-addict]

Btw, wiedzmin45, would be really great if you would add the pornbox links to the scenes you mention!

[avanfurwet]

BBC crew always varied btw, currently its a lot of Tony & Yves, previously it was a lot of Dylan & Freddy or Dylan&Mike. Me, too, I preferred the previous mix, but fact is also Dylan is better in 1on1 than teamwork and Freddy is working for other LP studios meanwhile. Its just as it is: BBC talent base is very thin in Prague, its thin everywhere in EU porn capitals.

I guess if Freddy is still friends with Tabitha he may be spending more time in Cz and he may be more available to different Cz studios for work? Just speculation.

[dap-addict]

They live together in Berlin since few months. But Berlin - Prague is not far.
Anyway, Freddy in Prague mainly works for gonzo meanwhile. Also F + T dont work together in job an Tabitha works a lot for GIO. As with all staff stuff there is often a persona story behind - and it would be nice if fans would start regarding these actresses and porn studs as people and not just numbers/statistics/names/shades of black and white skin etc.

[wiedzmin45]

Btw, wiedzmin45, would be really great if you would add the pornbox links to the scenes you mention!

Later today i'l add links and some photos for semple, now I just expressed a general idea, will add something else

[dap-addict]

Great post all in all!

[drevokocur66]

Possible professional burnout, it happenes.

[wiedzmin45]

GG just not hot anymore.
And never look like a good time is being had by anyone.
I don't even look at Giorgio previews anymore. They're all the same. Just substitute one girl for another, but do exactly the same things.

+

[avanfurwet]

Well, I guess Giorgio has found his formula and it works for him. So long as his sales numbers hold up, he has no motivation to change his tune. I think nowadays he looks to outside producers selling under his GL label for any new or different angles.

[dap-addict]

When it's a Giorgio Lab trailer, I can tell which ones are Giorgio even before the credits: they're the ones with the seizure inducing edits, flashing lights, and all of the hackneyed common too familiar postures, foot on the head crap; just boring porn unless you are a novice in porn viewing.

You must be talking about the Russian films produced directly in Piter for GLab.
You really have to distinguish between:
1) originally still Giorgio Grandi directed films, like about 10-15 at start 2021.
2) Giorgio assistant director directed films
3) Russian films shot by Erika Korti, Eduard, Oliver Trunk etc for GLab

Users for years asked for more GIO proper productions in Prague and GIO provided it. Thats the good side. But in doing so studio had to professionalize, also Giorgio built up his thewondertoys.com dildo factory and mail order. I think Giorgio Grandi knows pretty well his films would be better if he directed more himself again, but he is probably too busy to do it and also has lost some of his initially very big patience with rookie girls. He wrote here about it mentioning the Zee Twins shooting of 2020 for instance.
Anyway, above is the explanation of what is happening and why if I assess this right that is.

How to change it?
Keep same output, but find a 2nd assistant director with own vision a but but Andrey's eye.
Let Anna de Ville, maybe Rebecca Sharon and Lydia Black direct some films.
Giorgio Grandi directs at least 4 films each month himself.
Like this:
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/214920 (Jessy Jay, GIO1705)
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/214708 (Lina Arian, GIO1709)

But sure not cut down production! Not for this new studio was rented anyway. That's not the way in those difficult times with less users spending less money on porn because of economic reasons.

[Jocke]

I think Gio is the best and I appreciate every wet scene, especially if with more than one girl.

Just look at all the scenes with the Italian girls. Fantastic enthusiasm and professionalism. Always great camera work. I have no complaints!

[Tito1981]

I forgot a year ago Giergio Grandi. I used to buy his scene weeks after weeks when he shoot interracial scenes with freddy, yves, oscar sometimes with Mike. Especially those icon series waka waka, blackbusrer. I don't know what happened to Giergio he is focused unwatchable Tony and pissing and trans videos.

[gc0220]

If you're going to complain about poor videography in porn, this site is one of the least bad you will find. Almost no one compares to the skill of the Japanese Adult Video, but compared to a lot of other sites out there this is one of the better ones. There is A LOT of badly filmed porn in the world.

[dap-addict]

GIO film quality is really good, yep.
Girls quality @ GIO is also good.
Anal sex quality is superb.
Piss quality looks ok to me but I am no expert in that field.

Only problem is a certain coldness and a certain conveyer belt feeling.

[gc0220]

I was replying to comment by otto, I think. I don't know, I'm delirious from working too much, sleeping too little and eating nothing or just shit.

[Jocke]

How to change it?
Keep same output, but find a 2nd assistant director with own vision but Andrey's eye.
Let Anna de Ville, maybe Rebecca Sharon and Lydia Black direct some films.

I think this is a great idea! It is arousing to think that what you see are the dirty fantasies of the girls!

Jessy Jay, Tabitha Poison, Cherry Kiss, Giada Sgh and many more. What is important is that the girls really really want to do it and that you can see them take the initiative. I am so bored by this macho style where men are supposed to act tough and force their will. Why not have women inviting the men to action dirtier than they could imagine?

[Wotan29]

GIO scenes have become almost uninteresting to me. I see only mechanical sex, without pleasure, just to shoot as many scenes as possible. The original approach and the desire to add something new or make a really hot scene disappeared.

This!

[Wotan29]

All of his shoots are porn by the numbers, acrobatic postures, frankly, to me, stupid boring shots. The more awkward the position the better, it seems.

Just substitute one girl for another.

Just boring porn unless you are a novice in porn viewing.

Giorgio was once the gold standard, now he's barely tin foil and obviously doesn't care; just crank 'em out, give them the same old same old every time. There's enough new members to buy even the mediocre product he produces, right? No problem, laugh to the bank.

These days if you've seen one Giorgio, you've seen them all. Move on; there are far more ambitious producers and sites out there doing quality.

This!

[Wotan29]

It is arousing to think that what you see are the dirty fantasies of the girls! What is important is that the girls really really want to do it and that you can see them take the initiative. Why not have women inviting the men to action dirtier than they could imagine?

This!

But it won´t happen. Creativity, variety, passion and so many other things which make porn scenes epic ... all gone!
As long as enough undemanding users buy all those soulless assembly line production scenes nothing will change,

Two, maybe three good scenes a year are not enough.
I´m done with it. It´s time to move on.

[Wotan29]

GIO film quality is really good.
Anal sex quality is superb.
Piss quality looks ok to me.

Which drugs do you take? I want them, too...

[Starrio]

I disagree 100% that scenes should be different every time.

Personally, I absolutely love repetitive scenes that are always the exact same thing.

It is always great to know what to expect because you already know the quality, so you already know you will be getting something you like.

That way if there is a new girl for example you already know what she is getting, so you are excited because you want to see it getting done to her.

To me a big part of what makes a good scene is the variety of anal positions you get in it.

If the scene has a variety of positions like prone bone, standing positions, carrying the girl on the air, fucking her against the wall, giving her anal on a stool, or maybe fucking her on a chair, and a nice facial at the end, then the scene is already golden.

Obviously the most important thing is balls deep and pounding, so the more you get balls deep and pounding on a scene, then that's already everything that really matters.

Like this:



To me that's perfection ^^^ grabbing the girl and pounding balls deep, that's what is all about and the one thing that makes a scene completely worth it.

Once you have that, nothing else really matters.

To spice things up the only thing left to do is to pair the girl with different girls, and the number of guys.

For example in terms of GIO ideally every hot girl should get:

1. A 1 on 1 with Dylan Brown
2. A 2 BBC with maybe Oscar Batty and Yves Morgan
3. Then 3 BBC
4. Then 4 BBC
5. Then 5 BBC which I think they call Waka Waka

If they want to do 6 BBC and 7 BBC that's cool too.

That should be the bare minium for every hot girl.

That's what Sharon White, Alba Lala, Francesca Palma, etc., should all be getting.

Then pairing then with other girls with more BBC.

And if they want they can also do mixed scenes in between all of that.

That way you can get at least 10 or 15 scenes with every hot model.

I can be happy with just that

I don't think there is any need to be experimental.

Slapping the girls, deep throat, creampies, pissing on them, all that stuff is wonderful and I love it, but all that stuff is extra, what really matters is balls deep pounding and good positions.

So you can get the exact same scene over and over again with different girls and it will never be boring because you can never get tired of seeing a gorgeous girl getting fucked like that.

Although I do admit getting the girl to rim the guy is always cool, we can always use more of that too.

[dap-addict]

you may prefer content other than the sites I list, though many like those sites, but to suggest the camera and direction of LP is superior, worth copying

You maybe right actually.
Problem I have as a consumer is that I first need a certain threshold of content reached, and only than I want camerawork to be as good as in other studios - I never check however because they dont reach my threshold. Now not surprisingly my minimum threshold is DAP. Here only some Rocco and some Proxy scenes are actually better shot, but that is 5-10 scenes in 2018-21.

[Starrio]

One pose that is on the checklist of typical shots is the shot of the girl leaning up against a wall, whole body showing, and a line of guys, jerking off, waiting to use her. It looks like they are going to run an anal train on her--and that would be good, but they don't...the first guy will fuck her, and the short attention span camera will jump to a tight shot of her face, then her butt, then nipples to knees, and by that time the second guy comes in and starts moving her around, raising her leg, moving her so we don't see the train that was "promised." Train(?) over. No train. By the third guy the scene has changed completely.

That, I agree with 100%. Those positions we buy the scene for are way too short and need to be a lot longer so we can fully enjoy them.

You see something you like on the trailer and you get excited because you assume you are going to get a good amount of it, but then you end up not getting much of it, and it is very disappointing.

I hate to say this, but I believe the cowgirl DAP scenes take up too much of the time, and that's why we don't enjoy more of those other type of anal penetrations we hope to see.

I appreciate DAP, it is great, but at least to me balls deep is a bigger priority over it.

[dap-addict]

I hate to say this, but I believe the cowgirl DAP scenes take up too much of the time, and that's why we don't enjoy more of those other type of anal penetrations we hope to see.

cgDAP and also kocDAP actually takes up quite some time to shoot, this is why I keep this tutorial thread here. Cowgirl is an essential position, though. Cant be without it. But if they need 30min to get a cut 5min of cgDAP this deducts on other positions, also 1on1 anal ofc. You can't keep the girl and studs working for infinite over-hours...

Anal Train thing is instead a question of concept and directors care.
Lets maybe this done by some user pressure! This could be managed properly easily. Every girl working for GIO can actually do that. And if I get otto right its not to be in each film just from time to time. But yep, do it right please!

Could sb illustrate it with a gif or screens - what otto means?

[Starrio]

cgDAP and also kocDAP actually takes up quite some time to shoot, this is why I keep this tutorial thread here. Cowgirl is an essential position, though. Cant be without it. But if they need 30min to get a cut 5min of cgDAP this deducts on other positions, also 1on1 anal ofc. You can't keep the girl and studs working for infinite over-hours...

Anal Train thing is instead a question of concept and directors care.
Lets maybe this done by some user pressure! This could be managed properly easily. Every girl working for GIO can actually do that. And if I get otto right its not to be in each film just from time to time. But yep, do it right please!

Could sb illustrate it with a gif or screens - what otto means?

You are a great man for compromising on that comment.

I believe what he means is to see the train from afar as they show it on the trailer, and let it run for a while.

Obviously you cannot have it on every scene because it only works when you have more than two guys.

So it would look like this:

Scene 1. 1 on 1 with Mike or Dylan ( no train )

Scene 2. Black Pee with Oscar, Yves, or Tony ( no train )

Scene 3 Psycho Doctor? Mike, Gong, Dylan ( sometimes train)

Scene 4 Blacbusters 4 BBC ( always train )

Scene 5 Waka Waka 5 BBC ( always train )

Prone bone on all of them.

To me that would be ideal.

[Starrio]

I have to say context matters.

For gangbangs "train" matters, whether is the wall or the floor.

Just like cowgirl is essential for VR. These things do matter.

[DPraved]

Good comments here by otto1219 and others.

+1 on anal trains! It's such a hot concept that practically never gets done well here. I think a big issue is that most studios are too small to fit the train actually, which means that only GIO has a large enough area to attempt them, and he can get away with doing them poorly since there is no competition.

Besides the point about videography, I would also like to include styling in general. With NRX and more recently VK binging us gorgeous girls with clothes and make up that actually suit them, I feel that GIO typically overdoes it with makeup (by a lot!) while the Gonzo makeup often looks amateurish and with uninspired clothing to go with it. I hope competition will force all studios to improve on their respective weaknesses over time.

[DPraved]

Another great post otto1219. Stud changes should always be shown full figure, with the model's face showing as well.
I remember some Gonzo 10on1 scenes that might as well have been 3on1 one since you never saw anything other than 3 dicks and the girl. What's the point of gangbanging a girl if they won't show the rotations?

[Jocke]

For the leaning against the wall, let her brace herself against a wall, full body shot, and each guy in turn get in line and have a crack at her ass, but show the whole girl standing and all of her curves so we can see the full body effect of the pounding train.

I like when there is a second girl helping spreading the ass fully.

[DPraved]

For the leaning against the wall, let her brace herself against a wall, full body shot, and each guy in turn get in line and have a crack at her ass, but show the whole girl standing and all of her curves so we can see the full body effect of the pounding train.

I like when there is a second girl helping spreading the ass fully.

Nah, the second girl would only obstruct the view.