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Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:48 am
by Valo597
Giorgio, why are the girls not allowed to post photos before or after scenes anymore? I noticed this during the summer when many American girls went to shoot in Prague. I follow most of them on [spam] and noticed not many photos were being posted. Then I came across a tweet from Dee Williams were she was told not to post any pics due to a new LP policy. Why is this? Why would you wanna stop girls from promoting their scene with bts photos? There's many fans like me who love bts and love that girls post pics from their shoot. Syren De Mer in particular is great at it. She would post before and after shots from all her LP scenes. It's really hot when a performer posts shots of her sexy outfit or her makeup getting done and then after the scene with messed up hair and cum all over their face and chest. It's a shame there's no bts footage when we buy scenes and now you won't let the girls post photos either. Please change this policy and let girls post bts from their scenes. And please Giorgio can you give us a reply on this. Thanks

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Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:15 am
by tekaneo
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Want to know my own opinion? : [Censured] :cool:

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:33 am
by dap-addict
Noticed a general lack of work timeline based social media activity of girls, actors and directors.
Seems all meant to hide rather whats going on instead of creating traffic for new scenes.
Some girls have shown painfully much of porn shooting kitchen in their own bts videos, it might have provocated over-reactions from LP studios.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:28 am
by Giorgio Grandi
There are several reason about this.

The main issue is that as soon a model link me on any "social" (or just when she appears in my location), she gets hammered from people that wants to send her to work on different place.
Some model agrees and go to work in the days she supposes to be off, with the result that she doesnt have time to recover between my scenes and than she has problems on my stage. The following result is that I kick her out (just happened again this morning as a model was not performing at 100% on friday because she did a scene on thursday that was not planned. A scene with a total production cost of about 10k for fuck say). Without to count that I pay a trip to a model and its not correct Im the only one to pay for this if she goes to someone else

Other reason is that some model use material she recorded on my stage for commercial purpose (she use it on websites like clip4sale, etc) and this is not acceptable

There are other reason though

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:51 pm
by Angel Eyes
^ Finding people with a good work ethic is difficult no matter the business. Maturity level and loyalty are also key to a good business relationship. :(

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:49 pm
by Lictur33
Giorgio Grandi wrote:There are several reason about this.

The main issue is that as soon a model link me on any "social" (or just when she appears in my location), she gets hammered from people that wants to send her to work on different place.
Some model agrees and go to work in the days she supposes to be off, with the result that she doesnt have time to recover between my scenes and than she has problems on my stage. The following result is that I kick her out (just happened again this morning as a model was not performing at 100% on friday because she did a scene on thursday that was not planned. A scene with a total production cost of about 10% for fuck say). Without to count that I pay a trip to a model and its not correct Im the only one to pay for this if she goes to someone else

Other reason is that some model use material she recorded on my stage for commercial purpose (she use it on websites like clip4sale, etc) and this is not acceptable

There are other reason though

Why just not add a clause to the contract, that prohibits any other porn-activity in planned period of time?

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:09 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
Yea, we are going to do something like this.
I even know about foreigners male performers shooting in the day and doing escort in the night.. most of people know about it and no one care

Lictur33 wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:There are several reason about this.

The main issue is that as soon a model link me on any "social" (or just when she appears in my location), she gets hammered from people that wants to send her to work on different place.
Some model agrees and go to work in the days she supposes to be off, with the result that she doesnt have time to recover between my scenes and than she has problems on my stage. The following result is that I kick her out (just happened again this morning as a model was not performing at 100% on friday because she did a scene on thursday that was not planned. A scene with a total production cost of about 10% for fuck say). Without to count that I pay a trip to a model and its not correct Im the only one to pay for this if she goes to someone else

Other reason is that some model use material she recorded on my stage for commercial purpose (she use it on websites like clip4sale, etc) and this is not acceptable

There are other reason though

Why just not add a clause to the contract, that prohibits any other porn-activity in planned period of time?

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:21 pm
by dap-addict
Giorgio Grandi wrote:There are other reason though

Which ones?


Work ethics of porn performers suck more the less work is available. Fast money exploiting their own body and doing sup-par work your on set is a serious loyalty infringement. :mad:
I just hope fans will support you whoever you had to sack. Its absolutely no way to tolerate it in your position! I just wonder why you didnt sack her right on Friday already?

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:15 pm
by Valo597
Thank you Giorgio for addressing this. I totally understand your reasons for not allowing bts posts. It’s wrong for performers to side step your production to go shoot for someone else. As an alternative would it be possible for you to make a bts gallery for your shoots, maybe like 10 pictures for each scene? Or maybe have a bts gallery available for an extra ticket? I’d happily pay it. Or allow the girls to post when they get back home from shooting? It would really suck if we won’t see any bts anymore. Like I said in my first post, Syren De Mer was good at it. Next time you have her in your studio I’d love to see some before and after shots of the scenes. Please make it possible in some way that would satisfactory for the talent, you Giorgio, your studio, and us fans. Thanks

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:38 pm
by pastaga
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Other reason is that some model use material she recorded on my stage for commercial purpose (she use it on websites like clip4sale, etc) and this is not acceptable

There are other reason though


Sad, because I love BTS shots on Instagram, or Kira's Roller Vlogs on YouTube (she may get some money from it, but really, not so much...) As long as they don't show YOUR work, I don't really see the problem, even if it's in your walls and if that girls get a little extra money with it.

I hope you'll do more BTS videos showing the studio life, then. Because I'm gonna miss this stuff. And please show us some previews before the scenes releases.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:20 pm
by dap-addict
pastaga wrote:Sad, because I love BTS shots on Instagram, or Kira's Roller Vlogs on YouTube (she may get some money from it, but really, not so much...)

For Kira money wise it was marginal, but she got her foot into some by-projects and advertisement. All not well payed, rather just social activities.
I hope I am mistaken, but I get the feeling she's not getting booked anymore because she was too open in some of those Vlogs. :( :confused:
But basically her shooting had to be agreed - and also they were just so sweet and innocent in a way.
More add for GIO altogether, although she didnt reach the non-Russian masses.
I miss them and even more I miss her DAP-ing with the GIO crew! :( :( :(

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:58 pm
by pastaga
Sometimes I wonder if Giorgio remembers that they're no mainstream porn without girls...
If girls are forbidden to do anything while they're at his studio then they may get bored / not come back. Sometimes compromises have to be made. Or the lack of girls will be more and more severe...
Luckily he still has the paycheck power...

Another think is that girls who post on social network / [spam] / whatever, are usually more popular than unknown models. So they sell better.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:12 pm
by 2017sucks
Giorgio Grandi wrote:The main issue is that as soon a model link me on any "social" (or just when she appears in my location), she gets hammered from people that wants to send her to work on different place.
Well, nothing to worry about because at the end all depends from you. If you threat them like a human beings and not just money making machines for you, they not gonna run away anywhere. :) :cool:

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:37 am
by dap-addict
Its work ethics and loyalty isn't it.
Porn rookies are unable to assess their real capacities sometimes, they play with their health just for a few more $$$. They dont plan sustainable but live for the moment.
Giorgio has to handle all this. And of course sometimes something goes wrong.
But it has nothing to do with not treating them well at all, quite the opposite.
And than of course they also have to provide profits, its not charity! ;)

This all said Kira Rollers cute and funny GIO set vlogs can't have hurt much, thats a tolerance I'd expect to be granted to girls willing to work hard but also wanting to have some fun.
Correct me if I am wrong. I just dont see a problem here. She revealed nothing BUT bts and characters of some Russian girls living in the model apt with her.
It summarized what Olivia Devine recently wrote in her porn memories: Bts atmosphere is really crucial for good on-set porn work, too! And GIO was able to provide that, and hopefully still is, giving them the freedom of expression they need.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:33 pm
by Alan2008
Well if you gonna stop actors and actresses doing this, you need to have a "Coming soon" page somewhere to preview upcoming releases/ladies. :cool: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:45 pm
by kidloco2
We live in a fucked up world where you can't post a pic of your work without having coincidences.
Preventing girls to take a BTS pic and post it on THEIR social media is bullshit. Do you want to prevent
to advertise your site/work for free? Geeez, shooting in your own foot.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:38 pm
by dap-addict
Also dont get this new policy.
There have to be some rules what can be shown and what not, though.
Some inside porn kitchen stuff probably doesnt belong into the open. But thats all as far as restrictions are concerned. And than just really and only post after leaving LP/Prague.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:56 am
by tommysxc
Makes total sense to me. Given what GG likes to shoot, he's kind of stuck because he's generously trying to entice girls to even fly over, but then potentially gets destroyed by some other lunatic the day prior... Means GGs shoot isn't going to be what he or the girl intended... Yes this is the models fault, but given the industry and models trying to book all they can, this is no surprise.

Sure, back to back vanilla scenes are probably possible. Back to back dp or DAP for girls that aren't seasoned would be tough, surely.

I would still however love to see a bit of coming soon pics appear here, but the tease of Insta is not bad!

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:36 am
by Giorgio Grandi
Unfortunately it is the right choose.
Its not possible to bring a model from the other side of the word when as soon as "hookers" knows she is around, she gets hammered with any kind of job proposition even with the clear indication not to inform me.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:50 am
by dap-addict
But what about the Russian girls, Giorgio?
Seems they dont post pics and YouTube videos anymore, too?
Was there a problem with Kira Roller bc of that btw?
:confused:

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:22 am
by Valo597
Giorgio, I know the policy is for the girls not to post bts pics on their pages but with Syren De Mer now back in Prague to shoot for you, I hope you can make an exception. I love seeing teaser shots and before and after scene shots. Syren does this pretty well. I hope you can come to some agreement and let her post.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:14 pm
by Wotan29
I don´t give a shit for teaser BTS photos of any girl on her social media before the scene is released
And I can fully understand all the reasons Giorgio mentioned in this thread not to allow them anymore.

But what I want to see:
Some "official" BTS filmed footage as an addition in the released scene itself!

Really don´t understand, that BTS is dead since a year or so.
What do you think, guys?

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:07 pm
by lambok
Official BTS would be great. I love to watch what it loks like, I like to see this comparison with real world around.

I collected almost every BTS scene from 21sextury DPfanatics scenes and it is so interesting to watch whats going on before and after.

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:18 pm
by kidloco2
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Unfortunately it is the right choose.
Its not possible to bring a model from the other side of the word when as soon as "hookers" knows she is around, she gets hammered with any kind of job proposition even with the clear indication not to inform me.


Did it happen more than once or twice?

Re: Girls not allowed to bts photos anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:59 pm
by dap-addict
Here is some sort of official BTS of an older GIO shot and some special material with some GIO studs:
https://tv.idnes.cz/porno-je-muj-zivot/kolik-si-vydelavaji-pornoherci-v-cesku.A180223_123539_porno-je-muj-zivot_kuko