GIO going softer now?

[tommysxc]

I've really enjoyed seeing the forum regulars duke it out on this particular subject more than most others...

Personally I think it's amazing when LP captures the progression of a model well. I mean, as Magizi said, this scene has some nice hard sex. Yes there's no DP, but she does a stellar job I think. Seeing a model progress is a really nice thing and I think this seems to be a huge focus for GG... There are a couple of examples coming to mind; Ria, Belle, Monika, Anna, and most recently, Nicole Black. Gonzo looses this unless you're an avid LP fan, as the scene release order is still a bit 'loose'; at least for me anyway.

If a girl starts out with just anal, then goes to a hard as anything Mike C style fuck, I'd be happy. Giorgio frequently delivers more than this... Can't we acknowledge that he and the models put in so much effort? Id much rather see girls getting right into it than being uncomfortable any day... And yes, a girl getting right into an extreme DAP or DAP with piss and 10 guys is amazing, but a girl loving every moment of a DP is pretty damn sexy in my book

PS I admire all your efforts on this forum regularly!

[Iddaoeeok]

^^^^ good post

[VBT_2]

Sounds like you are focusing too much on the men

However, Magizi have a point.

DAP momemts of the scene itself focusing WAY too much on the men, so if scene have long DAP it's pretty much not for me.

[VBT_2]

Guess that means DAP is softer than DVP, since there are plenty of models here that can handle DAP and even TAP, that can't handle DVP.

This.

It's only statistics - could be useful, could make you wrong.

[VBT_2]

Soft in this terms are all scenes not including DAP.

I know what you mean.

Soft in my terms are all scenes not including Russian Susie Q in miniskirt getting fun with Ivana Sugar wearing white stockings for 20 minutes, and then recieving anal from some guy (or DP from 2). In well mantained green-fresh-painted-wall room.

Damn anti-porn trolls.

[dap-addict]

Guess that means DAP is softer than DVP, since there are plenty of models here that can handle DAP and even TAP, that can't handle DVP.

This.
It's only statistics - could be useful, could make you wrong.

At BB its 140 girls offering DP, 23 offering DAP and 13 offering DPP currently.
Not to asses ILBB question you have to check who is offering DPP and DP and who is offering DPP and DAP. DPP also isn't offered so often as its payed less than DAP. This is historic based as for a long time porn girls wanting to avoid anal and DP were offering DPP instead.
TAP btw is offered by o girls currently at BB I think.


for magizi: Yes, you are right, 100% balls deep DAP isn't possible. So what?! 90% in is possible, though. Hard and fast dapping with the anchor stud moving as well is possible, too. But you need good studs of course, not lazy fuckers just waiting for the end day pay. GIO shot some amazing DAP scenes in the past. I want him to shoot more of it and scout DAP-able girls.

[dap-addict]

Oh, shit, edit option gone:
Now, in order to assess the question of dpp vs. DAP vs. DP vs. TAP...

Most important however is 140 DP vs. 23 DAP currently at the leading Europe agency.
That shows a lot - and you can either accept it or reject according to your own user fetish.
Needless to say that most of these girls offering DAP are TWM/BB coop girls. Giorgio Grandi has so far concentrated on scouting DAP-able girls for Europorn and I do hope he sticks to that!

I wouldn't go so far as to call DP soft..
But DP is most definitely softer than DAP is

[dap-addict]

+ 1

to that gapelover statement!

[Sir Noel]

The whole premise of this argument is silly. Everything being equal DAP is harder than DP but everything else isn't always equal. I found some of the Chapman ball deep one on one scenes as hard as anything GG has done the last couple of years and they didn't even include DP!

[utopiaa]

Tastes can be so different. IF I would get to choose what kinda scenes would be here there would be lot less DP and DAP and more just hard anal fucking with lots of gaping and girls rimming them

[dap-addict]

Feb 13th:

Early alarm is better than silence and suddenly its too late I think. Even if I might over-react.
But todays Sciley Jam BBC DP only scene just poses some questions, sorry Giorgio.
She's performed 3 DAPs for you and they have shown she needs some further anal trying. Fair enough, but re-booking her you shoot DP only with her. Why that?

Talking about this scene: https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33502/balls_deep_with_scyley_jam_interracial_dp_creampie_swallow_gio561

Now DP only has some fringe tradition within GIO, the first Vinna Reed scene was DP only, but later she proceeded to DAP. You shot Lexy Star DP only and going from that light GIO intro she didnt perform DAP thus you didn't shoot her anymore. Both fair examples, but Sciley Jam is different. She performed DAP, you re-book her and shoot DP only!?

Really hope you dont plan to shoot some lines of GIO in a lighter way!
There is enough DP, also BBC DP!

Feb 13th:

I dont want to obsess the girl with DAP if it doesnt work properly so I will try to release some DP when the girl doesnt handle the DAP properly.
If sales wont be proper, of course I wont release DP anymore.

Just reminding everybody what we are discussing about!

[Giorgio Grandi]

Categorize a scene means to understand what audience you want go get. My idea was not to get DP or DAP audience, but interracial.
Rsult so far is decent (yes I know, its not up in the best seller of the month, bot for some reason I do not really need to explain you Im not unhappy).
Anyway, It can be done better... much better such kind of scene.

Btw, as you see Im releasing more content, to release only DAP content is almost utopia

[dap-addict]

Thanks for your 2nd answer, Giorgio!
This is what I reckoned upon a 2nd thought: IR and IR BBC above all. The more as IV shows here on LP that IR fans dont care much about sex acts as long as its IR really.
This is also why today I opened this thread: https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=17560

This said the problem with that Sciley Jam scene I have still is that you are not IV but GIO. You set very high benchmarks in porn and I was just surprised to see such a soft scene by her. Meanwhile I understand your motivation and her limitations. The scene will not a best seller but it should render all your investment easily I guess.
I also understand that not all of your scenes can be DAP. I already mentioned past non-DAP scenes, but those of Vinna Reed for instance lead somewhere harder, they were a start. Here it looked without inner logic, and I was afraid you might be planning a softer approach than in 2016/7 in some new scenes.

I do hope this isn't the case!

[kidloco2]

Yeah, there are tons of amazing hot anal scenes with just anal or DP.
On the other side, if a girl is obviously anally experienced enough to do DAP, then it's a 'must'.

When I know the girl would be capable of DAP scene then it just skyrockets the sexual excitement of such scene for me.
And as a gape lover myself, DAP mostly makes bigger gapes as well.

[hjohjole]

About DP. You can call it soft or you can call it hard if you want. I just call it garbage. Nothing ruins a scene quite as much for me as unnecessary pussy fucking that i constantly has to fast forward all the time while watching.
I am perfectly fine with Giorgio doing some scenes every now and then that does not focus so much on DAP. In fact i welcome that. But does the alternative really have to be DP? It wouldn't be a big problem if it where not for the fact that ALL other studios on LP makes this exact mini gangbang DP scene over and over again.

Before i would look forward to the Black Buster 1 on 1 scenes with Mike that we would get some times, but now when he is gone i guess we cant have that. I am not saying that the alternative necessary has to be more 1 on 1 scenes but pleas just something different. This scene with Scyley Jam would have been improved by a lot to me simply by taking out the DP and keep everything else as it is.

[dap-addict]

This might apply for general porn users but sure not LP. And lest GIO.
DP may be mixed into DAP features, the more if its a no holes barred format, but various LP users polls have shown that there is a growing demand for 100% anal, too.
Thus DAP and DP in some GIO films fine, only anal fine, no holes barred fine, 100% anal/DAP fine, but only DP rather not, and pussy only mixed with whatever other acts is no go here.

[albertoconr324]

Edited the OP into softer.
Also there is a question mark in the subject title in case somebody didn't notice.

I dont want GIO to get softer, I want him and his support director to keep the 2016/17 standards. But we can always discuss of course.
One thing is sure, though: DP is easier to perform than DAP.

come down mudafuckr faggot piece of shit

[albertoconr324]

This might apply for general porn users but sure not LP. And lest GIO.
DP may be mixed into DAP features, the more if its a no holes barred format, but various LP users polls have shown that there is a growing demand for 100% anal, too.
Thus DAP and DP in some GIO films fine, only anal fine, no holes barred fine, 100% anal/DAP fine, but only DP rather not, and pussy only mixed with whatever other acts is no go here.

u should be DAPed by some black dudes, hahaha

[dap-addict]

I dont want to obsess the girl with DAP if it doesnt work properly so I will try to release some DP when the girl doesnt handle the DAP properly.
If sales wont be proper, of course I wont release DP anymore.

Ok, meanwhile we know that Sciley Jam DP scene of yours didnt sell.

[dpconnoisseur1]

I dont want to obsess the girl with DAP if it doesnt work properly so I will try to release some DP when the girl doesnt handle the DAP properly.
If sales wont be proper, of course I wont release DP anymore.

Ok, meanwhile we know that Sciley Jam DP scene of yours didnt sell.

I don't get your point D-A calling out Sciley. So are you sounding and alarm because the one DP scene she has for Giorgio didn't sell well ? If so, then are we sounding an alarm because in that same month Sciley Jam aka Victoria J scene sold more than:

• 0% Pussy, Almost 100% DAP
  https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33509/ ... ial_gio544
• 0% Pussy
  https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33503/ ... low_gio458
• TDD -> DAP, TP, TAP
  https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33517/ ... low_gio573
• 0% Pussy, 100% Anal
  https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33532/ ... low_gio583

[dap-addict]

I dont want to obsess the girl with DAP if it doesnt work properly so I will try to release some DP when the girl doesnt handle the DAP properly.
If sales wont be proper, of course I wont release DP anymore.

Ok, meanwhile we know that Sciley Jam DP scene of yours didnt sell.

I don't get your point D-A calling out Sciley. So are you sounding and alarm because the one DP scene she has for Giorgio didn't sell well?

No alarm really, just checking the sales and drawing conclusions.
Btw, some of the girls like Arijna you mentioned above didn't get a 2nd change at GIO. Same idea, they didn't sell even doing DAP, and that's it.
Sciley aka Victoria J. has another potential but if she wanna perform for GIO its DAP she has to muster.
May sound harsh, but thats the truth and GIO610 shows she can do it.

[dap-addict]

Peace!
Was an early alarm reaction only.
Scyley Jam aka Vic. J. now is heading for Prague again this weekend and she'll muster DAP.
GIO plans to make her into one of his main stars in 2018. She has the potential and thats fine!
And that DP experiment worked out pretty fine too, thanks to IR.
White DP won't sell, though, I am sure of that.