Ticket Prices Out Of Control

[twistedvincent]

Why, Why, Why??
7-26-2015 Sperma Party - (Ultra Hot)Ria Sun - DAP Gangbang - 3.1 tickets
6-24-2017 Anal Endurance - (average hot)Sasha Zima DAP - 5.5 Tickets!!!

You're great Giorgio but WTF???

[Kriss1986]

Why, Why, Why??
7-26-2015 Sperma Party - (Ultra Hot)Ria Sun - DAP Gangbang - 3.1 tickets
6-24-2017 Anal Endurance - (average hot)Sasha Zima DAP - 5.5 Tickets!!!

You're great Giorgio but WTF???

It seems like some tendency and not only in Mr Gio productions...

[Giorgio Grandi]

I did not want to answer you, because I do not think this is a topic, but really Im too sick today.

I recently shot a scene with Ria very similar to her Sperma party from 2015, here few data for you:

Performers:
Model payout / agency fees +35%
Boys payout + 25%

Location:
The cost of location/accommodation and anything concerning this is increased from 2015 to 2016 of 50%, now in 2017, moving into a new facility we save probably 5-10% comparing to last year

Technology:
The Sperma Party has been shot with a camera that costed me about 4000usd, now I shoot with a camera camera that costed me over 20000usd. The post production requires more time and more expensive technology.

Organization:
In 2015 I did not have any fixed employee except the editor, now I have 3 + several "continuous collaborators"

General expenses:
I dont have a stat for 2017, but between 2015 and 2016 the general expenses of my company that produces content for LP increases of about 35%.

Then, another consideration (the more important). Be aware that from 2005 to 2015 the payout for models basically did not increase at all (if you compare a salary of a mason in Czech Republic increased of about 30% in that time). This brought to a decrease of the new model recruited in Cz.

As we run a model agency as well, we are trying to increase the payout for the girls as it should (and its hard). Even if Russia and Ukraine are the poorest, to recruit girls is more difficult in 2017 then 2015, there are no doubts about it. Even the cost of VISA is almost the double from 2015 and the not approved visa, border issues and all the bullshits concerning the trip organization are increase madly (I dont have a stat about this, but I think we talk about 150-200% more on monthly base.

I know what you are going to answer so I already answer you: to keep things as they were means dying. In 2017 I benefited from of a pool for of girls already performing, in the next years we had to invest somewhere else for keep a source of girls.

Other point: is very correct that payout of models increase as they get experience and they keep selling, its a simply market rule.

Few considerations:
We do not two squander money, if you consider that we have as car a citoen cactus bought in Sept. 2014 and a skoda octavia (bought used on Jan 2016)
Im sick since June 19, but Im forced to work taking Paracetamol every 4 hours for keep going because I need to shoot content in advance because I fucking want to go in holiday and spend time with my kids and keep releasing content.

Produce high quality porn cost and keep producing constantly cost more. Back in 2005 a DVD with 4 scenes as we produce not would cost smt like 40-50 euro, on LP still cost you the half.

[Giorgio Grandi]

I add another consideration about USA girls:
If you consider payout of model, agency fees, travel, accommodation the "total cost" of the performer increases over 200% (at least for me), but where the fuck you can find a scene like GIO399 or SZ1569 or SZ1623 (for nominate also smt from other studios)? No where.

LP producer for the most content that no one even try to emulate because a "pure" membership system wont be able to support the investment.

[magizi877]

woah $20,000 USD camera, that explains a lot.
That's more expensive than my 190 HP motorcycle.

I hope you get well soon Giorgio, don't skip sleeping time

[twistedvincent]

Well, thank you very much for your response Giorgio, I couldn't ask for a better response and now I understand a little better.

You really do seem to care about your fans.

I just hope the prices don't go up any higher or it will do nothing but encourage illegal downloading.

Thank you again and I hope you feel better.

[pastaga]

I don't really get how a super expensive camera requires more post work than the former one. Video quality was lready quite good.

For the rest sure I understand, this prices have been same for a long period (2012-2015 I'd said).
But if one day scenes sell way less then you'll have to reconsider prices... Personally my wage hasn't increased by 30% so I buy little less scenes than before.

[Giorgio Grandi]

4k requires higher performances hardware and longer rendering time.

I don't really get how a super expensive camera requires more post work than the former one. Video quality was lready quite good.

For the rest sure I understand, this prices have been same for a long period (2012-2015 I'd said).
But if one day scenes sell way less then you'll have to reconsider prices... Personally my wage hasn't increased by 30% so I buy little less scenes than before.

[xxx]

I'm not happy with the amount of content a membership can buy. I asking myself regularly how to allow people to get more scenes without destroying the system.

[dap-addict]

I recently shot a scene with Ria very similar to her Sperma party from 2015, here few data for you:

Performers:
Model payout / agency fees +35%
Boys payout + 25%

Location:
The cost of location/accommodation and anything concerning this is increased from 2015 to 2016 of 50%
(...)
Then, another consideration (the more important). Be aware that from 2005 to 2015 the payout for models basically did not increase at all (if you compare a salary of a mason in Czech Republic increased of about 30% in that time). This brought to a decrease of the new model recruited in Cz.

(...) Even if Russia and Ukraine are the poorest, to recruit girls is more difficult in 2017 then 2015, there are no doubts about it. Even the cost of VISA is almost the double from 2015 and the not approved visa, border issues and all the bullshits concerning the trip organization are increase madly (I dont have a stat about this, but I think we talk about 150-200% more on monthly base.
(...)

Thanks a lot for this openess, Giorgio!
Also need to add US models very high prices.
Now visa for Ukrainian girls got abolished. How much can be safed in cost here you think?
5-10%?
More%?

Higher competition between Ukrainian and Russian girls as well as Ukrainian and Czech girls might get the fees down a bit again, but as you point out it cant be a Czech mason gets 30% higher salery in just 2 years and a Czech porn model not.

I really do hope fans do understand that LP prices are more than fair!

[Kriss1986]

woah $20,000 USD camera, that explains a lot.
That's more expensive than my 190 HP motorcycle.

I hope you get well soon Giorgio, don't skip sleeping time

For $20 000 USD you can buy brand new 1299 Panigale, so yes indeed $20k for camera is a lot of bucks .

[Kriss1986]

I really do hope fans do understand that LP prices are more than fair!

Generally LP prices are fine, price quality ratio is more than satisfactory .

[twistedvincent]

I really do hope fans do understand that LP prices are more than fair!

I just get the feeling LP is going to CONTINUE raising their prices because they know we'll keep paying for the DAP content (I will not though).

Like I said before, higher prices will just encourage more piracy, sad but true.

[Sweep11]

I think we members have to appreciate that this is a niche market, relative to the porn market in general.
Niche in this case meaning the highest quality, the hottest girls, the hardest action and a high output of scenes.
With a smaller membership, paying members have to contribute a larger share towards the fixed costs of the production compared to bigger (& vastly inferior) companies like EA.
LP is a premium product, not a high volume commodity.

I read that many members are worried that LP might be tempted to go more mainstream/vanilla in order to increase membership.
Perhaps creating multiple edits of each scene and a 'choose your strength' price system could work (similar to the wet/dry versions gg did for a few scenes)?
1. Saucy - vag only, 1 on 1, lesbian
2. Spicy - vag, anal, 2 on 1,
3. Smoking - anal, dp, 3 on 1
4. Flaming hot - dap, gangbang, sperma
5. Inferno - tp, fisting, pissing, sperma, manhandle

Scenes would be priced according to strength, higher volume sales of low strength (more mainstream) scenes offsetting more fixed costs, keeping prices reasonable for harder versions.
A side benefit might be less complaining from pro/anti pissers, dappers, 0% pussiers...

Clearly I have no clue:
- how much extra work it would be in editing
- how much more complex the filming might be
- the complexity in changing the pricing system (which I realise is already varying partly with sex acts included)
- cost to adapt the website
- time needed to increase membership to make it a viable model

Personally free time available to watch, not cost, is the factor limiting how many scenes I buy.
I only offer my thoughts because I'm passionate that the ultimate porn site must survive and flourish.
And I fully support increasing the wages of the girls who are the stars of this business and should be paid as such.

respectfully

[twistedvincent]

^ The only problem with your post, and I'm not trying to be a dick but LP is not a niche market at all.

As a matter of fact legalporno is the LARGEST most profitable site in Europe.

[kidloco2]

I'm not happy with the amount of content a membership can buy. I asking myself regularly how to allow people to get more scenes without destroying the system.

I think you need another one or two studios which will release daily somewhat cheaper scenes than Gonzo or GG yet still qualifying for LP standards.
Somebody who's willing to build his portfolio or possibly a career and is not so financialy demanding.

[kidloco2]

^something like FM studio but the concept might be completely different.

[Kriss1986]

I'm not happy with the amount of content a membership can buy. I asking myself regularly how to allow people to get more scenes without destroying the system.

I think you need another one or two studios which will release daily somewhat cheaper scenes than Gonzo or GG yet still qualifying for LP standards.
Somebody who's willing to build his portfolio or possibly a career and is not so financialy demanding.

In my opinion even two "normal" studios could change situation and save some $$. Models could be booked for more scenes, which also means lower costs of trip at the end, potential visa etc.

It is almost impossible to provide cheaper scenes with the same quality as GG or Gonzo and let's face it most members get used to LP high standards and probably will not buy weaker and softer videos.

[Giorgio Grandi]

It is almost impossible to provide cheaper scenes with the same quality as GG or Gonzo and let's face it most members get used to LP high standards and probably will not buy weaker and softer videos.

This

[Sweep11]

^ The only problem with your post, and I'm not trying to be a dick but LP is not a niche market at all.

As a matter of fact legalporno is the LARGEST most profitable site in Europe.

Txs for the insight TW
I meant niche more in the sense of content and quality. This is very hardcore stuff compared to the average site.
I admit, I didn't realise it was the largest in Europe (by what measure btw, visits or actual sales?) but on the global scale that may still make it a relatively small player?

If that was the only problem with my post, does that mean you agree the rest in principle?
As gg says, it can't be made at this quality any cheaper so the other option is to increase sales to reduce the per unit cost

As an example, I'm not a big fan of dap, tp or fisting. There are a few scenes where I like the girl, like the style of the scene but skip it entirely because I know 50% or more of the content isn't to my taste.
If I could buy a softer version of the scene for a lower cost, I probably would.
Aside from editing, there would be no/few additional costs for that sale.
I can imagine there are many others with softer tastes than me that are also put off by the really hard stuff and go elsewhere.

Adding new studios adds capacity, yes. But also adds overheads.
My proposed model potentially gets more sales for roughly the same cost, without lowering quality or diluting the hardcore nature of the scenes.

[kidloco2]

It is almost impossible to provide cheaper scenes with the same quality as GG or Gonzo and let's face it most members get used to LP high standards and probably will not buy weaker and softer videos.

This

Of course it's possible, not much cheaper, but still cheaper (I think by 20-40% depending on the scene). Obviously actors and agency commision will cost the same, but I would save on all other costs like location, equipment, editor and use some obvious tricks to make more money out of one shoot).
Sure those scenes won't be on the top list probably, but I can assure you the quality of sex will be the same as GG or Gonzo. It's not money dependent, it's about who shoots it and how.

[kidloco2]

woah $20,000 USD camera, that explains a lot.
That's more expensive than my 190 HP motorcycle.

I hope you get well soon Giorgio, don't skip sleeping time

lol, sure LP will cover up that 20+k for the camera, but it will be just ridiculous to think it's necessary to do the job.

[tekaneo]

@Kidloco

If you want a cheaper site, get EA/JJ membership. At least ME im not going to buy nothing from these new studios you want to add. Im looking for the highest quality and EA/JJ are SO SOFT compared to LP. Im sorry but if LP add these kind of studios will be a fiasco (i really dont know why SAL studio is part of LP site because this is not the LP quality stantard).

[dap-addict]

It is almost impossible to provide cheaper scenes with the same quality as GG or Gonzo and let's face it most members get used to LP high standards and probably will not buy weaker and softer videos.

This

Of course it's possible, not much cheaper, but still cheaper (I think by 20-40% depending on the scene). Obviously actors and agency commision will cost the same, but I would save on all other costs like location, equipment, editor and use some obvious tricks to make more money out of one shoot).
Sure those scenes won't be on the top list probably, but I can assure you the quality of sex will be the same as GG or Gonzo. It's not money dependent, it's about who shoots it and how.

Dont see this 40% really.
You can cut costs shooting 2on1 only and useing a cheaper camera.
You can shoot scenes faster and thus more scenes per day, but quality will suffer a lot.
You may book cheaper girls, like the new Ukrainian talents flocking in, but that gives you max. 20% saveings.

If you add the safeings of 3 studs not booked, than maybe its one third cheaper again. But would it really sell?
I think most LP users got used to 3 to 7 studs per girl.

Other very valid point is Kriss suggestion of giving the girls more work in Prague, share them between more studios, also new ones, and thus cut/share their travel and accommodation investment.


Btw, I wrote about before, but IMHO US imports are a pandora box for the Prague actress fees.

[tekaneo]

An easy example: I want a Ferrari but i dont have money to buy it. Im not going to to go to Italy to complain to Ferrari president why their cars are so expensive and ask them if they can lower the price so that I can buy it.

I really dont know that this is a company, a company to make money with some standards for years. There are other sites with a lower price. I really dont know why ppl are complaning about what a company does. If you cant buy the scenes this is a company problem is YOUR problem, work more, make more money so you can buy all what you want.

Really this is a serious thread? really?

[dap-addict]

As I said the LP prices are really fair and transparent according to investment done.
At the same time the cost explosion has to be contended if possible - as well as for the producers as the users!
First actors/actress/agency fees mustnt get out of hand since they do make the big part of each scene investment.
EU is not US and Europorn companies cannot pay US rates!
Studios shouldnt jeopardize going rates by importing expensive US girls driving up local prices, but rather tap new East European talent pools, places where 100$ is worth much more than in Prague. And its not about paying unfair prices, but the opposite. These lovely girls doing all that DAP for us shall earn good money! But not at the price of an americanisation of Europorn!

[dap-addict]

I'm not happy with the amount of content a membership can buy. I asking myself regularly how to allow people to get more scenes without destroying the system.

Fair idea, but how to do it without too much losses for LP?
60tkts for the 3-month subscription would be nice for instance. 120-Ticket recharge st the same price level. Scene prices staying basically the same. But would this work also for you?

[jerrybb]

Well said Giorgio. Life is expensive these days especially for the ones like us who still have to make money.
Your a legend many thanks.

[dap-addict]

Im sick since June 19, but Im forced to work taking Paracetamol every 4 hours for keep going because I need to shoot content in advance because I fucking want to go in holiday and spend time with my kids and keep releasing content.

Didnt read that properly until now, sorry, Giorgio! I do hope you are well again today! All the best!
There is nothing I wish you more now than a few weeks of quiet holidays with your beloved family, your wife and two sons!

Btw, its also a hint for those who think porn producers swim in money and just do it as a hobby.

[Kriss1986]

An easy example: I want a Ferrari but i dont have money to buy it. Im not going to to go to Italy to complain to Ferrari president why their cars are so expensive and ask them if they can lower the price so that I can buy it.

I really dont know that this is a company, a company to make money with some standards for years. There are other sites with a lower price. I really dont know why ppl are complaning about what a company does. If you cant buy the scenes this is a company problem is YOUR problem, work more, make more money so you can buy all what you want.

Really this is a serious thread? really?

With Ferrari is different story. They don't need ask people "would you like to buy our cars", situation is opposite, customers have to ask them "please I have money, be so kind and let me buy one of your cars". LP is leader on the market and people will buy their videos because of quality, even if price will increase. For me the quality of content, girls, camera working is always on first place. Generally there is no need to complain.

[Kriss1986]

Dont see this 40% really.
You can cut costs shooting 2on1 only and useing a cheaper camera.
You can shoot scenes faster and thus more scenes per day, but quality will suffer a lot.
You may book cheaper girls, like the new Ukrainian talents flocking in, but that gives you max. 20% saveings.

If you add the safeings of 3 studs not booked, than maybe its one third cheaper again. But would it really sell?
I think most LP users got used to 3 to 7 studs per girl.

Other very valid point is Kriss suggestion of giving the girls more work in Prague, share them between more studios, also new ones, and thus cut/share their travel and accommodation investment.


Btw, I wrote about before, but IMHO US imports are a pandora box for the Prague actress fees.

40% is some kind of fantasy. As Dap-a wrote 5% maybe 10% is max, but the question is - is it really worth to combine? I will still claim that the best option would be create two normal studios, plus some additional new lines of videos and start sharing models, record 10 scenes with particular girl instead of 3. In longer period it will cut some costs for studios and then maybe we will also get scenes 0.5 - 1tkt cheaper.

About US imports you know my opinion, it could be managed in different way.

[Kriss1986]

As I said the LP prices are really fair and transparent according to investment done.
At the same time the cost explosion has to be contended if possible - as well as for the producers as the users!
First actors/actress/agency fees mustnt get out of hand since they do make the big part of each scene investment.
EU is not US and Europorn companies cannot pay US rates!
Studios shouldnt jeopardize going rates by importing expensive US girls driving up local prices, but rather tap new East European talent pools, places where 100$ is worth much more than in Prague. And its not about paying unfair prices, but the opposite. These lovely girls doing all that DAP for us shall earn good money! But not at the price of an americanisation of Europorn!

Well I don't understand this whole thread. From one side customers demand high quality scenes, the prettiest actresses, the best action inc. gangbang, DAP, DPP, pissing etc., lately also some folks are asking for 4k resolution. For god's sake all of it consumes a lot of $$ and then LP want to recoup invested money and earn, it's normal biz like many others!

[Kriss1986]

Im sick since June 19, but Im forced to work taking Paracetamol every 4 hours for keep going because I need to shoot content in advance because I fucking want to go in holiday and spend time with my kids and keep releasing content.

Didnt read that properly until now, sorry, Giorgio! I do hope you are well again today! All the best!
There is nothing I wish you more now than a few weeks of quiet holidays with your beloved family, your wife and two sons!

Btw, its also a hint for those who think porn producers swim in money and just do it as a hobby.

It's bullshit and myth. This job has pros and cons, like most of other professions. Most of simply watchers don't see or don't want to see inconveniences...

[dpconnoisseur1]

EU is not US and Europorn companies cannot pay US rates!
Studios shouldnt jeopardize going rates by importing expensive US girls driving up local prices, but rather tap new East European talent pools, places where 100$ is worth much more than in Prague. And its not about paying unfair prices, but the opposite. These lovely girls doing all that DAP for us shall earn good money! But not at the price of an americanisation of Europorn!

Sorry but just a load of bullshit! Always trying to find the boogeyman in the American talent but this price creep started before American talent started to show up more frequently in Europe. So I say try again. Just like the price hike is being attributed to more expensive equipment USA model price can be attributed to travel expenses. So how does that drive up price for local models? If it does that actually means the local models would make substantially more than USA models and XXX wouldn't be the shrewd businessman we think he is. Example if I paid local talent $500 and US talent $1500 because the added expenses for airfare, lodging and food(averages out to $1000 more on top scene cost). So now because I'm not a smart businessman I decide to pay local talent $1,500 for the same scene without those additional expenses because that is what I pay the US talent that is ridiculous as I'm paying local talent a drastically higher rate for the same scene. All involved should already know these things because they all travel at some point. Now if the pay difference is based on star power and attracting more customers that is different subject altogether. I follow models doing naughty things not just exclusively sex acts. So for a model like Arwen Gold give her whatever she wants I'm happy to pay for the added cost (for beauty, personality and performance) Of course there are many others that meet this criteria but I wanted to list one that is no longer performing for LP

Now If we are going to blame it on the equipment purchase yes some of that cost should be passed on to the consumer but shouldn't that decision have been based on demand for 4K content like how other decisions are being made like the focus mainly on DAP because of demand. Every decision in LP so far seems to have been driven by demand and I wonder if there really is a demand for such an expensive investment in equipment. I'm still downloading only 720P and maybe by the time I decide to download 4K content the scenes will be free so I'm subsidizing what I assume is a very small amount of members crying out for 4K content. Why not pass the price on to them and see how many actually download a 4K scene. This increase in some cases has doubled the ticket price for no apparent reason and if the main reason is really the directors decision to upgrade his equipment then wow what a hike to paying customers that could care less about 4K scenes.

IMO this hike is driving paying customers away leaving just the jaded ones that demand piss, 100% dap, prolapse and puke porn. As a paying customer that can afford to buy every scene released daily if all the content actually appealed to me I have the right to complain just as LP has the right to do whatever they feel is best for their bottom line. I'm making my comment known in the a very relevant thread so that LP directors and management know that the prices are getting pretty steep often for the same things that we used to buy. Less than 50% of the content that is being released actually appeal to me now and its price has been hiked so I'm disappointed as currently no other company exist like LP for frequency of content I want to consume. Just like when I left Brazzers because I don't want to subsidize the pussy only members I will in time continue to reduce my spending for content that focus more on more to jaded consumers until eventually finding another place to spend my money.

IMHO LP was great because it focused on beautiful models doing naughty things with great quality and frequency (I know beauty in eye of the beholder). Now I can see what some of the former models have mentioned of LP catering more to extreme fetishes than the models with the beauty ratio being reversed. So now LP focuses less on model beauty and more on extreme acts. Not the formula that first brought me to LP but with its growth has attracted members more into extreme content than the models. What makes LP hard to leave is the quantity of fetish content I like that it puts out. In the US, you have to wait for a scenes like GIO294, SZ1623 or sz1694 once a year and I'm spoiled because I get these scenes often monthly sometimes even weekly. These scenes IMO would definitely win scene of the year or at least be finalist if it was produced in the US. I don't know why LP continues to push the extreme envelope for no apparent reason. I remember when Prolapse used to be considered a medical accident that needed to be treated immediately so it doesn't get worse but now members and directors want to specifically shoot it, WTF

Oh well, my rant is over!

Giorgio, thanks for always attempting to interact with the fans and I hope you get better soon!

[dap-addict]

EU is not US and Europorn companies cannot pay US rates!
Studios shouldnt jeopardize going rates by importing expensive US girls driving up local prices, but rather tap new East European talent pools, places where 100$ is worth much more than in Prague. And its not about paying unfair prices, but the opposite. These lovely girls doing all that DAP for us shall earn good money! But not at the price of an americanisation of Europorn!

Sorry but just a load of bullshit! Always trying to find the boogeyman in the American talent but this price creep started before American talent started to show up more frequently in Europe. So I say try again. Just like the price hike is being attributed to more expensive equipment USA model price can be attributed to travel expenses. So how does that drive up price for local models?

dpc, ever heard something about sex act based going rates?
And different rates in different places?
Thus LA inst Prague isnt Bp!

Nothing to do with travel costs! Thea are payed seperately or refunded of course. But thats a different pair of shoes.

Now ever heard of competition and price pressure?
Or if you had read Giorgio Grandi attentively you'd found a first clue already. If a Czech masons payment rose 30% in 2 years, than also other professions, including porn models ask higher prices. Now if Casey Calvert or any US girl earns her LP going rate in Prague or even more, that for sure sets also some pressure on the going rates for porn acts in Prague - even if the US girls wouldnt get payed directly but via their agency for instance. Girls on set talk to each other, you know.

[dpconnoisseur1]

^So what you saying is you are actually making an assumption of what a US vs Prague vs Budapest vs Germany vs France vs England rate are ? So just like I don't know you don't either but since you have a preference for European models only naturally you assume the US rate is the cause of all that is wrong with the pricing without having any concrete proof just assumptions and preferences. Also not taking into consideration the draw in consumer that the model may bring surpassing the additional cost to have her on LP instead of a unknown local talent

Which is my point, bullshit! Not everything is about DAP....

[dap-addict]

dpc, its common knowledge that going rates are sex act based and differ from place to place.
If you dig really deep you find also figures.
Also I didnt claim booking much demanded US girls didnt pay for LP, all I said is that importing them to Prague an paying LA prices or even higher ones here does put the local going rates under pressure.

Btw, its a slight other case, but you really never heard what Rocco paying 1000$ for anal in Piter 10 years ago did to the local going rates? Ok, he payed it to the most demanded models, but other girls started askng the same. Its just natural, no?

[dpconnoisseur1]

Yes, it is natural to want more in life but just asking for it doesn't mean you are going to get it. I vehemently disagree because what your are implying is that BMW 3 series should cost the same price of a BMW i8 because it is a car. That does not make any sense and no one can do business if that was reality. So I don't get your Rocco point and don't concede it.

Models get paid based on their physical attributes and ability to sell scenes. Anyone can demand anything in this world it doesn't mean they will get it. This imaginary pressure is in your mind. The common knowledge you speak of is not exclusively related to the sex act but to the cost of living and perceived value of the model to sell scenes! If you didn't know cost of doing business in the US also varies drastically based on the state you live in because of the cost of living there.

[drevokocur66]

IMO this hike is driving paying customers away leaving just the jaded ones that demand piss, 100% dap, prolapse and puke porn. As a paying customer that can afford to buy every scene released daily if all the content actually appealed to me I have the right to complain just as LP has the right to do whatever they feel is best for their bottom line. I'm making my comment known in the a very relevant thread so that LP directors and management know that the prices are getting pretty steep often for the same things that we used to buy. Less than 50% of the content that is being released actually appeal to me now and its price has been hiked so I'm disappointed as currently no other company exist like LP for frequency of content I want to consume. Just like when I left Brazzers because I don't want to subsidize the pussy only members I will in time continue to reduce my spending for content that focus more on more to jaded consumers until eventually finding another place to spend my money.

IMHO LP was great because it focused on beautiful models doing naughty things with great quality and frequency (I know beauty in eye of the beholder). Now I can see what some of the former models have mentioned of LP catering more to extreme fetishes than the models with the beauty ratio being reversed. So now LP focuses less on model beauty and more on extreme acts. Not the formula that first brought me to LP but with its growth has attracted members more into extreme content than the models. What makes LP hard to leave is the quantity of fetish content I like that it puts out. In the US, you have to wait for a scenes like GIO294, SZ1623 or sz1694 once a year and I'm spoiled because I get these scenes often monthly sometimes even weekly. These scenes IMO would definitely win scene of the year or at least be finalist if it was produced in the US. I don't know why LP continues to push the extreme envelope for no apparent reason. I remember when Prolapse used to be considered a medical accident that needed to be treated immediately so it doesn't get worse but now members and directors want to specifically shoot it, WTF

Amen.

Sure, everyone driving slower than you is an idiot, and everyone driving faster than you is a maniac. Narcissism 101.

[kidloco2]

Dont see this 40% really.

Easily a scene for 3-3.5 TKT, look, you guys talk here about actors' rates, but IMHO savings lies in making a better production value out of what you actually have being able to produce scenes for less money. Salaries remain the same (actually they went up, good for them).

The highest impact on production value have actors, then sex action and production team skills. All other things
can be to shrunken to absolutely bare minimum spending. And I can 100% assure you, this is absolutely possible.

What I'm talking about is LP to add one or two new studios that can make these kind of savings while maintaining LP quality.

You know what? Porn was always somewhat expensive hobby, but everytime only until a new platform came out on the market, which ultimately dropped prices for the amount of content you got.
Probably time will tell, but it was always like that (paper mags -> VHS -> DVD -> VoD -> Monthly membs-> Flatrates -> PPV/Lifetime downloads/unlimited streaming -> ??? )